The whole thing with only using his breath 3 times, has been said many times too be only cause of the Muto's having an EMP which stopped his electrical pulsations too create the energy.

In the Godzilla 2 he will most definitley use it more.

Maybe, just MAYBE, if he used all his power, he could fire a spiral ray.

GorillaGodzilla,

Where on earth are you getting this whole Mutos emps affected Godzilla? Legendary has never mentioned it or proven it to be a factor. If you have links, it would be greatly appreciated.

The way I figured it was, Legendary's Godzilla would use his atomic breath as a weapon of last resort.

GIGAN923 - What an interesting question! Hmm...I would honestly say the the Spiral Ray falls outside of the more "realistic" avenue Legendary are attempting to take with their Godzilla series. The whole principle behind Godzilla's "super attack" was very, um, Tokusatsu; it worked well with the films in which it was presented as it was an element that made sense within the genre. It is expected that heroes and bad guys within the bounds of such films will sport amazing abilities and evolutions thereof. However, in Legendary's continuity, I do not believe Godzilla will sport such a capability. Of course, I very well could be quite wrong in this assumption; we very well might see a Spiral Ray in Legendary's upcoming films! Regardless, this was a very fun topic to ponder! :)

Legendary's Godzilla doesn't even shoot a 'ray' or 'beam.' His is a legitimate flame more in tune with what the early showa films were supposed to represent from what I've seen. And I think they'll stick with that and use it sparingly so that it doesn't become old, like the Heisei beam wars.

Ben, it hasn't been said by Legendary but...In a way they actually have said it.

In the Godzilla awakening book it was partially mentioned, in the Official Novel it was also mentioned. And if you look at the film it is very easily too believe.

but is godzilla awakening actually cannon though? but anyway his breath attack seems to be more of an atomic flame thrower

Which means the movie sequels will never mention/acknowledge it. The novels always delve deeper into certain things, no matter what film. Yet they will always be ignored when sequels pop up because they weren't in the original script/product, but rather a development of the current novel/comic writer's take on the story. That material will not be referencial for the writers of Godzilla 2/3. If it is, I'll gladly post an apology.

I don't call the books Canon. If Gareth Edwards hasn't confirmed it, then it's not true. It's like asking metallica what a song means. They tell me it means one thing but their record company puts a label on it and says it means something else. What do you think I'm going to go by? The band. 

The awakening comic was written by Max Borenstein, who helped write the script. Thats why i consider it canon.

Even if it is Canon, why not let that information out there under Godzillas bio? 

Since the EMP affects were not mentioned in the film I don't consider it canonical. I agree with Gigan923, that firing the atomic breath takes a lot of energy out of Godzilla. It's something to use frugally and wait for when there's a good opportunity.

That being said, I doubt we'll see the Spiral Ray in the Legendary series. I hated it in the Heisei series/Final Wars and it would be incredibly eye rolling in the new movies. Plus, Edwards seems to take most of his cues from the Showa series, so it's unlikely he's aware of it.

Is it really confirmed that this Godzilla has to use his atomic breath sparingly due to it taking up too much energy?

Also, isn't the red spiral breath used only when Godzilla gets some sort of power boost?

They're are a lot of things in Books that are canon yet not explained in the film.

Take Batman for example, the Dark Knight became a book i am pretty sure, same with the Arkham series. The whole Batman Arkham City video game became a book, and in the book some things were explained in greater detail...are they not canon?

Gorilla,
"The whole Batman Arkham City video game became a book, and in the book some things were explained in greater detail...are they not canon?"

No.

Of course we've been over this a hundred times by now. The Godzilla novel contradicts things that are in the movie and vice-versa. (Because the writer of the novel was merely interpreting his own version of the story. There's plenty in it that was not the filmmakers' decisions.) Picking and chosing elements to make your perfect, "canonical" world is the exact reason why it shouldn't be considered canon-- And I don't consider it canon. Bringing it into the conversation means about as much to me as a blank post and shall not be considered seriously.

ZillaJrKaijuKing,
There is no confirmation that he uses it sparingly due to energy, but it's likely in the film-- Or even no less likely than the silly EMP babble. I think the idea that his atomic breath uses a lot of energy is in line with Edwards' philosophy and makes Godzilla more interesting. Legendary Godzilla isn't a power house. He's an ancient creature, which alone should suggest something that is certainly seasoned, but not in peak condition.

And yes each time Godzilla used the Spiral Ray he had a power boost. In Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II it was from Rodan. In Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla it was from the energy emitting from the damaged SpaceGodzilla. In Godzilla vs. Destoroyah it was due to his condition, and in Godzilla: Final Wars it was because he was given the kaiser energy.

I disagree with the canon thing, I take Awakening and the novelisation as canon, which both touch on the Emp affecting Godzilla. That's two sources vs one so wouldn't it be more correct to follow that?

to the topic at hand- Legendary Godzilla is probably capable of the feat, I mean, I don't see why he wouldn't not able to do it. Will we ever see it? Maybe, it's possible.

"That's two sources vs one so wouldn't it be more correct to follow that?"

Why would that matter? The movie is the only reason those other two "sources" exist. They were meant to add on to the movie, they were meant to support and advertise the movie-- That's the only reason they were even put on the market. If we're going to start counting marketing ploys as canon then we might as well count the toys as well:

It's official. Godzilla can unhinge his top jaw from his skull to fire his nuclear breath. The toy doesn't so it's canon.

I'd rather G14 didn't have spiral ray. There's something more interesting about a weaker monster overcoming others by fighting tooth and nail to take them down, a superpowered final attack doesn't offer that.

No Godzilla has had a spiral ray off the bat. It was through the obsorption of other power sources that give it that power. I doubt Legendary has  it through, he struggles enough to use his normal breath, I don't think having a more powerful one would make things easier on him.

*Note struggle does not mean that he's having difficulty because an emp, it stands for him only using it as a last resort and having a longer charge time than the other incarnations'*

Listen, its called, "The Official Godzilla Novel." I do not see why it is not considered canon by you fellas.

the official novel contradicts certain, "Minor" sequences from the film. But for the most part follows the film closely.

I believe Godzilla used his breath on the Muto when they first met, i also believe his breath was malfunctioning. But you guys will never accept that as canon, so on that note i really have nothing else left to say.

I don't since we never saw or spoke of it in the movie(the main source of media, the source that novel was created souly to promote, the source that had the most time effort and money put into). If you can give me a good reason why it was left out I'll believe you. It doesn't make sense from a character stance, doesn't make sense from a story stance. Unless this film was so far in the red they could include all those shots of Godzilla entering and the build up that they had no money to tell an important aspect of the title character there's no reason it should be left out. 

No one who didn't read that novel walked out of that movie thinking with any valid points that Godzilla's breath was hindered in any way. That's the point, things that are cannon get told to the audience things that aren't are just there to promote sales revenue.

GorillaGodzilla,

Again, just because it's got a label titling it "official"  doesn't always make it true. Like I said earlier, I ask metallica what a song means and the band tells me exactly what it means yet, their record company puts an official label on it and says it means something else, am I to believe that? No. I'll go with the band. It can be the same with the directors. So, no confirmation from them, nothing is true with those books you call Canon.

^Ben i am not trying too start an arguement, so please tyou don't have to get mad.

Listen, its just my opinion i am entitled too it. No one has to believe my views and they certainly will not, i brought up a point from two books i read called, "Godzilla: Awakening written by Max Borenstein the man who was apart of the script for Godzilla." And, "Godzilla, the offical novel adaptation.

Wanted too say something, what exactly is with the adamantness of it not being canon? Why do you all care so much if it is or isn't? Why is it so horrible for it too be canon, is they're something wrong with Godzilla 2014 having a little abillity that makes a tad bit more sense? And because it wasn't mentioned in the movie, doesn't mean it wasnt canon. If an official novel from a film written by the script writer makes a book off of his script, how is it not canon?

^Im personally in the middle on the books, why? Why would the mutos need EMP's during the Stone Age?

the topic: It would be interesting to see but I rather see a nuclear pulse then a Spiral Ray, one that makes for sense, obviously the spiral 

^Good point High Flyers, why would they need EMPs?

Was the emps used for ghidorah bolts? Were they used for nothing? Or would they put there to make the script for dramatic for the modern day and makes a film that's trying to make its self realistic get put in there for the most dumbest reason ever, phhs, no wonder their species got kill off, they got the dumbest, usless power ever

Like seriously there is a reason they are there

GorillaGodzilla,

First off, I am not mad. Second, the official Godzilla novelization was written by this guy.

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Godzilla: The Official Novelization

Godzilla: The Official Novelization is a novel based on Legendary Pictures' Godzilla. The book was written by Greg Cox and published by Titan Books. The novelization was released on May 20, 2014

The thing is, the movie came out first. Meaning the books are not canon to the film.

I hate being the guy to prove you wrong but there is the solid facts.

GorillaGodzilla,

You are entitled to your opinion. I have nothing against it because we are all entitled to our opinions. However, If we are taking the Godzilla Awakening into the equation, then all of the comic books before this are legit to everything Godzilla. Including Dark Horse, Marvel, and IDW.

GorillaGodzilla,

And if you go here, http://www.tohokingdom.com/monster_bios.htm You will see the monster bios of both the Mutos and Godzilla 2014 himself. They have some of the showa series stuff wrong but other than that, most is somewhat true.

I said Awakening was written by Borenstein.

GorillaGodzilla,

Funny damn thing you said this.

"Listen,its just my opinion i am entitled to it. No one has to believe my views and they certainly will not. I brought up a point from two books i read called Godzilla awakening written by Max Borenstein the man who was a part of the script for Godzilla 2014 and Godzilla the official novelization."

So, how do you explain that? 

Knowing you, you'll probably edit that post since moderators have the power to do so. I should know because I was once one. Us members don't have that power.

"Listen, its called, "The Official Godzilla Novel." I do not see why it is not considered canon by you fellas."

You answered your own question. It's the Official Godzilla Novel. Meaning seperate from the main canon of the film. Meaning a different interpretation not entirely thought up by those who birthed the project of the film-- Which is the only reason the novel was written to begin with: To advertise the movie.

Much prefer the idea that Godzilla is an old, struggling monster. Makes him more interesting and gives him character. People who want him to be the strongest just because they like him a lot do an excellent job of making him a really dislikable and ultimately boring version of the character.

Listen, its just my opinion i am entitled too it.

 There's nothing wrong with having an opinion the problem is you parade it around as fact. When the thread creator addressed Godzilla only using his breath 3 times you immediately responded with, The whole thing with only using his breath 3 times, has been said many times too be only cause of the Muto's having an EMP which stopped his electrical pulsations too create the energy.

In the Godzilla 2 he will most definitley use it more.

That doesn't sound like an opinion if I didn't know better I'd think you were stating something that was 100% true and cannon. If you had said, "in my opinion", or "maybe the mutos have an emp" it would convey an opinion, unsure if true but something you choose to go by. The wording you use makes if sound factual which it is not.

Why do you all care so much if it is or isn't? Why is it so horrible for it too be canon, is they're something wrong with Godzilla 2014 having a little abillity that makes a tad bit more sense?

The same can be asked to you. Why do you want this Godzilla to have abilities never shown in the movie so badly? Why to you want to grasp onto the fact this Godzilla may not be as weak as suspected? Is it just the bias.

And because it wasn't mentioned in the movie, doesn't mean it wasnt canon. If an official novel from a film written by the script writer makes a book off of his script, how is it not canon?

Actually it kind of does. Max borenstein has written for a lot of different movies are they all cannon to eachother? No of course not because he doesn't connect them, and main point is he doesn't connect his comic with his movie either. Multiple times he could have throughout the movie, never did, probably means something. Not that the emp this is ever really addressed in Godzilla Awakening anyway that I remember.

Never read the books but never got why something that could take out who citys is just there for communication, idk it just make me wonder, Not saying it is there for Godzilla but not saying it's there for no monster either, which its bugging if Ghidorah will have a earth or space orgin and how long he's been around Bc I thought they could effect his bolts, odd part is we don't know how much works in this universe yet or how it could play out in the rest of the series and/or future spin offs

Durp, i once again do not want an arguement here with anyone lets please keep it civil and not engage in personal attacks.

The reason i defend the idea is because people insult Godzilla 2014 with statements like, "He was knocked over by a building, he fell asleep cause he is weak." And other crap like that.

When they have no idea this Godzilla could potentially be very powerful, but they are bias cause they did not like the movie and wanted Godzilla too be, "A Powerhouse."

Wow, the whole thing you guys are fighting me over is what certain people in this fanbase actually wanted.

People wanted this Godzilla too be a super powerhouse unstoppable figure, and he wasn't so just stop! And because he didn't lift the earth or kill the Mutos in one blow makes him a weak monster.

Sorry, but you have to understand its not bias its just me showing a statement which partly is legit.

Ben, i had no intention of editing my post. It sounds like your engaging me as a coward too change my post so i don't get judged, i am not going too fight you so stop.

GorillaGodzilla,

I'm not arguing or fighting. Me, Durp004, and Gman2887 are trying to correct you with the facts we have provided. Oh, when someone attacks Godzilla 2014 you're all over them like stink on sh##. You have shown no respect to anyone else when you attack their favorite Godzilla films and have shown no remorse in your actions.  So, the movie shows exactly what those people mention and you don't like it? Who are you to provoke them and tell them that they have to like the movie because you do? 

You have provided nothing but speculation on how you see Godzilla in Godzilla 2014. The fact that the trailers lead us to believe that Godzilla was going to be a destructive force and turned it into an anti-hero style film did upset a lot of us. You ever heard of bait and switch? That's exactly what they did with it. To quote what a great friend of mine said, "the answers are in the films! "