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Monster X IIGodzilla 2014 Forumnew idea about the new monstersOct 18, 2013
I think it's really probable but I don't think it's on purpose. I think the monsters come from human error we make mistakes quite often and maybe we made 1 big enough to spawn our own destruction.... Till Godzilla comes in and kicks their asses lol.
ReplyGojira 2014Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 end credits kaiju revealOct 18, 2013
Guys don't worry at some point in the new franchise there going to have to bring back a classic monster.
ReplyGojira 2014Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 18, 2013
Personally I want Godzilla's orgin to be a mystery and only get hints of his orgin but don't out right tell us what he is like they did in the 1998 remake.
ReplySamzilla 14Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
Um, did you ever watch Godzilla 84? Or Godzilla vs Destroyer where Godzilla fucking DIES? Seemed pretty dark and serious to me.
But I think I get it now, you just don't like the fact that all the space travel mystic bollocks can't be crammed in there which sounds rather hypocritical of you considering you dislike Mothra. A Godzilla film does not need to be mired in the unreal.
And yes, I wouldn''t have given two shits if the time travelling aspect of Godzilla vs King Ghidorah would have been omitted since that was a pretty hackneyed and confusing plot device anyway.
ReplyDurp004Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
REALLY???? I MEAN REALLY? LOL watch the heisei era, time travel, mysticism, human souls in monsters, a giant robotic kaiju, monsters from space. All of that was part of the heisei, and all of it are things that won't and can't be included in this new series thanks to the stupid realism tag that has been placed on in. You seem to associate fun with child movies, and that it 100% wrong. Pacific rim had a fun tone and didn't cater only to children. Most of the millennium godzilla movies had a fun tone. Even GMK had states of disbelief.
Did I ask for a campy child's film? No, for the third time, I asked for 1 that acknowledges it's a godzilla film and only a certain extent of realism can be had.
That's why I love and praise the heisei era so much. It had a dark and serious tone but never once tried to be anything but godzilla, and that included all the b movie aspects.(already listed) Would you have enjoyed Godzilla vs King ghidorah as much if time travel was thrown out? How about mothra just being a mutant moth?
ReplyDurp004Godzilla ForumIs Godzilla 1985 the best?Oct 18, 2013
Probably not the best move but it spawned the best Godzilla era. Since it was the only era with recurring characters and an actual continuation.
ReplyDurp004Godzilla 2014 ForumThe violence of G-2014Oct 18, 2013
Since fantasy monsters aren't viewed the same as real things I don't think it'd be impossible to see the kaiju do quite a lot of damage to eachother with the film still maintaining a PG13 rating.
I mean look at Godzilla vs Gigan. anguirus and godzilla had blood sturt out at at least 1 point of the movie and a PG rating was still kept
ReplyKaijusaurusGodzilla ForumIs Godzilla 1985 the best?Oct 18, 2013
I wouldn't really say any film is the best. It's all opinions. To you Godzilla 1984 is your favorite. To me Godzilla Final Wars is my favorite.
ReplySamzilla 14Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
Sorry, gonna have to say something here, but you DURP004 wan't to see a dark, seriouse yet "fun" Godzilla film?
That to me sounds about as stupid as you find the plot for GMK.
Also, I think it's bollocks to say that Godzilla only became famous because of his campy commercialization. Ever concidered that the popularity of the first film(and they Reymond Burr remake) were the reason TOHO wanted to market the beast? Overall the Heisei series of films has proven to be the most popular among Godzilla fans. That's right, the series that re-established Godzilla as a force of nature and hardly catered to the campy oddysees of the Showa era.
In fact, I'd say the most popular Godzilla films of all time are the ones that took a more serious tone(including GMK whether you like that film or not DURP004). The most popular Showa are pretty much Destroy All Monsters and maybe Godzilla vs King Kong It's also worth mentioning that it was most of the Showa film that tanked the most at the box office.
And I don't see how Godzilla being put alongside recent comic book films that took a similar tone is a bad thing. No, the audience is ready for Godzilla as he should be. If you wan't some campy mess of a plot with Godzilla action thrown in the mix then watch Final Wars or something.
Now as for my concerns for the film it's self, as I mentioned on the recent interview vid, I'm worried we'll get another film like Monsters again where the focus was mainly human drama.
ReplyKaiju_Groupie44Godzilla 2014 Forumwhat enemies you think will appears in the movieOct 18, 2013
[img]http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/4/16198-2901-18042-1-godzilla.jpg[/img]That does kind of suk so when Gareth Edwards hopfully does Destroy All Monsters he can use at least some monsters but it has to be good for Toho to say yes to toho monsters.Oh and my monster is probably Ghilaron th red monster in the Godzilla comic book.
ReplyKaiju_Groupie44Godzilla ForumFavourite Godzilla suit?Oct 18, 2013
MosuGoji and KinGoji both of them as a kid i was attracted to them both but not in gay way .Showa era is da BOMB!
ReplyMiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
Well said REGGIE1138. Glad to see others on here are ready for a serious take on Godzilla. Not the "fun" and "cheesiness " that others on here are hoping for.
ReplyReggie1138Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
I really don't think the realism part is being totally understood here. I believe that Gareth will manage to keep certain elements of Godzilla fully intact. Fire breathing, indestructible, enormous size,etc. I believe that He wants to show the total chaos that the arrival of Godzilla would represent. Countless loss of life, billions in damage, world resources running dangerously thin. Countless wounded and homeless, environmental issues i.e. radiation exposure. Issues that have not always been given the proper weight or seriousness. Besides the original of course. I'm ready to see this taken to a whole new level. It's about damn time.
ReplyFordBrodyLover99Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
I have only had one fear throughout this, and im gonna have to be honest, my only fear was that it would be too dark. But thankfully, all the trailers and interviews have made it clear it wont be. And there needs to be campiness, and im more than sure there will be campyness. This movie isnt dark, its that perfect combination i call;
Godzilla.
ReplyFordBrodyLover99Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 18, 2013
He`ll be Godzilla.
ReplyTheGMan123Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
Well,if the possibility of a "Destroy All Monsters" sequel remains strong,then we can get our monster brawling action satisfied then. However,in order to set up the overall power of Godzilla,I think a more serious and foreboding tone is necessary. We need to understand that a more serious tone is probably the best way to showcase Godzilla as someone you don't f**k with. Also,in terms of realism,this article here http://www.angelfire.com/ego/g_saga/kaijubiologyarticle.html is quite insightful with regards to the possibility of Kaiju like Godzilla.
ReplyDurp004Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 18, 2013
MIKETHEG7453 sorry to burst your bubble, and everyone who is on this dark, realistic hype train, but that stupid campy fun is what made godzilla. Godzilla's been in 28 movies and all of them except arguably the original didn't try to be realistic. Their tones differed throughout but they never tried to be a realistic movie and were all campy fun to a point.
This realism thing that's sweeping through hollywood needs to go away look at Man of Steel. Oh let's do a realistic superman. What happened? It did well at the box office but had average to negative reviews for the most part.
Some things don't need realism attached to them. A Giant radioactive firebreathing dinosaur that is indistructable that fights aliens, robots, and mutants is 1 of those things, and to give it realism and grit will only further it from the already established and expected character that's been developed in the past 60 years. A serious tone is fine, but throwing realism with godzilla has so many possible flaws I can't name them all.
The only reason the grit and realism worked so well in the first is that the director, and cast had actually lived through and experienced the thing they were basing the monster off. They saw first hand the destruction, and aftermath and were able to make a movie with a tone that reflected that. Can a director that has no real prior credentials and no experience first hand with what he's basing the monster off pull off the same well done atmosphere and tone? Possibly sure but we can't really argue things we don't know.
I didn't ask for a child's movie like Godzilla's revenge, or Godzilla vs Megalon, I asked that the director keep in mind this is Godzilla and he has been built through that campyness an fun, and if they truly want to not stray from the character then they will realize what 96% of his movies have done so far and see some amount of fun should be included. If you disagree whatever but last time I checked the title of this was "Your biggest worry for G-14" it's not "MIKETHEG7453 biggest worry for G14 and what he wants it to be"
ReplyGodzillaFan87Godzilla ForumFavourite Godzilla suit?Oct 18, 2013
^^^^ I second that. The GhidoGoji/BioGoji is my favorite suit of all time. That is exactly what I think of when I hear the word Godzilla. A close second is the 84 Goji. That was the very first movie I ever saw of Godzilla and I had to of been only 4 or 5 and was hooked ever since. The Millennium suit comes in third, specifically the MireGoji suit. Anyone wants to reference suits, here is the link I used.
http://becominggodzilla.com/official-toho-suits/
ReplyGODZILLAMYCUZZINGodzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 17, 2013
YOUR ON POINT MIKE IM WITH U 100 PERCENT. DID PPL WANNA SEE HIM SHUFFLE HIS FEET BOXING AGAIN? HAHAH LEAVE THAT FOR PART 2 PPL
ReplyGODZILLAMYCUZZINGodzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 17, 2013
IM WITH KRIS IF THE TRAILER IS AS DARK AS THE FILM REALLY IS IMA BE PISSED. GODZILLA =ATOM BOMB REMEMBER FRIENDS? WTF IS CAMPY OR FUN ABOUT THAT? HAHAHAHAH./....NOTHING...theanswer is nothing
ReplyBCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forumwhat enemies you think will appears in the movieOct 17, 2013
lol, you're obviously new to the forums. Welcome, and make yourself at home. This topic has been discussed numerous times. Like an unbelievable amount of times. I think the most recent related post was about four days ago. Legendary has stated, explicitly I might add, that all monsters, save Godzilla, will be original.
Now, if you're talking about a potential sequel, then I'd have to say either Gigan, Ghidorah, or Bagan.
But, if you're talking about the 2014 movie, please familiarize yourself with previously made discussions. Your topic may or may not have been discussed recently.
Again, welcome to the forum.
Signed,
This Dumb Ass.
ReplyMiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 Forumwhat enemies you think will appears in the movieOct 17, 2013
How many times has this been discussed??????Really???? NO TOHO MONSTERS. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND PRINT????
ReplyMiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 17, 2013
hey DURPOO4!! Are you freaking serious??? Your worried about this movie being to "realistic"? And not enough "fun"?? Look man if you want stupid campy fun , watch Godzilla vs Megalon or Godzilla's revenge. there is plenty of "fun" in those movies. Did you see the trailer? Is there anything fun about bodies lying all around near a smashed train? this movie isn't for you then...stick to the 70's Godzilla films. The rest of us are ready to see Godzilla presented the way he was always supposed to be. The most apocalyptic force that has ever walked the earth. And I don't think that makes for a "fun" situation. Time for people to grow up and realize that the time for nonsense is over. Thank you Gareth Edwards for making the most "realistic" Godzilla movie ever.
ReplyGl78064Godzilla 2014 ForumBryan Cranston and Elizabeth Olsen InterviewOct 17, 2013
Thank God Bryan Cranston said it was about "nuclear energy" because I was afraid that they would do something about the ice caps melting. Good thing they're remaining true to the original! :D
ReplyDC67Godzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 17, 2013
User "Zilla_Fan" = Gareth?
:)
ReplyChrisGodzilla 2014 ForumBryan Cranston and Elizabeth Olsen InterviewOct 17, 2013
Thanks for posting this up! I'll make a mention of it on the homepage now.
Reply**Al**Godzilla 2014 ForumBryan Cranston and Elizabeth Olsen InterviewOct 17, 2013
[url=http://youtu.be/9eHQPMbzcvg]BRYAN CRANSTON AND ELIZABETH OLSEN INTERVIEW.[/url]
ReplyKaijusaurusGodzilla 2014 Forumwhat enemies you think will appears in the movieOct 17, 2013
Only new enemies are being used in this film. No Toho monsters.
ReplyG. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumFavourite Godzilla suit?Oct 17, 2013
My favorite design is the Heisei design, specifically from the Gido-Goji from [i]Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah[/i]. Probably followed by the [i]GMK[/i] suit and the Mosu-Goji from [i]Godzilla vs. Mothra[/i].
Didn't really care for any of the other Millennium suits personally.
ReplyBCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 17, 2013
Ah, yeah. You're right. I was thinking overall, and I didn't remember Edwards saying "he" until you brought it up.
ReplyGreenManGodzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 17, 2013
Gareth and crew have repeatedly referred to Godzilla as 'he' in interviews.
Godzilla is male.
ReplySamzilla 14Godzilla ForumToho Plans for G? Oct 17, 2013
Hm, I geuss thatdidn't extend to the animated series which had plenty of other monsters included, and was actually closer to the real Godzilla then the 98 film ever was.
ReplyBCrockett94Godzilla ForumFavourite Godzilla suit?Oct 17, 2013
I'd have to say the GMK suit. The suit used in G x MG, and Tokyo SOS, are a close second.
ReplyBCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 17, 2013
Can you prove that? Have you seen Godzilla's genitalia? No? I'm also pretty sure that TOHO producers and directors have made the claim that some Godzillas are male, some are female, and some are left ambiguous.
ReplyTheGMan123Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 17, 2013
Well,I'm hoping that the scientist characters develop their own theories for his origin,but at the same time I don't really want it to be crystal clear exactly which theory is right (so long as it isn't something convoluted and stupid).
ReplyAnguirusFan01Godzilla ForumIf onlyOct 17, 2013
Keeping Godzilla vs. Ghost Godzilla, and keeping Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah, giant monsters all out attack be about Anguirus and... that other monster... who ever he was.
ReplyAnguirusFan01Godzilla ForumWhat Made You a Godzilla Fan?Oct 17, 2013
Well, back in 2009, I was a huge fan of 'The Land Before Time.' (Don't blame me, I was only 7!) I learned about this T-rex named 'Red-Claw' and I read that he used the roar of 'The American Godzilla' I was like, "What the heck is a Godzilla?" So, I searched Godzilla on Google, now, I'm addicted. I also originally thought that Zilla was the real Godzilla back then, it's when I started studying him that I found out about the real king.
ReplyG. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumWorst Godzilla movies ever!Oct 17, 2013
[i]Having him be vengeful souls would be fine if they didn't also go with the Radiated dinosaur. Having both, but not being clear on which it is was a dumb idea. If he's the souls leave it at that, if he's the radiated dinosaur then there. You can't throw both in the mix when they are 2 completely different things and then not be clear as to which he is.[/i]
I don't really understand this logic. Godzilla IS a radiated dinosaur, but what he stands for and symbolizes is typically something different. This is like saying it's okay for Godzilla to only be a force of nature, but not a dinosaur. That doesn't make any sense. The issue is that Godzilla has always been used to represent more than what he is. Simply saying he should've only been a mutated dinosaur dumbs down the character. It's not fair to either fans or filmmakers to make him so one dimensional.
[i]There was so rivalry between Ghidorah and Godzilla in that move as Godzilla was always winning. There was never 1 second that it even seemed Ghidorah had the upper hand. Giving some1 a new role isn't necessarily a good idea if it doesn't work and this one didn't. Putting in 2 popular monsters who don't fit the plot over the originals is a very dumb idea from a story telling standpoint. Sure it made no money, but at the expense of 2 known monsters getting dragged through the mud, and put in roles they didn't fit.[/i]
Not true. When King Ghidorah gained the ability to fly he launched an energy blast that scarred Godzilla's neck and gave General Tachibana the edge to drill through. He also dragged Godzilla underwater and was smothering him until one of the Satsuma subs accidentally fired a missile into King Ghidorah's face. So there was easily screen time where King Ghidorah had an edge on Godzilla. Granted the roles may have not fit (although Mothra has always been a mystical creature), but Kaneko made the most of it by building King Ghidorah up as the top guardian beast. Besides, it's not the first time King Ghidorah has had a vastly different origin. The Heisei King Ghidorah and [i]Mothra 3[/i] King Ghidorah have very little in common with the Showa version. Not that the fight is what makes the rivalry so intense. King Ghidorah was the last of the beasts Godzilla took on and he kept coming back for more.
[i]This movie tried to do too many things. Throw in mysticism while not being clear about it. Throwing in the most overused Godzilla enemies in yet another movie despite plot and director views going against it, and trying to honor the original with a sacrifice without actually sacrificing the character and having Godzilla die in the stupidest way thus far, granted his hearts still beating in the end despite just being a heart and having no blood to direct, but just overall so many problems with this movie. If I saw 0 other Godzilla movies and watched it then I probably wouldn't have had as much of a problem with it but as some one that's seen all of them this was underwhelming especially as a movie that it hailed as 1 of the best.[/i]
I have to disagree with a lot of the final assessments here. While the movie has some flaws they're certainly not enough to overshadow what it does well. Granted Toho's decision to use their most popular monsters in this was crude, but hardly a deal breaker. I don't, however, believe Kaneko was ever trying to "honor" the original film with a sacrifice by General Tachibana. If that were the case he would've sacrificed him, otherwise there's nothing there to assume that was the original intent.
The thing is, as a person who has also seen the entire series, I felt [i]GMK[/i] was very refreshing. The Heisei series hasn't aged very well and those same stories were practically being revamped by the Millennium series which failed to be as creative as [i]GMK[/i]. [i]GMK[/i] took risks that [i]G2K[/i], [i]Megaguirus[/i] and the [i]Kiryu[/i] movies didn't. It dared to do things that might piss off fans at the expense of telling a fresh story in the series. It paid off. The movie stands out of the last 30 years of redundancy. So if it's only a "middle of the pack" movie, then it's pretty high in the middle.
ReplyIncredible FulkGodzilla 2014 ForumYour biggest worry for G-2014?Oct 17, 2013
I know this film will be awesome. My main worry is how well it does in the box office. I'm scared it will be overshadowed by all the other blockbuster films coming out. Honestly, Godzilla is the ONLY film in 2014 I'm looking forward towards besides Interstellar. I'm also scared that it will suffer the same fate as Pacific Rim, where it came out on the same day of a crappy comedy. I made me so furious knowing how many people had that "I'd rather see this shitty film instead of this original yet awesome film" mentality. I think Godzilla stands a better chance cause it's a name, but still. Godzilla's time IS NOW!!!!! This is his chance to shine! Batman, Superman, and every other superheroes (looking at you Marvel, spotlight hoggers!!) already had their time in the spotlight. Now is time for the King of The Monsters to take back his throne!!! The time of the Kaiju is NOW!!!
ReplyGojira 2014Godzilla 2014 ForumWhat species do you think Godzilla will be?Oct 17, 2013
Godzilla's a boy ok thats why they call him king of the monsters not queen.
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