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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
It depends on what each studio wants. Of course, first, the movie has to be successful. But if it is Warner Brothers will want a piece of that pie and not budge with the contract. Legendary just seems content having creative control of the thing, so whatever is the easiest route to make the movie would probably be their choice. As for Toho, who knows what they'd want. I'm sure they would understand the situation between WB and Legendary. Still, even if they preferred Universal to take control that doesn't mean WB would be down for it. It's hard to say. It also made me wonder what other possible franchises WB and Legendary are permanently tied to.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 Forum1ST GODZILLA THEATRICAL TRAILER TO PREMIERE DURING THE WB EVENT AT THE ANNUAL LUCA COMICS CONVENTION?
@BCrockett94 C'mon man, you're seriously bumming me out. XD This is great news, images means anything displayable to the eye, so yes, that does include trailers. This could also prove my theory even further that we'll get a trailer in time for Thor 2, and maybe released to the public as early as Nov. 3rd.
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sfjira415Godzilla 2014 Forum1ST GODZILLA THEATRICAL TRAILER TO PREMIERE DURING THE WB EVENT AT THE ANNUAL LUCA COMICS CONVENTION?
no disrespect i hope i dont sound racist but WHAT MERRITS do the italians have to own the first copy of a Godzilla 2014 trailer? There probley going to get the comic con teaser or some teaser images. On the other hand the may third thing might be done. Either will see this trailer on The Thor 2 or Hunger games 2
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BilgaboGodzilla 2014 ForumI made another one!
KYERO was correct, and the black did make a good contrast to the egg.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumHow much godzilla is going to be in godzilla?
If they're really going for a feel like the original not at all for a while. Let there be build up with things going wrong everywhere, people searching for the reason, finding the Mutos and thinking they're the main culprits perhaps, then finally he appears.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forum1ST GODZILLA THEATRICAL TRAILER TO PREMIERE DURING THE WB EVENT AT THE ANNUAL LUCA COMICS CONVENTION?
What? It's been stated several times within the last year alone that it was going to be released in 3D, IMAX 3D I believe.
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Durp004Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
Not saying good or bad, but depth wise there's really no difference. Once again the characters weren't all that likable or memorable, but neither are most characters from Godzilla movies. The movie wasn't supposed to be Godzilla that we've seen. It was meant to be a new 1. True it would have been better if the atomic breath was included, or maybe the invulnerability, but once again to be fair that all may have been included had toho not made them change the script, or pay for copyrights to Ghidorah or Mothra. The mythology around godzilla can't really be included as it changes depending on the movie and series, and he stood for nuclear energy the same as every other incarnation it just wasn't done as well. As I said when comparing it with the worst Godzilla movies as a critic and not a Godzilla fan, or even as a fan it holds up pretty well for the most part, on every aspect. A lot of hate it is receiving is just unfair for the most part. When I first saw it I hated it too, as a fan but as I've rewatched it later I realized by no means is it the worst Godzilla movie, it just went for something different some may consider that a bad thing but personally I didn't have a problem with it, and to be honest this all comes down to preference. Sure you may hate it, but apparently judging by the comments there are plenty of Godzilla fans who also believe this movie gets a bad rep when it doesn't necessarily deserve it.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forum1ST GODZILLA THEATRICAL TRAILER TO PREMIERE DURING THE WB EVENT AT THE ANNUAL LUCA COMICS CONVENTION?
It says "images". I'm pretty sure that means just a few screen shots. This seems about as speculative as November 3rd being the date the trailer drops. It doesn't say anything about presenting a trailer, but "images". I hate to say it, but this movie isn't going to show a trailer any time soon. The main focus of the marketing strategy is to build intrigue, suspense, and tension until they believe we're "ready" for the movie trailer, which let's be honest, they're gonna give it to us on Christmas because that'd be the bestest xmas gift ever.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumHow much godzilla is going to be in godzilla?
According to director Gareth Edwards, we don't see Godzilla in his entirety much at all. I'm guessing we see Godzilla maybe a quarter of the film in it's entirety, but even less than that if you're talking about shots that show Godzilla in his entirety.
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MiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
GMAN2887 Do you think Toho might want to re work the contract to include Universal instead of WB? you would think that Universals clout with movies, it's own historic stable of monsters, and a theme park, there is a lot there it would seem to make it a perfect fit for the Godzilla franchise.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
@MiketheG7453 Actually, that that may not true. Everyone seems to be forgetting Toho here... Keith Aiken, one of the contributors to [url=www.scifijapan.com]Sci-Fi Japan[/url] and a current storyboard artist in LA, explained that the agreement with Toho,was that Legendary [u]and[/u] WB would be partners for the American Godzilla franchise. That agreement still holds. Kind of like how Legendary and Warner Brothers still had a DC agreement (although the difference is WB owns DC). The two companies still had it in their contract to do a Man of Steel 2 together. Legendary is out of it now, but had they not gotten out of the contract Legendary would have been making the next [i]Man of Steel[/i] (or [i]Batman vs. Superman[/i] rather) with Warner Brothers despite being partnered with Universal. The issue is more complicated with [i]Godzilla[/i]. As of right now if a sequel were greenlit, both Legendary and Warner Brothers would have to re-team for [i]Godzilla 2[/i]-- because that's the partnership Toho agreed to, not one with Universal. WB would still be shooting themselves in the foot, unless they wanted to renegotiate their stake in the future of the franchise. That said, while I don't expect a teaser on November 3rd, I don't think [i]The Hobbit[/i] is out of the realm of possibility. A lot of trailers are coming out at once right now and most studios don't like doing that so close to each other because they don't want the hype of each movie to cannibalize one another. I'd actually rather [i]Godzilla[/i] be one of the last trailers we get this year so it's pretty fresh in people's minds once the New Year starts.
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 Forummore than one muto?
According to the official 2014 Godzilla pre-order descriptions, they use "Mutos", indicating more than one of these critters will be in the movie. I'm not sure how tough these things are vs Godzilla, but until we see them in action I wouldn't count out them being very dangerous just yet.
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumHow much godzilla is going to be in godzilla?
I expect a good bit. At first, it will be showing the devastation of Godzilla and with Godzilla attacks yet the camera will show little of the creature. Towards when Godzilla enters San Francisco I expect we will see more though.
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MiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Well, I hope INSTINCTIVEGIGAN is right. Hell we all do. But I will say this. If it doesn't happen, we may be witnessing a deliberate ploy by WB to sabotage the take on this movie simply due to the split from legendary...who knows. it will certainly make me wonder. There has to be a bit of resentment on WB's part. Because any sequel would be done by Legendary and Universal...politics .
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KyeroGodzilla 2014 ForumRealism in 2014 Godzilla Discussion
@GMAN115 - I don\'t like being negative and I hate calling people this but... you\'re kind of stupid. Your argument reads as follows: "@True American Godzilla \"Realistically, Godzilla would need gills to survive in the water. No he doesn\'t, Godzilla never needed any gills before, so why now? Let\'s not forget that Godzilla is a dinosaur, and if you look back to his ancestors, there are a lot of types of dinosaurs that can breath underwater WITHOUT THE USE OF GILLS!!! The underwater breathing mechanism is probably inside of Godzilla\'s nose, that\'s why he was able to stay down there for so long without any problems. Giving Godzilla gills is pretty much useless. BTW, those things you call \"gills\" on his neck aren\'t really gills, those are scales that HAPPENS to look like gills.\" So let\'s break this down shall we? First off! \"No he doesn\'t, Godzilla never needed any gills before, so why now?\" Actually, yes he did. Toho chose not to go into the matter of how Godzilla could breath under the water. Why? We may never know for sure, but the most likely reason is to expand on the mystery that surrounds him. All animals that have lungs will need a set of gills to live in the sea. The only animals today which fit that category are amphibians (amphibian actually means \"living two lives\", referencing their life on land with their lungs and in the sea with their gills), so if you want to classify Godzilla realistically, he is in fact an amphibian. He\'s reptilian in nature, but if he breathes underwater via the use of gills or any other oxygen or water filtration system he\'s no longer classifiable (scientifically speaking) as a reptile. He is an amphibian. If he breathes underwater, he needs gills because it\'s obvious he has a pair of lungs to breath air. If he doesn\'t have gills, it\'s impossible to breath underwater, period. Next! \"Let\'s not forget that Godzilla is a dinosaur, and if you look back to his ancestors, there are a lot of types of dinosaurs that can breath underwater WITHOUT THE USE OF GILLS!!!\" This is where your stupidity really shows kid. First off, Godzilla was classified as an irradiated dinosaur in the movies, but let\'s not forget the fact that this is a theory and not a solid fact. All dinosaurs had lungs and breathed air. They were reptiles. All sea creatures during the time of the dinosaurs that could survive in water indefinitely without lungs or the need to breath air were classified as fish or some other manner of sea creature such as a crustacean, mollusk, amphibian, etc,. There is not a single dinosaur species in the fossil record that did not have lungs or breath air, nor a single species that could breath underwater. Again, I hate being negative and calling people this but you are in fact kind of stupid. Next! \"The underwater breathing mechanism is probably inside of Godzilla\'s nose, that\'s why he was able to stay down there for so long without any problems. Giving Godzilla gills is pretty much useless.\" More stupidity. First, you acknowledged the fact that Godzilla needs some kind of breathing mechanism to breath underwater. News flash, there is only one breathing mechanism in the world that allows for this to take place: gills. And quick question: Where is the evidence to support this theory of yours about a \"breathing mechanism\" being inside Godzilla\'s nose? I\'d like to know very much where you came up with this because it was obviously not based on any kind of study or knowledge of animals or biology. Again, without the use of gills, be they internal or external, breathing underwater is impossible. Toho never said whether he had gills or not, but the fact remains that there had to have been some kind of gill system in place within his being to allow him to breath underwater without drowning him. And finally, my favorite bit! \"BTW, those things you call \"gills\" on his neck aren\'t really gills, those are scales that HAPPENS to look like gills.\" You have obviously never studies animals or animal biology. If you had, those gills would stand out for what they are (gills) like a crimson red devil horned hat in a christian church on Sunday. Go do some research on gills one of these days. See what they look like across various types of animals which use them and you\'ll begin to see why they are in fact gills and not scales. If you want to debate someone, do so armed with facts and knowledge instead of fan-boy opinions. You obviously had no idea what you were talking about when you made that argument, and when you come unarmed to debates like this you set yourself up for destruction. That\'s exactly what happened here too. Your arguments have been completely and utterly destroyed. A mind is a terrible thing to waste GMAN115, so try not to waste yours any further.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat's your idea(s) of a 2014 Godzilla merchandise that you would want?
I think what I want the most out of merchandise is for distribution companies that currently hold rights for home video Godzilla releases to make the leap to Bluray-- especially the later movies that were shot in HD. More-over I hope Sony re-releases the Heisei Godzilla movies they own with Japanese language tracks and proper english subtitles. I also want proper ending credits as well. The current DVDs (minus [i]vs. MechaGodzilla II[/i] and [i]vs. Biollante[/i], which Sony do not own) are awful representations of the movies. I'd also like those tacky english title cards to be removed from any re-releases of the Millennium Godzilla movies. Those films have some great main title graphics and Sony absolutely ruined them by putting those ugly, white, english title cards over them. We need proper re-releases of the Heisei and Millennium Godzilla movies. And no dubtitles either.
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**Al**Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
speaking about trailers [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2zYHWDZKo]X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST - Official Trailer (2014)[/url] :) you are giving me reason to go to see Thor.. (fingers crossed).
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
@durp004 "Story-wise" is a very vague term to point out criticism. What about the stories? Are they good? Are they bad? That's fairly subjective in most circles-- Besides in this particular genre it's not so much about how one perceives the story's merit, but rather how it's executed. Applying Western criticism to Eastern cinema is like using a car engine to replace an airplane turbine. In all my studies of Japanese cinema there are few places that the two intersect so the comparisons of quality need to be re-adjusted. That said, GINO's story might have been worthwhile had the characters been remotely likable and capable of delivering decent performances. As it stands, only Jean Reno was the enjoyable character in the film. The effects were good, but that was expected by 1998. (Other than the monster changing sizes throughout the movie...) I'm not going to compare Western effects to Tokusatsu, because they both aim to do different things. I think the only thing misunderstood about GINO is not that it's a terrible movie, but why it's a terrible movie. Critically it's offputting, yes, but monster wise? It might've been more acceptable if it weren't called Godzilla, but Devlin and Emmerich missed the mark. They were arrogant enough to believe their interpretation would be superior and the lack of respect for the series insured that nothing but the name would be included. It goes beyond not including his atomic ray and making him weak. The creature didn't posses any majestic stature-- There was no terror, like in some movies and no awe like in other Godzilla incarnations. The mythology and metaphors were absent and the special effects took center stage. It made no effort to look at what the character stood for during any era of the series. It was a flat imitation of creature features that had come before and an example of Hollywood at its most crude. And perhaps an equal sin, if we look at the bulk of the Godzilla series: It just wasn't a lot of fun.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat do you hope to see if a 2014 Godzilla trailer was shown on 11-3-13?
The WIP trailer was already leaked. It was taken down pretty damn quick, and the quality was terrible. Or at the very least, it looked like an official trailer, but could have been a fake, the reason it'd get taken down is because the 2012 test footage was inter-spliced with it. I dunno, but I seriously wouldn't put any money down for a trailer to be shown on Nov. 3. I'd like to see what the people at SDCC 2013 had seen.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
On November 3rd, the Godzilla special effects person is gonna be at the Comikaze thing. They might just show the people who show up some of the footage with special effects in it, maybe even show us what the kaiju actually look like. I dunno. But I really doubt that they're going to release a trailer on Nov. 3. Just because it's Godzilla's "birthday", doesn't mean that they have to do anything on that day. I also don't think that Thor: The Dark World will promote Godzilla. I really only see Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug doing any sort of promotion before 2014. I'm pretty sure we'll see a trailer in 300: Rise of an Empire, as it's a Legendary movie, and it's a couple months earlier than Godzilla. Like Kaijusaurus has said, I wouldn't get my hopes up for a trailer this early.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
Ghidorah has only came close to killing Godzilla once, that I'm aware of, and that was in Final Wars. MechaGodzilla has came close to, or has, killed him in every one of his appearances. Even in the 90's movie, Godzilla versus King Ghidorah, Godzilla didn't have too much of a problem with King Ghidorah, rather it was Mecha King Ghidorah. My only reason I think MechaGodzilla, or a giant machine in general, should be the endgame is that man created some weapons that they're positive will kill Godzilla, but tanks and airplanes wouldn't be considered reliable anymore because of how easily destroyed they are.. and nuclear missile launch sites (as far as I'm aware) can't hit a moving target. Ghidorah seems more like a final monster to use, again on the assumption Legendary uses Toho monsters, but not the necessarily the endgame. I'd put MechaGodzilla and Ghidorah in the same movie. Godzilla is defending his stomping grounds that Ghidorah has invaded, while MechaGodzilla defends the planet from both. I see a sort of loose alliance between MechaGodzilla and Godzilla to destroy Ghidorah (so that it makes Ghidorah look even more powerful), but quickly after that, MechaGodzilla and Godzilla are at each others throats again, with MechaG coming out on top in the end, and maybe a post credit scene that suggests that Godzilla may or may not be alive (to avoid fanboys from getting upset at Godzilla being killed).
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumMutos are scorpions?
I came across an article saying that the 2012 monster was maybe inspired by scientific research done in Japan on how the radiation was affected the ecosystem, specifically silkworms. However, the monster designs have been updated since 2012. 2013 describes the new monster(s) as being different than the 2012 test footage.
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KaijusaurusGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
You guys shouldn't have your hopes high for the trailer to be released on November 3rd. It's all just fan speculation. Don't get mad if the trailer isn't released on that day. And don't say I didn't warn you.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Anchorman 2 is a rated R comedy and the 300 prequel will be a rated R gore fest. Those movies will never in hell be advertised at a Marvel movie. Robocop, yes. That's 5 trailer slots, the only other movie left is Godzilla. The one thing that begs the question is, will there be a 6th.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Even if going for the same demographic a Robocop remake, the sequel to 300, and Anchorman 2 are all coming out and all have earlier release dates than Godzilla. There are plenty of movies who would more than likely take the spot in the preview section for a big movie like Thor 2, and trust me all those companies want a big movie to release trailers on I would be highly surprised to see Godzilla take it over the others.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
Well if there's around 3 other previews then Godzilla is one of them. At big hit movies you wanna show about the same demographic at your movie, thus the superhero movies being advertised at a superhero movie. The only movie besides Marvel ones I can think of that Thor will advertise is the 2nd Hobbit. I still say expect Godzilla, releasing him at Thor would get people interested enough for them to start showing the trailer at other movies like Enders Game and the Hobbit.
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FordBrodyLover99Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
Godzilla`s Revenge. Yeah, alot of people have already mentioned it, but i wanna give my own statement. This was one i had a hard time finding and first here in 2013 i manage to get it and watch it. I had expected to litteraly HATE the movie. And you know what? I loved it. Heck, even the kid character was great, and i usually hate them. The turmoil of his shyness and his everyday life seems legit. This was a great idea, the problem is most people saw it as a traditionel Godzilla movie, and as that it sucks. But it isnt. Its an interestinmg look into the mind of a little kid, a very imaginative kid which just makes these ideas so great. And to everyone who sees the 98 movie as misunderstood, dont worry, it isnt. We understand it. We understand that its 100 % crap.
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Durp004Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
To be fair the same could be said for most Godzilla movies if you looked at them as a critic rather than as a fan. Story wise was the 98 version worse than some of the toho 1s? God no; effects wise it was fine for the time. Characters weren't any more memorable or forgettable than most. I mean stacking it up against the best Godzilla movies it crumbles, but against the worst it holds it ground better than most fan would like to admit.
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FordBrodyLover99Godzilla 2014 Forum2014 Godzilla cartoon series discussion
Okay, i know ive posted here already, but i have thought about the idea. If youre willing to look by the monstrous disaster Godzilla causes you COULD have a show. But there is stuff they should remember; No teens. Oh god, no teens. Kids are okay, but no teens. They find their way to ruin so much. Godzilla shouldnt be some idiots pet like a certain other giant monster cartoon did it. A team of people who simply follow and study him, like the team from Godzilla 2000 would be great. If they could follow these rules and look past what i stated above then a cartoon MIGHT work, its not certain. We have yet to see a good Godzilla animated series.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMost misunderstood Godzilla movie??
There's a vast gulf of things that are awful about GINO outside of it being an awful example of what a Godzilla movie should be and I'm not sure I have the patience or time to criticize all of it...
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 - Hopes and Concerns + Thor 2: Expect a Trailer!
I don't think there will be a trailer at Thor. If anything the Marvel movies take away that chance. At the average movie I go to see there are roughly 5 trailers, and with marvel movies occupying 3 of these spots it makes it even less likely for Godzilla to appear. Sure in terms of release date he's close to those movies, but marvel Movies ALWAYS show marvel movies before every1 else, and that leaves roughly 2 to 3 spots after them up for grabs. Unfortunately there are plenty of big name movies coming out between Thor and Godzilla who are likely to take these spots over the big guy. Could we see the trailer? Sure but i think the Marvel movies previews are just a much evidence we won't as we will.
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumMechagodzilla in the sequel!
On a fan boy level, I want the sequel to have Mecha G, King Ghidorah, and several other Toho Kaiju, but from a more realistic standpoint, I'd guess Mecha G could only appear in a sequel if enough time passes between movies, or if the first one isn't as "dark and realistic" as we're being led to believe. That being said, I wouldn't mind if they make another original kaiju for a sequel, but I would be extremely disappointed if there isn't a Toho one in it as well. Obviously redesigned to fit the theme and style of the movie, but still recognizable. And no, I don't think it would come across as Legendary/ WB/ Gareth/ whoever shamelessly trying to copy what Toho has done, but rather be more like honoring them. Also, you can't tell me that if you were in the theaters opening night and you see your favorite villain show up that you wouldn't be super excited. Heck, I get teary-eyed just thinking of the possibility of Destroyah happening
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumHow Edwards could pull off the Monster Island theme and still have a "horror" film.
I read it but you didn't make it clear that you're idea was what had to be discussed, especially when you said, only about 10% of your idea would be used, indicating you thought it could be done but didn't have to include your idea almost at all.
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla Teaser in Minecraft Style
Looks Like WB has actually taken this down for copyright issues! I can't believe it. I mean, how close could it have possibly been that they would feel the need to flag it? I've seen animated versions that haven't been pulled, so why was this?
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