Godzilla vs. Kong hasn't even released in Japan yet and already passed $400 million worldwide!

gvk realeased in japan on march 14...I think

No, it's may.

Also if it does well in Japan it'll probably be the highest grossing MonsterVerse movie and don't forget it hasn't released in Europe yet.

And the monsterverse movies seem to have done well in Japan..

SarcasticGoji,
Yeah, it's a good thing ticket prices for Hollywood movies are normally pretty high in Japan, otherwise the movies really aren't doing much better than the Millennium series.

Most countries rank their films' success by attendance instead of box office though. The Monsterverse movies have made a fair bit of money, but otherwise have been somewhat lacking attendance-wise. I suppose they do okay for Hollywood movies though:

Ah...

I probably should add, Hollywood movies don't do very well in Japan unless they're animated or a very specific franchise. (Like Star Wars or Pirates of the Caribbean.)

Most Hollywood movies made of their own IP do okay up to a point, but not normally as well as their own interpretations. (Godzilla, Pokemon.)

This was different in the 1990s when there were many more Hollywood movies than Japanese movies. But since the industry made a comeback in the 2000s, the attitude has flipped.

yeah, I can see why.

It's kinda like how the MCU and Star Wars does very well in China but not a lot of other Hollywood projects do that well in China (I could be wrong).

That’s why Millennium series ended, Right?

probably

SarcasticGoji,
The Millennium Series was in danger of ending after Megaguirus flopped, but when Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah was a marked success, Toho decided to keep soldiering on.

Godzilla: Final Wars was intended to be the final film once announced. The only way Toho would have continued is if it made an unprecedented amount of money. (Think, Shin Godzilla.) But instead it flopped, in part because Howl's Moving Castle had come out that month and Miyazaki movies become some of the highest grossing films by default.

And then we waited 10 long years for a revival.

10 long years until G'14 had a mediocre start to a pretty darn good MonsterVerse.

G14 is better than GvK. Putting it out there.

In my opinion, that is

What makes G14 superior to GVK?

I see nothing.

Well I see lots of things. The build up is great and even tho Goji is on for Ten minutes, it feels good still.

"What makes G14 superior to GVK?"

Nuance to tone and detail - stronger characters - better writing - unique atmosphere to most blockbuster films - music - minimalistic approach the experimented with the suspense of the film (whether it worked or not) - Fukushima imagery - adherence to ideas and themes inspired by the original film and literature such as parallels between Ford and Godzilla relating back to themes by Joseph Campbell and  even John Bunyan - quite a good deal actually.

Eh, the human characters are dull.

Except for Seriwaza.

I saw more nuance in the Russell family in KOTM to be totally frank.

And let me guess, GVK is your least favorite movie in the MonsterVerse due to "Mindless fun and nothing else"

If so, BRUH

He actually praised it more than KoTm, (to my knowledge) Unlike KOTM it wasn’t trying to be anything more.

Gimme the knowledge please.

and this image is a symbol of our arguments....

Me and Gman's many MonsterVerse debates to be more frank.

Have u compared his comments?
I don’t suppose you’ve seen many of the KoTM

Comments

I've seen.

I want his GVK praise....

I meant praise, if you compare it to his GVK comments. Not actual praise, just technically praise

oh ok then

I mean, it is mindless fun and nothing else. Frankly, I just need more to go back to and 2014 provides more working thought.

And, frankly, I'd rather have dull ones than flat out bad ones.

Well, Imma watch The showa series more, I still need to finish some.

SarcasticGoji,
'Tis the right move.

Was Madison flat out bad? No, she was great (in KOTM) then went to mediocre in GVK (sadly)

But GVK gave a coherent story, great action and VFX, and there were human characters that could've been good.  At least they tried this time...

sonictiger

In due respect I think GvK was the film that didn’t try with the characters. KOTM had some interesting arcs that could have been done better.

Yeah

Agreed with SarcasticGoji in that the effort in characters for GvK was borderline nonexistent. I would definitely say 2014 was much more generous "try". For as short lived as Joe Brody was, he was easily the Monsterverse's most impassioned and relatable character.

I beg to differ on relatable.

Bryan Cranston's Joe Brody for me will always be the most relatable and memorable character of the Monsterverse. Hands down - best performance of the series. Hard to debate that one.