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I wouldn't worry unless Kong flops.
Like I said it's not extremely likely Godzilla 2 gets scrapped, but it is possible
I'm worried for this movie now...
Coincidentally leaving them enough time to see how Kong does before they really throw their cards in, or pull out.
Keep in mind this movie comes out in 2 and a half years....
No cast, no director, just announcing the script writers and they didn't commit to really big names for that either.
If Kong fails that's a BIG red flag towards future Godzilla movies. Not saying it's incredibly likely this films gets scrapped, but it's not unthinkable. A lot rests on Kong for if this cinematic universe Legendary is trying to create goes through.
Very unlikely this movie will be scrapped. They just hired 2 new writers plus they will be filming in China in that new mega studio Wanda just built. I always thought that we will hear about a new director when the hype of Kong SI dies down.
They're probably waiting to see how Kong Skull Island does before they really commit.
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Man i hope this lack of directors won't make this movie scrapped.
Man shin is going to rekt it../..
I wanted to keep the use of Shin Godzilla a secret but I couldn't resist using this title.
This is interesting! I certainly hope Dougherty and Shields produce a polished and exciting script! :)
The fact that Max Borenstein is out is GREAT news. But I can't speak for these two. Doughtery cleaned up X2: X-Men United pretty well back in 2003. But his co-writing wasn't quite as strong for X-Men: Apocalypse. (Although I enjoyed that movie.)
I think the main take away here is that Legendary is going on the cheap and using in-house writers. We should probably expect something similar with their choice of director--People they've worked with before or are currently attached to Legendary projects.
...I didn't watch Krampus but i hope they'll do a good job...*crosses fingers*
I'm waiting on Legendary's Godzilla 2, no disrespect to Shin Godzilla.
... your lucky.......
I got tickets for it passed Saturday. Hurray?!
The article no longer has a purpose, and as Shiro has said--is devolving into a maddening back and forth. No more shall it exist, by Imperial decree--I LOCKITH THIS.
Also, the majority of the film takes place in the same year It was made. 1991.
If you own the DVD or blu-ray by Sony, your version is no different than mine.
You're missing the point entirely here. The futurians plans all along were to go back in time to get rid of the dinosaur that was to be mutated by the H-bomb in 54. The quote once more after they teleport the dinosaur is "We thought teleporting the dinosaur back here would get rid of Godzilla. Unlike our age (coming from 2023ad I believe) this era (1991) is filled with nuclear waste and power. So it didn't matter where we teleported the dinosaur to. The birth of Godzilla was an unavoidable event."
What more do you need?
There was never the quote saying they were teleporting him to this day and age. They mentioned they were going to move him off Lagos, then when the teleporting took place M 11 mentioned how moving an animal was difficult but since this one was immobile it would be easier. That quote or nothing similar was said on the version I watched so I can't comment on its integrity.
Godzilla has disappeared Ghidorah as taken his place is once again from the same person that thought Godzilla was dead, that did the whole thing to create Ghidorah, and had other intentions, so once again that was a questionable quote to try to summarize the movie, as fact. The bad guys that have mislead people up till that point are now supposed to be taken seriously? It's likely they themselves didn't know they thought they were changing time when in reality that was always meant to happen. It's the same logic as terminator literally the exact same.
And he took just absorbed more from Shindo's sub that was sent out in that movie. If you notice Godzilla had been active prior to the point of Shido's sub going down.
And one more thing. Now that I've actually thought about. Here's two more quotes from the film.
"Godzilla has disappeared. And now king ghidorah has taken his place."
Going back and looking at the article again, Toho never did or did not confirm the Godzilla in 84 to be 54. However, with the title "The return of Godzilla" It's hard not to think that.
These films acknowledge 1954. So, according to the return of Godzilla, it is the 54 Godzilla and it never died. Skip to 1991 And what we have is a movie going back in time to stop the dinosaur from being exposed to the H-bomb and nuclear power. Doing so required going back to the year 1944. Because, it was speculated that the dinosaur would become Godzilla in 1954. The book titled the birth of Godzilla was what the whole theory was as provided in 1991.
So again, as quoted, "We'll teleport the dinosaur back here in this day and age." coming from the year 1991 and for the dinosaur to be put in the Bearing Sea in that same time period, 1991.
The fact that they also don't confirm that the 54 Godzilla was dead until 1995 in Godzilla vs Destoroyah is all the proof you need to show this Godzilla has a new origin.
When they teleport the dinosaur, and then return to the year 1991, the question again was "What can you tell us about Godzilla?" the futurians said, "He's gone."
It's not hard to understand. The whole system was set up to go back in time to get rid of Godzilla from the whole history of Japan. Later on in the film, they had no idea they teleported the dinosaur to an area with nuclear waste. It was Shindo's sub that gave Godzilla the extra power he needed making him twice the size and far more powerful than the original.
It's not until Godzilla vs Destoroyah that they bring up the fact that they had to kill him the same way as the original from 1954.
Therefore, in conclusion, Godzilla in 84 is the same beast from 54. It never died and was 30 meters taller. It was made as a direct sequel ignoring the films from 55-75.
Yes. They created a new origin for Godzilla. Doing so in the year 1991. When the dinosaur was teleported and Godzilla was reported gone by confirmation in the film, the Godzilla in 84 and 89 disappeared. Which again, was created by modern nuclear weapons that same year in 1991. Hence the quote "Godzilla was made with modern nuclear weapons. So it's only natural that he's bigger."
And I'm telling you this article is wrong. The film itself explains it. Not to mention Ed Godziszewski, author of the illustrated encyclopedia of Godzilla, wrote more information about this film in particular before this website.
You, myself, or others, can not change what is said and done in the films. The answers are right there in the films themselves.
Ben I don't know how to explain this without a long story.
Thankfully other people have done it for me. So you can read this to get the explanation and why the quote of "he's gone" actually can lie based off who it comes from.
As you can see they never moved the dinosaur in time just location.
RR44 THANK YOU FOR PUTTING AN END TO THAT POINTLESS THING!!! :D
.....i'll have to still wait for blu ray and buy it on amazon....:(
.....i'll have to still wait for blu ray and buy it on amazon....:(
I think one thing is true.. as kids.. we love monster movies.. as we get older.. we still.. love monster movies.. I think we should never set our expectations too high. (I'm guilty of that). Just enjoy the concepts.. along with mindless destruction and turmoil that we appreciate seeing in a Kaiju flick. ala PACIFIC RIM.. now that movie is cool. saw it with wife and daughter. they liked it too.
YAY now I can see it again and make up for the first 11 minutes I missed because of traffic! I got to my seat right before Godzilla made landfall. He was still in the ocean, preparing to push himself out.
I'm definitely watching it again. It was so damn amazing. Way better than I expected.
They don't have anymore tickets where I live.....:(.
"What can you tell us about Godzilla?"
"He's gone." those quotes don't lie Durp.
Not to mention, it was only speculated that biollante became spacegodzilla as well as Godzilla's cells on Mothra who as well was in space.
Uh, no Durp. They said specifically in the film "to teleport the dinosaur back here." meaning the year 1991. Sure, in the berring sea. But, in 1991. Did you not pay attention to what is said in the film?
Yet, you still deny the fact that the knowledge of Godzilla is not gone nor the fact that they had to kill him the same way as the first Godzilla. What is so hard to understand there?
Ben they didn't transport the Godzillasaur to 91 they just moved it to the Bering Sea in 44. 84 never vanished that was just when this godzilla woke up again. So it comes full circle.
The 54 Godzilla isn't the same as the heisei one, hence why Godzilla vs Destoroyah has such a large connection to it, and why Biollante became SpaceGodzilla(Biollante wouldn't exist otherwise). As I said the explanation isn't great, but the info is all there within the movie.
Source: just watched the scene from Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
The whole plan of the movie was to go back in time to rid Godzilla from Japan's history. It failed miserably in the film and also in knowledge. As I've pointed out numerous times, they went back in time to finally put an end to the history of Godzilla for good. Meaning everything about Godzilla was to be forgotten and never known of.
Listen to what you just said. They went back in time to the year 1944 to stop the dinosaur being mutated by the H-bomb in 1954. Meaning the plague of 1954 was still there. They teleport the dinosaur from 1944 to the year 1991 with 84 Godzilla vanishing. The origin of the 84 Godzilla is supposed to be 1954 only 80 meters tall.
Plus, the futurians had no idea they teleported the dinosaur to an area with nuclear waste. "Unlike our age, this era is filled with nuclear waste. So it didn't matter where we teleported the dinosaur to. The unavoidable birth of Godzilla could not be ignored."
In other words, Godzilla 54 apparently did not die. That's why the Russian sub went down. The fact is, when the teleport back to the year 1991, Godzilla was still around from 1954. However, again as I pointed out in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, the quote once more, "We must kill him the same way we did the first Godzilla (1954). The oxygen destroyer."
How do they still remember that Godzilla then? The thing is, they tried too hard to explain the original origins of Godzilla from 54 but, all they did was make a new origin for a new Godzilla.
