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AkagiGodzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

Godzilla vs Hedorah.

 

People forget that Godzilla flying was a way of Banno self parodying the dark tone of the film. His form of film making was far more interestin got me than Jun Fukuda's and Ishiro Honda's. I liked how artsy it was, and the tone was serious. People forget how many lives are lost in Godzilla vs Hedorah, how we see the direct result of Hedorah's onslaught. Beyond that, I'd say its probably one of the darkest Godzilla films ever made. 

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Durp004Godzilla Forumif they re-did the showa series

I don't think they should ever redo that series. 

I however would love nothing more than for them to redub Godzilla raids again since it's dub is horrible

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Durp004Godzilla ForumKiryu Versus Gigan (2004)

kiryu basically tied with Godzilla in both films that he was in whereas Gigan just got destroyed multiple times or ran away. 

As much as I used to like Gigan he's a pretty weak monster in the series.

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Deadite KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumMore Godzilla Toys

I really want that 1954 remote control Godzilla. It's such a shame that it costs like $1,000 - $2000 :(

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GODZILLA HIMSELFGodzilla 2014 ForumWhy A "Bad" Ending Would Make Godzilla (2014) More Perfect

yes, it should have an ending  where mankind loses, makes sence when you consider the tone of film. besides, its not cliche like, oh i don't know, almost every superhero movie ever!

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DC67Godzilla 2014 ForumGuys dont be 100% sure and think there wont be any TOHO monsters in this movie

I agree with the above. Let's get a fresh crop of kaiju for this film and beyond.

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DC67Godzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

Vs The Thing. No camp, effects were good. Loved the way he rose up from the ground instead of the sea when he made his initial entrance. 

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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumWhy A "Bad" Ending Would Make Godzilla (2014) More Perfect

Yeah I don't like Cloverfield's ending much, but they were on the right track. I just didn't give a crap about the characters that much to care, I think if Godzilla made good characters it'd be much better than Cloverfield. But then again, I don't like Cloverfield that much overall.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla Forumif they re-did the showa series

Godzilla vs. Mothra '64 was pretty serious as well, but the fact is if these movies had stayed "dark and serious" we wouldn't have nearly as many Godzilla movies. They would've gotten stale and boring and the series wouldn't have last.

Besides, they tried remaking the Showa series. It was called the Heisei and Millennium series. Both were inferior to the Showa series and I would never change a single thing about it, especially not the 1960s films.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumIf you directed the movie

^You have no idea how much I love this.

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Manthony HiggsGodzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

godzilla 84 for sure.  GMK is pretty serious too, with the whole "big g is the ghosts of everyone who died in the pacific theater", but at teh same time, there's guardian spirits and it does have some campy elements.

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4KaijuGodzilla Forumif they re-did the showa series

Its deffinitely not needed....

Best introduce a new series with new monsters.

unlike most of the millenium films which reused and re-introduced the same monsters again and had very few new monsters

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AkagiGodzilla 2014 ForumIf you directed the movie

I'd make the Godzilla movie I wanted to see and I'd avoid the fan-wankery that is "Godzilla is a metaphorz for nuclear holocaust yo! TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY".

 

But that is just me. I'd make a sequel to the Showa series and really embrace the Japanese culture surrounding Godzilla and tokusatsu in general, not discard it because its 'silly' or 'wouldn't hold up to today's audiences'.

 

Best part is, my Godzilla movie would be a helluva lot cheaper to make than Legendary's and it'd have an all Japanese cast, thus meaning there wouldn't be over priviledged american actors taking up a huge portion of the film's payroll.

 

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KyeroGodzilla 2014 ForumWhat if at the end of the movie there is a guest apperance by a classic toho kaiju?

No Toho monsters.

Period.

If Legendary can't succeed with Godzilla using their own creativity to create new foes and stories for him, they don't deserve to make this franchise at all.

Toho monsters belong with Toho, and they did not have a hand in the development of this film. They only supervised Godzilla's design, nothing more. Legendary made no announcements of any other Toho creatures, and they confirmed multiple times that there wouldn't be any.

If Legendary does bring in a Toho monster, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot and proving once and for all that they don't deserve to do anything with Godzilla beyond this film. Toho Kaiju belong with Toho and they belong in the old films that we all know and love. They do not belong in this franchise.

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KyeroGodzilla 2014 ForumGuys dont be 100% sure and think there wont be any TOHO monsters in this movie

Question TEVIN, how do you know what Legendary would or would not say?

Last I checked you're just another person on the internet. Are you the son of a Legendary producer or director who's been involved in the film or at least in Legendary as a whole and somehow know their process and their strategies in a way that nobody else does?

Legendary announced several times there'd be no Toho monsters in the film, and indeed that's how it should be. 

Toho monsters don't belong in this franchise, and if Legendary puts one into the franchise they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. This'll be about the umpteenth time I've said it, but here it is again:

If Legendary can't make a successful franchise based on Godzilla using their own creativity, they don't deserve to make the franchise at all.

I'm 100% certain they won't have any Toho monsters in the film. The leaked information that Chris received from his anonymous source that says the MUTOs are Toho monsters I'm certain is a load of crap born of either misinterpretation or miscommunication, and as much as I trust Chris I don't trust this anonymous source of his.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumIf you directed the movie

I wouldn't direct a Godzilla movie. This fanbase is too hard to please and Gareth Edwards is a saint for putting up with it. If I signed up to direct Godzilla it would include a clause that I never had to go to Comic Con or meet fans.

One thing is for sure though. If I did direct it, it would not include the words "rap-rap" or "tuff-tuff" at all.

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KyeroGodzilla 2014 ForumBeginning of movie

The reason they went with gas in the original was due to budgetary reasons. They had always meant it to be a concentrated beam, but money and effects technology limited their options.

Godzilla's thermonuclear breath cannot be in a gaseous form because gas dissipates the farther away from the source it gets. Godzilla's breath would go all of maybe one full Godzilla body length away and then dissipate into nothing. True it would be radioactive and bake the surrounding area with radiation, but it would be incredibly underwhelming. Physics demands a concentrated beam rather than a stream of gas. Not only does gas dissipate, but it also lacks any kind of impact as it's just a slightly denser form of air in a way. Even if it's radioatice, it's just gas and that makes it incredibly limited in its capabilities.

It has to be a concentrated beam or else it doesn't work.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

Easily Godzilla 1984. The movie isn't concerned with anything remotely other-worldly like mysticsm, time travel, interstellar space monsters...etc... It's a politcal, cold-war, disaster film.

GMK is dark, but it's not super serious. It's flexible enough to have fun with the mythical aspects and the monster battles.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumWhy the MTV Poll/Super Bowl Didn't Matter

Can't really do anything but say I agree with the above two posts here.

Madison,

I've always heard a movie must earn back 2x its budgets due to the 50% theater costs. Where does this 1.5x factor in? Or is it a matter of time?

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 Forumso is the anticipation killing anyone else?

@Akagi

"It'd be a bit naive to assume that Kyero isn't getting some sort of smartassed joy out of telling people they are wrong, or at least venting his unbridled furstration, either way he wouldn't be here mingling with us commoners if he didn't. Like I've stated in the past, I usually agree with him, but I get tired of seeing walls of text over explaining assumptions as fact-- that kind of pretentious display has a way of being counter productive."

Well of course he gets off a little to being right, but I do to sometimes. Granted it's more evident with him, but sometimes people need a swift kick in head to get their thought process straight. I still don't see it in every post he makes, though.

It's probably correct to assume this forum caters to a younger crowd, but it would be nice if they at least continued on their way with the correct information. (Although I'm not strictly speaking about news and rumors of the upcoming film... Much of that invites shooting messages back and forth. I tend to steer clear of most of those creative assumptions. They just don't interest me.)

But regardless of age, most fandoms are like this. The Godzilla fandom as a whole has been pretty barbaric since I joined the online community in 1998. What's terrifying is this is childs play compared to the Star Trek and Star Wars fandoms. Not that that it makes it any better, but it's worth noting that most large fanbases with a considerable history are going to be bumpy no matter what.

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doggiezillaGodzilla ForumGodzilla vs 1.0

LOL Minilla vs Orga that cracks me up when you think about it.

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doggiezillaGodzilla ForumKiryu Versus Gigan (2004)

Kiryu got this. In Final Wars Gigan's head got blown off two times by Mothra and Godzilla.

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Dragonlord TevinGodzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

GMK's my favorite and my opinion agrees with you too, i love how that movie goes all mythical or should i say prophecy-like

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Deadite KaijuGodzilla ForumWhich classic G movie other then the original did you thought was the most serious in tone?

Yeah definitely GMK. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah and Destroyah and 1985 were also pretty serious in tone.

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doggiezillaGodzilla 2014 ForumGuys dont be 100% sure and think there wont be any TOHO monsters in this movie

I completely agree with BCrockett94. I see the Muto a different monster, not Toho monster.

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Deadite KaijuGodzilla ForumGodzilla vs 2.0

1 King Ghidorah

2 Gypsy Danger

3 Minilla because he is like 50 times my size.

4 Hulk

5 Godzilla

6 Gamera

7 Godzilla 2014 because he is bigger and stronger

8 Godzilla already fried Zilla's ass in Final Wars so obviously Godzilla would win.

9 Do more, these are fun :)

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Deadite KaijuGodzilla ForumGodzilla vs 1.0

1. Godzilla

2 I would say Mothra only because I don't know anything about the MUTOS

3 Mechagodzilla

4 Sea Monster

5 Godzilla

6. Is that a serious question? Lol. Orga.

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King_of_ZombiesGodzilla ForumA Godzilla Toy

Thanks for clarify my doubts guys, I love you all.

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Deadite KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumOver 43" Godzilla 2014 Figure

Ooooh, wow. I thought the toy was 43" in height. Lol. 43" in height sounded a bit crazy but it makes sense now. XD

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Dragonlord TevinGodzilla 2014 ForumWait a min.... wheres the proof then??

Jerk? Youre calling me a jerk now? Ok then assume whatever you think's correct im done argueing with you.

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