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**Al**Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
speaking about trailers [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo]X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - Official Trailer (2014)[/url] :) you are giving me reason to go to see Thor.. (fingers crossed).
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
@durp004 "Story-wise" is a very vague term to point out criticism. What about the stories? Are they good? Are they bad? That's fairly subjective in most circles-- Besides in this particular genre it's not so much about how one perceives the story's merit, but rather how it's executed. Applying Western criticism to Eastern cinema is like using a car engine to replace an airplane turbine. In all my studies of Japanese cinema there are few places that the two intersect so the comparisons of quality need to be re-adjusted. That said, GINO's story might have been worthwhile had the characters been remotely likable and capable of delivering decent performances. As it stands, only Jean Reno was the enjoyable character in the film. The effects were good, but that was expected by 1998. (Other than the monster changing sizes throughout the movie...) I'm not going to compare Western effects to Tokusatsu, because they both aim to do different things. I think the only thing misunderstood about GINO is not that it's a terrible movie, but why it's a terrible movie. Critically it's offputting, yes, but monster wise? It might've been more acceptable if it weren't called Godzilla, but Devlin and Emmerich missed the mark. They were arrogant enough to believe their interpretation would be superior and the lack of respect for the series insured that nothing but the name would be included. It goes beyond not including his atomic ray and making him weak. The creature didn't posses any majestic stature-- There was no terror, like in some movies and no awe like in other Godzilla incarnations. The mythology and metaphors were absent and the special effects took center stage. It made no effort to look at what the character stood for during any era of the series. It was a flat imitation of creature features that had come before and an example of Hollywood at its most crude. And perhaps an equal sin, if we look at the bulk of the Godzilla series: It just wasn't a lot of fun.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat do you hope to see if a 2014 Godzilla trailer was shown on 11-3-13?
The WIP trailer was already leaked. It was taken down pretty damn quick, and the quality was terrible. Or at the very least, it looked like an official trailer, but could have been a fake, the reason it'd get taken down is because the 2012 test footage was inter-spliced with it. I dunno, but I seriously wouldn't put any money down for a trailer to be shown on Nov. 3. I'd like to see what the people at SDCC 2013 had seen.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
On November 3rd, the Godzilla special effects person is gonna be at the Comikaze thing. They might just show the people who show up some of the footage with special effects in it, maybe even show us what the kaiju actually look like. I dunno. But I really doubt that they're going to release a trailer on Nov. 3. Just because it's Godzilla's "birthday", doesn't mean that they have to do anything on that day. I also don't think that Thor: The Dark World will promote Godzilla. I really only see Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug doing any sort of promotion before 2014. I'm pretty sure we'll see a trailer in 300: Rise of an Empire, as it's a Legendary movie, and it's a couple months earlier than Godzilla. Like Kaijusaurus has said, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a trailer this early.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
Ghidorah has only came close to killing Godzilla once, that I'm aware of, and that was in Final Wars. MechaGodzilla has came close to, or has, killed him in every one of his appearances. Even in the 90's movie, Godzilla versus King Ghidorah, Godzilla didn't have too much of a problem with King Ghidorah, rather it was Mecha King Ghidorah. My only reason I think MechaGodzilla, or a giant machine in general, should be the endgame is that man created some weapons that they're positive will kill Godzilla, but tanks and airplanes wouldn't be considered reliable anymore because of how easily destroyed they are.. and nuclear missile launch sites (as far as I'm aware) can't hit a moving target. Ghidorah seems more like a final monster to use, again on the assumption Legendary uses Toho monsters, but not the necessarily the endgame. I'd put MechaGodzilla and Ghidorah in the same movie. Godzilla is defending his stomping grounds that Ghidorah has invaded, while MechaGodzilla defends the planet from both. I see a sort of loose alliance between MechaGodzilla and Godzilla to destroy Ghidorah (so that it makes Ghidorah look even more powerful), but quickly after that, MechaGodzilla and Godzilla are at each others throats again, with MechaG coming out on top in the end, and maybe a post credit scene that suggests that Godzilla may or may not be alive (to avoid fanboys from getting upset at Godzilla being killed).
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumMutos are scorpions?
I came across an article saying that the 2012 monster was maybe inspired by scientific research done in Japan on how the radiation was affected the ecosystem, specifically silkworms. However, the monster designs have been updated since 2012. 2013 describes the new monster(s) as being different than the 2012 test footage.
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KaijusaurusGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
You guys shouldn't have your hopes high for the trailer to be released on November 3rd. It's all just fan speculation. Don't get mad if the trailer isn't released on that day. And don't say I didn't warn you.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Anchorman 2 is a rated R comedy and the 300 prequel will be a rated R gore fest. Those movies will never in hell be advertised at a Marvel movie. Robocop, yes. That's 5 trailer slots, the only other movie left is Godzilla. The one thing that begs the question is, will there be a 6th.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Even if going for the same demographic a Robocop remake, the sequel to 300, and Anchorman 2 are all coming out and all have earlier release dates than Godzilla. There are plenty of movies who would more than likely take the spot in the preview section for a big movie like Thor 2, and trust me all those companies want a big movie to release trailers on I would be highly surprised to see Godzilla take it over the others.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Well if there's around 3 other previews then Godzilla is one of them. At big hit movies you wanna show about the same demographic at your movie, thus the superhero movies being advertised at a superhero movie. The only movie besides Marvel ones I can think of that Thor will advertise is the 2nd Hobbit. I still say expect Godzilla, releasing him at Thor would get people interested enough for them to start showing the trailer at other movies like Enders Game and the Hobbit.
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FordBrodyLover99Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
Godzilla`s Revenge. Yeah, alot of people have already mentioned it, but i wanna give my own statement. This was one i had a hard time finding and first here in 2013 i manage to get it and watch it. I had expected to litteraly HATE the movie. And you know what? I loved it. Heck, even the kid character was great, and i usually hate them. The turmoil of his shyness and his everyday life seems legit. This was a great idea, the problem is most people saw it as a traditionel Godzilla movie, and as that it sucks. But it isnt. Its an interestinmg look into the mind of a little kid, a very imaginative kid which just makes these ideas so great. And to everyone who sees the 98 movie as misunderstood, dont worry, it isnt. We understand it. We understand that its 100 % crap.
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Durp004Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
To be fair the same could be said for most Godzilla movies if you looked at them as a critic rather than as a fan. Story wise was the 98 version worse than some of the toho 1s? God no; effects wise it was fine for the time. Characters weren't any more memorable or forgettable than most. I mean stacking it up against the best Godzilla movies it crumbles, but against the worst it holds it ground better than most fan would like to admit.
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FordBrodyLover99Godzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla cartoon series discussion
Okay, i know ive posted here already, but i have thought about the idea. If youre willing to look by the monstrous disaster Godzilla causes you COULD have a show. But there is stuff they should remember; No teens. Oh god, no teens. Kids are okay, but no teens. They find their way to ruin so much. Godzilla shouldnt be some idiots pet like a certain other giant monster cartoon did it. A team of people who simply follow and study him, like the team from Godzilla 2000 would be great. If they could follow these rules and look past what i stated above then a cartoon MIGHT work, its not certain. We have yet to see a good Godzilla animated series.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
There's a vast gulf of things that are awful about GINO outside of it being an awful example of what a Godzilla movie should be and I'm not sure I have the patience or time to criticize all of it...
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
I don't think there will be a trailer at Thor. If anything the Marvel movies take away that chance. At the average movie I go to see there are roughly 5 trailers, and with marvel movies occupying 3 of these spots it makes it even less likely for Godzilla to appear. Sure in terms of release date he's close to those movies, but marvel Movies ALWAYS show marvel movies before every1 else, and that leaves roughly 2 to 3 spots after them up for grabs. Unfortunately there are plenty of big name movies coming out between Thor and Godzilla who are likely to take these spots over the big guy. Could we see the trailer? Sure but i think the Marvel movies previews are just a much evidence we won't as we will.
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumMechagodzilla in the sequel!
On a fan boy level, I want the sequel to have Mecha G, King Ghidorah, and several other Toho Kaiju, but from a more realistic standpoint, I'd guess Mecha G could only appear in a sequel if enough time passes between movies, or if the first one isn't as "dark and realistic" as we're being led to believe. That being said, I wouldn't mind if they make another original kaiju for a sequel, but I would be extremely disappointed if there isn't a Toho one in it as well. Obviously redesigned to fit the theme and style of the movie, but still recognizable. And no, I don't think it would come across as Legendary/ WB/ Gareth/ whoever shamelessly trying to copy what Toho has done, but rather be more like honoring them. Also, you can't tell me that if you were in the theaters opening night and you see your favorite villain show up that you wouldn't be super excited. Heck, I get teary-eyed just thinking of the possibility of Destroyah happening
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
I read it but you didn't make it clear that you're idea was what had to be discussed, especially when you said, only about 10% of your idea would be used, indicating you thought it could be done but didn't have to include your idea almost at all.
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla Teaser in Minecraft Style
Looks Like WB has actually taken this down for copyright issues! I can't believe it. I mean, how close could it have possibly been that they would feel the need to flag it? I've seen animated versions that haven't been pulled, so why was this?
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
I definitely think that your idea seems possible, and i do like it, i have to disagree with the Mecha Godzilla as the end game/last movie enemy. I would have to assume that Ghidorah would be the last enemy Godzilla faces, assuming that Legendary wants to use Toho monsters. He's basically Godzilla's arch enemy, and almost always takes more than just Godzilla to take him down. I mean, Mecha Godzilla is almost, if not more iconic than Ghidorah, but I just feel like Ghidorah is more of a final villain. But that's just my opinion.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
Did you even read the post? Or did you just read the title and skip right to the comment section I'm not saying you're wrong. Not at all. It just seems like that's the only thing people on this site post whenever Monster Island is brought up. Almost word for word. This post was basically me asking if you think my idea would work. Not if the preconceptions of a monster island movie could work. You seem to be answering the latter, and without any mention of the content within my post, it's easy to assume you just skipped to the comment section after reading the words "monster island". I'm not saying you did, I'm just saying that's what it looks like. (gah, it's so hard for me to not come across as an asshole, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm trying to be a jerk)
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Durp004Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
The 98 Godzilla of course. I mean by monster movie standards to leagues ahead of most, and even as a godzilla movie it wasn't bad. The only problems were how weak they made godzilla, and not giving him his nuclear breath. I mean the babies were kind of bad, but it was just a fun scene, and I enjoyed that part of the movie more than I ever enjoyed any scene with Minilla in it from the original showa scene. Who knows, if toho wouldn't have gotten greedy and let tristar come up with their own monster instead of telling them no they had to buy rights to another toho monster the movie could've been even better.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
Hmm, while I'm okay with a monster island idea, and think it could work I can't see it working with the same dark gritty realistic approach they're going for with the upcoming movie. However if they're willing to change the tone(or hopefully realise this shouldn't even be tried to portrayed as realistic) the it could work, and probably be pretty good. A monster island idea could go a lot of directions, it could be as simple as them filling an island with pheromones that attract all the monsters to it and have a huge brawl, without going in too much of a b movie direction.
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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla height based on pre-order toy size ratio
well im going to guess that Godzilla is going to be about maybe 400 or 500 feet tall or maybe 300 :/
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sfjira415Godzilla ForumWhat Made You a Godzilla Fan?
When i read this question two things came to mind: 1 The Godzilla soundtrack for King of the monsters the first movie hospital scene watching all the chaos after effect and the underwater death of Godzilla scene. 2 Godzilla vs Monster Zero the infamous Dance and the new Godzilla 1990's Godzilla movies except GODZILLA 1997
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godzilla3580Godzilla 2014 ForumAllies and Enemies in the Future
I would love to see Anguirus come back. He was always one of my favorite monsters. As far as enemies go, I would like to see Destroyah, Gigan, or Ghidorah
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla height based on pre-order toy size ratio
They didn't say how big the winged muto was gonna be. They did say that the 8 legged muto was gonna be 3.5" tall. But still, your estimates came around to what mine were when I was calculating Godzilla's size according to people who went to Comic Con.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
I really don't see Mechagodzilla being a second movie sort of thing, or any mech for that matter, original or Toho. If anything, third or fourth movie, and that's only if Legendary decides to use any Toho creations. Simply because I see Mechagodzilla as the endgame. In each of the machine's appearances, it has come pretty damn close to killing Godzilla, and once it succeeded, if you consider the ending of Tokyo: SOS as Godzilla dying. There are only three instances, that I remember, where Godzilla actually dies. Gojira, Godzilla v. Destoroyah, and Tokyo: SOS. (four if you count the TriStar movie). In Gojira, Godzilla is killed by the oxygen destroyer, a manmade weapon that would never really happen in the real world. Godzilla v. Destoroyah, he dies via meltdown. Tokyo: SOS has Godzilla's ultimate fate up for debate, although it is more than implied that Godzilla died as a result of Kiryu (MG3), making Mechagodzilla the only "monster" that succeeded in killing Godzilla (again, if you consider the ending of that movie as Godzilla dying). Most people don't count Godzilla dying at the end of King Kong v. Godzilla as a real death, although he is defeated. So that's why I believe that IF they bring Mecha G into the Legendary movies, then it would be more of an endgame for a third or fourth movie. However, I will still see if I can find a good enough reason for them to put MechaGodzilla in the movies, because MechaG is my favorite Godzilla enemy and I would absolutely LOVE to see Legendary's take on Godzilla's metal doppelganger.
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GhidirahReturnsGodzilla Fan Works ForumKaiju Ideas
Name: Yamagawa Powers: liquid toxin spray, and armor build(ingests stone), health regeneration (stone consumption), move that kills it because of the blast which is fueled by solar pier is the kazan bakuhatsu or "volcano blast" that comes from its mountain. Description: a snapping turtle like head with elephant like tusks on the mouth sides. Ridges line the eyes and go up the broad heads center up to the shell edge. The hexagonal shell top is co reed in stone in a mountain shape. This allows it to hide or hibernate peacefully. It's tail is a big, broad club with feet that act as stony clubs too. It is quadropedal. Babies are able to walk on two legs. They lay an egg before death. The kaiju only cares about forest and mountain safety. It will harm those who harm those.
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MiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla height based on pre-order toy size ratio
Well. if your figures are fairly accurate, and Godzilla will be around 500 feet tall, then all I can say is, AWESOME! Would it not be incredible to see him at that height?? It would be mind numbing.
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Godzilla-should-slaughter-r-emmerichGodzilla 2014 ForumMore info on the Mutos: Theres Winged and 8 Legged.
I know I'm probably incredibly wrong on this, but I get this feeling that these 2 new monsters turn up just before or right at the emergence of Godzilla (the king), battle it out very early in the movie. In which the movie then somewhat follows the original movie of Godzilla destroying cities, and capturing the dark atmosphere of the original. Either way, I cannot wait
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-Treveasy- Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
I agree with the whole offspring off the muto or whatever monster your referring to but they should also be working on the Mecha G side project while this is going on & after the monster breaks loose from its controls they send mechagodzilla in to finish the monster & try to get godzilla.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla cartoon series discussion
It could be done. But the real question is "should it be done". I think a serious "cartoon" could work to fill in the gaps between movies, if there will be another movie, introduce some characters, and kill some off. I've seen some pretty serious "cartoons" that have little to no comic relief, and turned out to be amazing. If, for whatever reason, they do make a cartoon series, I hope it's very serious, and relatively short. Also, the artwork would have to be pretty damn good so it could be taken more seriously. I wonder what station it would be broadcast on, maybe Syfy. I dunno, in my opinion, it'd have to be a mini series that bridges the gaps between movies, provided that there will be sequels, and be pretty serious in overall tone, with little to no comic relief. Something that still presents Godzilla as a threat and not an ally would, in my mind, be the only way to do it.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat's your idea(s) of a 2014 Godzilla merchandise that you would want?
There is a novelization. lol I think a 6ft tall detailed statue would be cool.
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla cartoon series discussion
I had similar thoughts about the movie that would make the traditional version of a Godzilla cartoon hard, but then I got a new idea. 1: Godzilla is the main character (being a cartoon, we can hear his/her thoughts and her 'language' is kaiju to humans of the show but [insert your native language here] to the audience). 2: To have a human element, say this human teenager is the only one who can hear and talk to Godzilla (and the other kaiju). He not only provide the life lessons to children (some times it will be Godzilla who does this) but also tries to be a diplomat for us. If Godzilla believes we are harming nature in our attempts to control it (thus earning Godzilla's wrath), then he could teach how to better live in the world (progress without to much harm to the planet). 3: Naturally we'd have monster fights, but also have human enemies. You know the profile, power hunger, brilliant mind, and the forces to pull off his schemes. He wants to control Godzilla, and his/her human friend to gain the ability to talk to Kaiju (the only other human at start of the series who knows of his ability).
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