That is a pretty creative story.

I really like this idea. The mystical origin of Godzilla, who is created by the souls of the killed soldiers is great, but in my opinion doesen't macht the realism of the movie.

God no. It was stupid in GMK and while it would make more sense in this setting it's still stupid to have souls reincarnate as a radioactive monster

I think keeping it as the wrath of nature incarnated as a living being is enough for me.

Gee wiz what a story and a differnt one too, but I don't think that will happen.

Anything involving spirits, gods, mythical creatures, or supernatural happenings is going to be related to or grounded in fantasy, simple as that.

Since that's not part of the realism of Legendary's Godzilla design, let alone something that would bring a realistic human reaction, Legendary will never use it. Still, for GMK it was a stupid plot, but it gave us a new look at Godzilla and gave us one of his coolest designs as far as suits are concerned save for the hunchback. Thankfully they fixed it in the toys, but still, the suit looked like a Godzilla version of Quasimodo with that hump on his shoulders.

But yeah, such an idea will NEVER be part of the realism that Legendary is going for.

@Kyero

When you make assumptions, you make an ass out of you and me. We don't know exactly WHAT is Godzilla's origin in this new film, he could very well be mildly supernatural.

Besides, realism in design does not equal realism in functin or origin.

So yeah, I'm glad you know exactly what Legendary is going for, must be nice being a know it all.

I don't get fans wanting to tone Godzilla down so its more appealing to other audiences. My opinion is F**K other audiences. I don't like the crap they like, who cares if they like what I like? I'm tired of Godzilla fans wanting something that appeals to everyone-- if it appealed to everyone it wouldn't be Godzilla. 

And as far as GMK's 'stupid story'. Every Godzilla movie has an outlandish stupid story, including the first one. If you get to the nitty gritty, the first one has one of the most nonsensical outlandish stories ever, with a special, crazy over powered unrealistic weapon. So lets not split hairs on what is stupid-- because at the end of the day, a movie about anything over 300ft tall not exploding under its own weight is silly and stupid and unrealistic and that is what makes it great. 

Also "realism" is a subjective term and it's pretty much irrelivant if there's giant monsters involved which is infact a fantasy in itself which their origins and function can be flexable regardless whether it's mystical or not.

@Akagi 

I don't think you can put angry souls reincarnating an atomic monster on the same level of splitting a oxygen atom(hmm splitting atoms to make some deadly effect where have I heard that before?) 

@DURP00

I can put it on the same level. Because Oxygen atoms do not 'split' in the same fashion as purposed in Godzilla 54. For example, Oxygen atoms aren't quite the same as say Hydrogen atoms-- which we all know have a huge part in a THERMONUCLEAR BOMB. Hell, the H-bomb itself is a FUSION based weapon and not a fission based weapon at all.

We know spliting oxygen atoms simply does not create anything remotely similar to what the Oxygen Destroyer did. We know that a fission based atomic bomb or fusion based thermonuclear bomb are not as easily created by simply 'splitting atoms'. Its a bit more complicated than that-- particularly in the area of fusion weapons.

AT BEST-- the 'science' used in Gojira is psuedo science fiction, at best, silly and basically science fantasy. Making it as plausible as EVIL VENGEFUL SPIRITS forming into a giant demonic monster. So yes, I will compare it. Its all silly poppycock. 

The 1954 film is not DEVOID of silliness or stupidity-- I really wish fans would stop over-appreciating it and glorifying it. 

@Akagi No, there is no way in hell splitting atoms to dissolve things is even CLOSE to as unrealistic as evil vengeful spirits forming into a giant demonic monster. It may be pseudo-science, but that is not nearly the same as flat-out fantasy. And saying that something being scientifically impossible makes it "pseudo science fiction" is laughable, nearly all sci-fi is based on pseudo-science. And, in Kyero's defense, saying Legendary's Godzilla will not have any mystical elements doesn't make him a know-it-all, it's just common sense.

@Linkzilla

Educated guesses boasted by paumpus attitudes such as Kyero's are not 'common sense' they are educated guesses. If they were common sense, we wouldn't call them educated guesses. Though I agree with him, Legendary will probably tone the hell out of those concepts down, I'm not going to be a pretentious asshat about it walk around spouting my 'common sense' as gospel.

As for 'plausibility', if something is impossible, its not plausible. MEANING that creating an oxygen destroyer via splitting oxygen atoms is impossible and thus it can't be plausible. Plausible is assuming you can make a jump over a big GAP, or that you can eat twenty eggs. You might or might not be able to do it. Impossible is when something is FRICKEN IMPOSSIBLE.

GMK actually goes to great lengths to scientifically explain things. They go as far to say souls are electricity that is bound by the earth's magnetic field, including stones and such. We know for a fact that THOUGHTS and FEELINGS come from our brain, and thought are nueral electrical impulses that spark in our brain-- these impulses, like all electricity is bound by the magnetic field of the planet. These are scientific facts buckaroo and have every basis in reality where as 'oxygen destroyers' do NOT.

Godzilla and the other monsters 'absorbed' this electricity.

So in other words, Kaneko did his homework. Kaneko even tried to explain fantastical elemets like souls, afterlife, and giant monsters through science. 

Gojira 54 only ever said Godzilla was a dinosaur, that was it. No explenation of anything.

"Educated guesses boasted by paumpus attitudes such as Kyero's are not 'common sense' they are educated guesses. If they were common sense, we wouldn't call them educated guesses. Though I agree with him, Legendary will probably tone the hell out of those concepts down, I'm not going to be a pretentious asshat about it walk around spouting my 'common sense' as gospel."

Yeah, sorry, I meant something more along the lines of "educated guess," not common sense. I actually kept thinking in my head that "common sense" isn't really the right term, but I couldn't think of anything else. My point was that there is virtually zero chance of there being any mystical elements in Godzilla 2014 due to the realistic tone they are going for. Sure, there inherently has to be plenty of scientifically impossible things about it, but it will almost certainly stay within the realm of sci-fi, not fantasy.

"As for 'plausibility', if something is impossible, its not plausible. MEANING that creating an oxygen destroyer via splitting oxygen atoms is impossible and thus it can't be plausible. Plausible is assuming you can make a jump over a big GAP, or that you can eat twenty eggs. You might or might not be able to do it. Impossible is when something is FRICKEN IMPOSSIBLE."

I never said the oxygen destroyer was remotely plausible, I fully acknowldged that it was scientifically implausible, I just said that pseudo-science (i.e. something that just sounds sciencey and is vaguely based on some sort of scientific concept, such as splitting atoms, but is really scientifically impossible) is closer to realism than mystical things like spirits, which are just flat-out fantasy.

"GMK actually goes to great lengths to scientifically explain things. They go as far to say souls are electricity that is bound by the earth's magnetic field, including stones and such. We know for a fact that THOUGHTS and FEELINGS come from our brain, and thought are nueral electrical impulses that spark in our brain-- these impulses, like all electricity is bound by the magnetic field of the planet. These are scientific facts buckaroo and have every basis in reality where as 'oxygen destroyers' do NOT. Godzilla and the other monsters 'absorbed' this electricity."

Wait, are you actually trying to say that evil vengeful spirits forming into a giant demonic monster is more realistic than the oxygen destroyer now? I'm sorry, but, regardless of any religous or spiritual beliefs you may have (and I'm not trying to say that your beliefs are wrong), absolutely nothing to do with souls are scientific facts and definietly have no basis in any kind of logic. I could go some detail about why the explanation in GMK isn't remotely in the realm of possiblity, but I think I've made my point well enough. Now that you've told me about that bit of information, though, which I'd never heard before (was it only in the original Japanese dialogue?), I will admit that it could be considered pseudo-science and not just mysticism, putting it on roughly the same level of "realism" as the oxygen destroyer, but certainly not any more plausible.

"So in other words, Kaneko did his homework. Kaneko even tried to explain fantastical elemets like souls, afterlife, and giant monsters through science. Gojira 54 only ever said Godzilla was a dinosaur, that was it. No explenation of anything."

Gojira 54 did explain that the oxygen destroyer dissolves living things by splitting the oxygen atoms in their bodies, which is impossible, but splitting atoms is no less grounded in reality than neural electrical impulses and the Earth's magnetic field, they're all real scientific concepts that that the filmmakers used to explain away impossible things, which isn't a bad thing at all.

I'm sorry, most of this argument was my fault for using unclear phrasing and not communicating my point very well. Hopefully I've stated what I meant more clearly now.

@ AKAGI - You obviously didn't read what I wrote very well because I never made any assumptions whatsoever.

We know for a fact that Legendary isn't going to use something as fantasy based as angry souls of fallen soldiers from the war as the basis for their Godzilla. That's a fact, not an assumption.

Where was the assumption?

When you throw around accusations without paying proper attention to detail, you make an ass out of yourself. I don't have to do anything. You're proving that you're a disgruntled and angry individual who's got no basis for their arguments and you're just here to pick fights.

If I am making any assumptions, and I doubt anyone would say this is anything but face (except you): You've got some issues pal.

Insecurity and a bad attitude are things most people avoid, though I think they're entertaining. If you think you got to me, you're wrong. You only made me laugh at how pathetic your behavior has been throughout this thread and you've completely made a fool out of yourself by being a total hypocrite and making assumptions about the information others have posted.

You obviously don't know nearly as much as you think you do, and if knowing the facts makes me a know it all then I accept your compliment because yes, so far I do know everything about the information surrounding Legendary's Godzilla that's been released so far. I make no claims about knowing everything about the film as a whole because I'm not claiming to be a part of Legendary or making any claims about having "anonymous" sources like other people have who turned out to be full of crap. Do you know why I can take your 'know it all' jab as a compliment? Because I pay attentin to detail and I know how to separate fact from fiction.

You obviously do not, at least not yet.

If you want to pick a fight, make sure it's one you can win. You're obviously a disgruntled child, or at least a younger fan who has some severe anger issues similar to those of a child. Grow up a little bit and then come back to debate with me. Right now, you've got nothing.