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Yay! New stuff is coming!

Maybe they’ll do something similar to Mothra vs. Godzilla where the Imago form dies but the larvae finish the battle. 

I would be extremely surprised if they didn't show her larva form

Kentucky?! Never would have thought that at all!

we all wanted him to win:(

^... a rebel without a cause. jk :p

I just want a fare rematch between the 2 monsters. Toho gave kong a strange ability to combat Godzilla(who was kicking kongs hairy ass up and down Mount Fuji, literally). I just want to see a rematch. Kong clearly won back in 1963, but I don't want to open that conversation again about my theories on the film.

how much do you think I can get selling one of my kidneys? I need walk in money to buy stuff at the store.

Why must I tear up all the time when he shows any of his art work?

As much as I would love to see a crossover between the two franchises, I just cant see it looking good. If they do it then they might go cheap and ask you to forgo the possibility of a stupid sci-fi monster movie mash up than have 2 smart and still entertaining franchises going on at the same time. It might ask too much of the audience to go along with it.

Not trying to say im against the crossover. Im trying to say if we have this "orgy", then we might wake up after its all done and ask why we wanted to have this mess in the first place. 

She will probably show up in adult form. There is so much going on in the movie the way it is I can see little of the larva form of Mothra.

Good question, I've been wondering the same thing. The cave paintings suggest an already-adult Mothra, but our official first look at Mothra in Godzilla 2 showed two Larva on either side of her. So, perhaps we will get to see Larva form at some poit.

I don't think its the hint of Megalon, but its a cool video.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with that, but it's still a neat video.

Looks more to me like teasing the metamorphosis of a wriggly worm thingy into an imposing yet beautiful new creature.

A.k.a. Mothra, from a wriggly worm thingy into an imposing yet beautiful new moth goddess.

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Probably not.

"Hey God, it's me. I know we haven't talked in awhile, but I was wondering if you could do me a solid..."

If this movie really will be filmed, then it necessarily to have the Mechagodzilla.

I love the idea, but please keep them separated. The timeline doesn't fit in each other films.

No, keep them separated, but if Jet Jaguar appears then take my money.

IMO... they should remain separate entities. I think an introduction to Gamera in the Pac Rim franchise.. fits better than Godzilla. besides.. The two are not compatible.. given the themes of the two franchises... not to mention the timelines are way off. 

If Godzilla had started with the Pac Rim concept in the background.. then maybe.. but they've already built a story line around Godzilla and at this point.. it would be too late to cross the two. 

Oh man, imagine a three way brawl between the Precursors' Kaiju, the Jaegers, and the classic Kaiju like Godzilla!

Absolutely bonkers!

I don’t see a crossover working very well but I’d love to see Godzilla in a Pacific Rim movie, unrelated to Legenday’s. 

^Exactly. Kick logic out and make the impossible possible! Suspension of Disbelief is Science Fiction's most powerful asset. 

REALISM CAN GO SIT IN THE CORNER! GIANT ROBOT PUNCHING TIME IS ALL THE TIME!

"But, muhrealism!"

;P

Please do this!!  Thejaegers would be the new jet jaguar. And the would face off against the alien race itself n their home land.  Bring the fight to them.  Kinda like how they did in monster zero. Just with giant robots and special effects.  #moremonstermoviesplease

Hopefully this happens, seeing how these films will all likely have good profits, I don't see why the companies wouldn't do it. 

Uh... YES!!!!

Honestly, this idea is not nearly as nuts as it sounds.  Rights and licensing issues notwithstanding, a crossover of the CHARACTERS, not the universes, is highly doable.  The easy solution is to simply insert a NEW Godzilla, unrelated to Legendary's version of the character or any other that currently exists, into a third Pacific Rim film, a sequel to Pacific Rim: Uprising, or potentially a fourth film if the series proves to be that franchise-able.  Godzilla could act as the ultimate kaiju threat to the world, the PPDC and the Jaeger program, a literal "King of the Monsters".  He could even be redesigned to feature the bio-luminescence seen in the Pacific Rim kaiju of the first (and likely the second) film.  A few tweaks, a couple of embeleshments, and BAM!  Crossover potentiality.  

Here's another school of thought: including Godzilla might be the thing that secures us a third Pacific Rim movie.  If Uprising performs underwhelmingly, or at least not enough that the studios feel continuing the series would be profitable, the idea of bringing Godzilla in might just make a third film possible.  Godzilla is a highly marketable character, and is in the public eye in a big way these days.  Adding the marquee value of the Godzilla name to the Pacific Rim franchise might be seen as a viable way to continue it.  

The same thing almost happened to Hellboy nearly a decade ago: after middling box office for Hellboy II, the idea of having Hellboy fight more recognizable monsters like the Frankenstein Monster, Dracula, and the Wolfman in the third film was briefly discussed.  The idea was quickly dropped, and eventually the film was, too.  

In other words, the possibility of Godzilla appearing in a Pacific Rim film won't be seriously considered until Pacific Rim: Uprising hits theaters.  If it is successful enough for a third film to be considered, the possiblity of a crossover will increase both for fans, and maybe for studio executives.

Whst a time to be alive, kaiju fans. :)

Yeah, I can agree on the fact that destroyah and MechaGodzilla are the most likely monsters to appear in the monsterverse for now. The other monsters on the list are monsters that could happen if the monsterverse gets really popular.

I think the monsterverse needs to promote itself more as a universe. Most people that went to Kong skull island probably didn’t even notice that it was connected to Godzilla. I think they might be able to get people really excited about the monsterverse with Godzilla vs Kong. If not, let’s at least hope for a Godzilla 3 and a Kong 2

The King of the Monsters nailed it.

Regardless if fans think it fits with the MonsterVerse or not, Legendary isn't going to buy characters from Toho's stable that don't, at the very least, have some modicum of recognition outside the franchise. Even if people don't recognize the name "MechaGodzilla" the idea that Godzilla fights a robot doppelganger is fairly well known on some vague pop culture level.

I find it unlikely they'll pay money for Anguirus, for example, since they can just blow up their own original dinosaur-like creatures. For example, why pay for the rights to Kumonga, when you can just do what Legendary did in Skull Island?

Realistic or not MechaGodzilla is most likely based on recognition and marketability alone.

Destoroyah? I don't know. I question that character's popularity.

As much as I want other Toho monsters to show up in the Monsterverse:

A: I don't think we'll be getting anymore movies beyond Godzilla vs. Kong unless KotM and GvK are wildly successful. 

B: I'd like to see new monsters. I want new ideas and new concepts for what can be a giant monsters. The MUTOs and the Skull Crawlers were cool, but I think Legendary can really make something special if they continue to work on original creations.

I'm of the belief that if Legendary had the intention of using any monsters beyond the Big Four in the near future, they will have already licensed Mechagodzilla. He's the most marketable, and the most tempting one for Legendary to go after. Not to mention I bet Toho would have been more willing to license him to Legendary before any other monsters.

I doubt Legendary would be racing to acquire any other monsters beyond Toho's Big Five. There's little to no marquee value for them to general audiences, and licensing them from Toho could prove expensive and would likely come with a whole set of requirements and stipulations Legendary must follow. I don't think Legendary would see the need to do that if they could just create their own new monsters and not affect the films' marketability in any substantial way. If we do see any more Toho monsters beyond Mechagodzilla, it will probably only happen if Legendary extends their license beyond 2020, which at this point I personally don't see happening.

Gonna go with the majority and says MechaGodzilla is probably the most likely. Most name recognition, and fan appeal. Behind that maybe something like a baby Godzilla.

As for least likely, I think most toho monsters are never going to be seen in the monsterverse but something like Space Godzilla is just one I can't see any situation it gets grabbed over.

well if we are going to see Mechagodzilla in the monsterverse, it has to be after 2020 (maybe in 2022). maybe the pacific rim franchise might have ended by then and could make way for Mechagodzilla.

And the problem of the laws of physics in this universe isn’t really a problem in my opinion. This is still a movie, they don’t have to make it 100% realistic. They just have to get as realistic as possible. For example Godzilla would die just because of it’s size and weight. They can brake some rules.

The point I was making was not that Mecha-G couldn't be made to fit.

My point was that there's really no point in doing so. The Monsterverse currently has established itself as a grounded Hollywood take on the giant monster genre, based around larger-than-life animals from the Earth and the stars that threaten to upset the stability of our real world.

The Pacific Rim universe has established itself as a crazy Hollywood take on the giant mech VS. giant monster genre, based around larger-than-life robots taking on larger-than-life giant monsters that come from an alternate universe in a world where the laws of physics have to sit in the corner for giant robot punching action.

They both have distinct identities, and thus distinct expectations. Both are slowly expanding their horizons into subgenres, but that sort of stuff requires time and incremental changes to make it work without resulting in audience alienation.

Before a popular and outlandish Toho classic like Mecha-G can come to the West, the West needs to make his new home comfortable for him. Basically, the Monsterverse would need to introduce elements of soft- sci-fi over a few films to make the jump to Mecha-G a smooth one.

I hope that you know that the problem of agile and speed is not a problem of the robot, it’s the giant size of it all. And for the problem of it looking like a robot Godzilla is by taking the Origen of kiryu and making the robot around a Godzilla skeleton. the skeleton that could be used for MechaGodzilla is literally in the first 10 minutes of the 2014 movie.

Yea but Mechagodzilla's logic doesn't make sense not because of realism or anything like that its because why would anyone build a slow, not agile, Goji like robot when they can build fast, agile humaniod robot?

you have some fair points, but legendary can always rewrite their backstories. they did that for Godzilla and probably for the other monsters to make them more realistic.

what you're saying about pacific rim and mechs isn't really fair. giant robots have been explored in many other franchises (power rangers, Voltron, transformers, the iron giant, etc) so why can't the monsterverse. btw Mechagodzilla is one of if not the most iconic Godzilla enemy. legendary just has to make him seem fitting in this universe and I believe they could do that

 And I don't think popularity is a big problem when we are talking about these monsters. the Muto's and skullcrawlers are completely new monsters, so they don't have any popularity at all. the things that make people come to see these movies isn't because the monsters are familiar, it's because they are interesting. the monsters have to stand out and be unique. mechagodzilla, battra and mecha-king Ghidorah are unique monsters and could possibly work in this new franchise.

For the time being, monsters that are a bit less fantastical are the flavour of the the Monsterverse currently. However, they ARE expanding into "maybe magic, maybe mundane" territory and more outlandish animalistic monsters with the release of Kong: Skull Island and its post-release supplementary material, as well as the addition of Mothra.

Personally I want to see the Monsterverse continue past 2020 and be successful, give the West the stable giant monster franchise that it hasn't had in forever so that Japan can't hog the genre to itself. With that in mind, based on this predication, let's move on.

Anguirus is a sure bet, for sure. He's popular and easy to introduce. Simple. Destroyah is also a good bet, albeit maybe not quite as much as Anguirus, with a still relatively easy background to implement and a decent amount of popularity.

The rest of the monsters either lack the popularity or the background to truly fit into the Monsterverse currently. For example, despite how popular Mecha-Godzilla is, he just does not fit whatsoever, not to mention that Pacific Rim already has the giant mech thing down pat. Their universe is the one that makes giant robots to punch giant monsters, not the one we're talking about. Theirs has Humanity triumphantly winning against all odds, but the Monsterverse is about how screwed Humanity would be were it not for others to maintain the balance.

In a similar but different vein, a monster like Varan is easily quite usable with his background, but his popularity is....... well, let's just say he's not exactly a major franchise name.