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LOLOLOLOL. I agree, Godzilla 2014 IS Godzilla. Super happy with the design!
I agree with a lot of what you said up there. It wasn't terrible, and was actually better than a lot of Kaiju movies out there, just not "Godzilla." I agree about the babies being a terrible addition to the movie, and in my opinion, what runis it as a movie. I don't go to a kaiju movie to watch little monsters run around!
Anyway, that's what I hope this new movie learns, little monsters (in my opinion) have no place in a kaiju movie. If you can't make the monsters seem threatening without making them people sized, you have failed at making the movie. Cloverfield had little monsters, and they ruined it (terrible camera work, acting, and characters aside). I guess whay I'm saying is, if MUTO's are only people sized, or even just a little bigger (car sized), i'm going to be upset. It just shows that the writers/directors did not have what it takes to make a larger, building sized, monster menacing to the characters. To me it means that they failed. All I can think of when little monsters are introduced is "Jurrasic Park wannabe."
I offer my deepest condolences to you and your family. I'm so sorry for your loss. Loosing any family member is too terrible for words, but there is a special bond between brothers, especially those that share a mutual love for something special like Godzilla. Rest assured, George is currently looking down on you with Eiji Tsuburaya, Tomoyuki Tanaka, Ishiro Honda, and Akira Ifukube right beside him. And something tells me he'll be there with you in the theater on May 16th as well. :)
This is the first topic I've seen of this nature. I'm very sorry for your loss as well. 37 is way too young... I send my respects to you and your family.
So sorry for your loss, it really is saddening to hear about such a thing. Im sure he died happy. He is at rest now.
RIP George
Fellow G-fans, you might be sick of waiting for the images of the monsters, but they willl come soon, also it should be with waiting for, in the end.
KAIJUJIRA Ikr thats what I meant, just not hanging too much
Omg it really does saddens me to hear someone wont be able to see the new Godzilla movie anymore, or he actually will in Heaven :)
But yeah RIP to your brother and sorry too that you had to lose the perfect brother that was also a G fan
Wow! Good eye! :)
If you enter "Save" you get SAVING... (SAVE UNSUCCESFUL... DRIVE ACCESS ERROR)
Could this mean anything? Maybe we have to fix it?
i am also sick of waiting. and im tired of seeing all the fake images and being trolled. i just want to see the monsters already
WOW! I've never seen photoshop that bad.....
I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. It's a real shame that he passed. I hope you and your family can find comfort and peace. It's hard to lose family members.
I hope your brother is resting peacefully now.
yeah i agree with KYERO, apparently Gvs Megalon is what gave godzilla the bad repuation he has to this day, also i'd preffer if they used original monsters because unlike superhero movies which has your fans and audiences to have an existing known villian, with godzilla it is quite flexible on the monster, despite how iconic mothra and king ghidorah are, they are not the same as having the joker in a batman movie series, they will most likely make originals and some that a homage or inspired by tohos monsters heck maybe the PR kaiju may have influence in the sequels.
sorry may he rest in peace and i hope he didn't suffer when he died tell your sister in law that he is in heaven probaly with the guy who made godzilla
I'm so sorry for your loss...R.I.P George chaffins, our fellow godzilla fan
that wasn't the point of this thread, the point was that the time travel in GvsKG had no effect on any godzilla, the point was that the events of those two movies still happned. check what happened to spacegodzilla when he died, what did he become because to me it looks like SPORES.
It has been done. Godzilla vs. Megalon was one of the cheesiest of the Showa films, and should not be repeated in my honest opinion.
Like I've said before, Toho monsters don't belong in this Legendary Pictures and WB franchise. Both studios, even though it's really just Legendary now since WB split from them, have enough creativity and originality to create a franchise of their own creations and make it succeed.
Copying Toho's success is nothing short of contrived, forced, irresponsible, and disrespectful to the original source material.
If Legendary can't make a successful franchise with their own creativity and originality, then they don't deserve to work with the material at all.
@ godzillafan1995
thanks man
@doggiezilla
thanks man
It's probably not a police car at all, but rather a company vehicle similar to a police car.
Also, you guys do know that the Biollante and Mothra theories are still just that right? Theories?
Toho themselves never confirmed which of the two, if it was even either one of them at all, was responsible for SpaceGodzilla's birth. The tusks are cute in reference, but they are not confirmation of any kind beyond the shadow of a doubt that Biollante is the source.
Besides, there's a major issue with the Biollante theory.
If Biollante was the source of the mutation, then Spacegodzilla would have shared more in common with Biollante than Godzilla to begin with due to Biollante being the source material. Godzilla's genes within Biollante's cannot simply be stripped or isolated so that they can conveniently create a Godzilla shaped space monster. Space doesn't work that way because it's not a science laboratory where genetics can be manipulated at will. In a similar fashion as to why radiation doesn't just do what you want it to, space doesn't just do what you want it to.
In fact, Godzilla's flesh attached to Mothra would be the more likely candidate because it is solid 100% Godzilla source matieral. If Godzilla's flesh was attached to Mothra and broke off at any point during her travels for whatever reason and went through the black hole/white hole thing then that would be the perfect source material for Spacegodzilla since it's, again, 100% Godzilla.
Otherwise it would have been Spacebiollante due to Biollante's genes being a much stronger presence than Godzilla's in the genetic mix. If it had been Biollante's genes, then Spacegodzilla would have been Spacebiollante and looked like a strange, warped version of Biollante rather than simply Godzilla.
Besides, the whole Mothra and Biollante debate is rather pointless. We know that Spacegodzilla was a Godzilla inspired creature. Why bother with its true origin which was never confirmed even by its own creators? It's left open to interpretation for a reason, to give you an opinion on the matter to hold close. It's not something that's meant to create pointless debates like this.
But for those who want a more solid answer, the genetics don't lie. Biollante as source material would have created a much more Biollante inspired creature than something that looks near identical to Godzilla only save for a pair of tusks on the corners of his mouth. What else about him looks like biollante? Nothing really. His skin, spines, and even his general movements are all Godzilla inspired. The only thing that's even remotely close is his roar, which was actually Gigan's roar played back at a slower speed. The high pitched screech was similar to Biollante's yell in a small way, but it still isn't enough to confirm in any way that Biollante is the source material for his creation.
If you want the debate to end and a permanent answer found, find a Toho executive who was on board the creative process and ask them which it was. You'll likely get this as an answer: "Which do you think it was?"
Your right Gojira2k, but why is it on a police car?
This is an interesting debate, but ultimately I don't think it matters what the facts are behind all of this.
The single most important fact is this: Toho acknowledged that the writing of that movie was poorly done and thought out, and that it leaves many open holes in the theories and explanations.
Isn't that enough to put it down and say the idea is cool but could have used a stronger writer?
That will be a good fight. What I want to see is MecaGodzilla vs Godzilla or King ghidorah vs Godzilla, that will be cool too.
Sorry for your loss Mr. Chaffins and I hope you and your family recover from this. R.I.P. are good fellow G Fan George Chaffins.
@ gojira2k
thanks man yeah it is tough when someone who you grew up with just all of a sudden dies but like i said he is in a better place now
I knew that was the M.U.T.O. sign on the police car! I never realized it was on the other pictures.
So sorry about your brother. It really hurts when you lose a family member and fellow Godzilla fan. R.I.P. George Chaffins.
Yes, I totally agree with this.
@Kyero
When you make assumptions, you make an ass out of you and me. We don't know exactly WHAT is Godzilla's origin in this new film, he could very well be mildly supernatural.
Besides, realism in design does not equal realism in functin or origin.
So yeah, I'm glad you know exactly what Legendary is going for, must be nice being a know it all.
I don't get fans wanting to tone Godzilla down so its more appealing to other audiences. My opinion is F**K other audiences. I don't like the crap they like, who cares if they like what I like? I'm tired of Godzilla fans wanting something that appeals to everyone-- if it appealed to everyone it wouldn't be Godzilla.
And as far as GMK's 'stupid story'. Every Godzilla movie has an outlandish stupid story, including the first one. If you get to the nitty gritty, the first one has one of the most nonsensical outlandish stories ever, with a special, crazy over powered unrealistic weapon. So lets not split hairs on what is stupid-- because at the end of the day, a movie about anything over 300ft tall not exploding under its own weight is silly and stupid and unrealistic and that is what makes it great.
An end with cliffhanger could be good, but if they don't this properly, can ruin the movie... In my opinion, a good ending, will be with Godzilla returning to the ocean, when all efforts to stop him don't work. It would not be a problem for the return of Godzilla in a possible sequel. So, I prefer a definitive ending.
Yes, I agree, An open would be the best. I think, something like the end of Cloverfiel would be great. Just my opinion.
Probably not. It was supposed to be a promo for Godzilla 2014
thing is sony could've done it distributed the movies but instead they only release most of the dvds to the american while europe is stuck with their 1998 crap trying to hide the people of europe what the real godzilla is and looks like, even though some godzilla movies were released on vhs at the time of 1998s release.
Anything involving spirits, gods, mythical creatures, or supernatural happenings is going to be related to or grounded in fantasy, simple as that.
Since that's not part of the realism of Legendary's Godzilla design, let alone something that would bring a realistic human reaction, Legendary will never use it. Still, for GMK it was a stupid plot, but it gave us a new look at Godzilla and gave us one of his coolest designs as far as suits are concerned save for the hunchback. Thankfully they fixed it in the toys, but still, the suit looked like a Godzilla version of Quasimodo with that hump on his shoulders.
But yeah, such an idea will NEVER be part of the realism that Legendary is going for.
It's concerning. My guess is that since America is the largest international market for Toho, they focus most of their efforts here. Toho even has their own office in Los Angeles, California.
I have no idea if Toho has the same physical presence in any European country, but my guess is that there's been a lack of effort on both sides: Toho for not focusing more on the European countries and distributors in Europe that aren't convinced there's a market for liscensing Godzilla movies and merchandise.
I know most European collectors out there tend to import from America and buy region-free DVD and Bluray players to play our discs-- which sucks and I sympathize with, but I have no way of knowing how to get European distributors attention. Or American distributors for that matter.
I don't think I'm looking too closely at all. Even if you took this level of criticism to every Godzilla movie and found holes there are at least things to overlook those holes for. Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla has no such luxery. I think it was Norman Englund who reviewed the movie back in the early 2000s and phrased it, "it's a movie that fails on almost every level of production." I can't disagree because there's so little to walk away with except new toy sales.
I'm intrigued about the blood bullet however. When did Yuki use it on SpaceGodzilla? I don't recall that at all. I'm willing to give a pass to an important plot point in this movie that actually did return. But I know for fact the Project-T Godzilla conroller plot device was pretty much dropped by the middle of the film with no real payoff or point.
And giving a monster an origin is fine, but overexplaining that when there are so many holes in other things that deserve attention is not. It's wasted energy that screenwriters could've given to things that needed expanding. These are still professional filmmakers we're talking about and to show a level of incompetence of this magnitude, for any movie, is unacceptable.
Incredible, that is really what Godzilla looks like.
the spines are still smaller than the trailer ones but still a good try.
