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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaJun-04-2015 11:37 PM

Having become sick of the monster vs. monster debates I whipped this up while out of town and decided to pitch it at you guys. This debate will pit movie against movie.

Additionally, I'm keeping all the debates in this thread alone and will update as I go along. I found a list randomizer and mostly used it to pit movie against movie with a bracket system in mind, so the choices are fair. Here's the image:

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I'll go with 'Return of Godzilla'. I loved Godzilla's new look after the Showa Era. And it has one of the most memorable endings in the Godzilla series. Both the Japanese and American versions. The score that plays is one of my favorite from the franchise. And Raymond Burr's speech really gives me goosebumps, even to this day.

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GMAN2887 - What an extremely fun and innovative idea! Hmm...I will have to go with Return of Godzilla. I rememebr watching it for the first time when I was little and having to hide my eyes during certain parts - it scared me awfully! As such, it has remained etched in my mind throughout the years! :)

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Hmm Return of Godzilla has a better story but the characters are pretty boring and forgettable. Then again the people from Godzilla x Mechagodzilla were anything special either.

 

I guess I'll go with Return of Godzilla even with the characters the story was a new but similar take on Godzilla and some of the effects and cinematography were amazing.

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While I really like both films, I guess I'll have to go with Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla. Both movies are good, but GxMG has the advantage because in my opinion it features more interesting characters, more exciting monster action, a slightly more engaging story, a slightly better musical score, and better special effects even for its respective time.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

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Honestly, GxMG is just too Power Rangers-esque to me. Not quite as bad as Final Wars, but almost there. It's obvious that the budgets have been reduced and stretched as thin as can be. Both Godzilla and MG look their worst. Not to mention how it's filmed is very amateurish. Flat, static shots which don't even give the illusion that these are two titanic creatures, but rather simply, yes, men in suits tromping through a cardboard city. The Return of Godzilla is simply the superior film in most every regard. Scope, design, story, and even characters.

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GXM for me. One of my favorite Millennium films, and in general. I find it very entertaining. I love Kiryu's rampage after he sees G roar for the first time, and the scene of him/it finally running out of power is an iconic one for me. Love the music during that whole sequence as well.

 

Although I do like RoG, it's supposed to be a direct sequel to '54 but doesn't have any of its majesty. There's something missing. I loved the body design but the head/face were a complete miss, with the goofy plastic doll eyes that clicked open and closed and I didn't like the teeth. Toho did a great job re-designing his head and face for Biollante. It does, however have one of my favorite scenes in any G-film. A battalion is blasting G from a pier and he just rears back and blows the battalion away with one long burst of his breath. Fabulous; one of those scenes that stays with you.

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i love both films but i have to go with godzilla against mechagodzilla because it is just a great film and it has my favorite version of my favorite godzilla enemy KIRYU

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Return of Godzilla all the way. The first of the Heisei era, an incredible Godzilla that would go on to become the 89 Godzilla who battled Biollante, and i may be wrong but, became the Godzilla that would go on to battle King Ghidorah, Super MechaGodzilla & Rodan, Mothra & Battra, and Destoroyah.

The film was great, but it's the legacy that is what makes it iconic.

Good grief.

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Id have to go with GXMG, the style of the movie and its sequel combine elements of both heisei and showa series in way that works really good in this concept, the suits aside from being tne most expensive out of all the godzilla suits are some of the best desgins in kaiju cinema, the godzilla is a good balance between millenium goji and the classic godzilla suits and not to mention kiryu, kiryu has a very good design, concept, plotline and is probably the best version of MG

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The Kiryugoji design was one of the most expensive suits, but I haven't seen anything that specifically states that it is the number one. I mean by god, besides looking pretty stiff the thing couldn't even turn it's head. 

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^Actually it could-- Not extensively like the GMK suit or the 94/95 suit, but it did have a motor that allowed it some rotation.

I've never heard it was one of the more expensive suits. If true that's ridiculous. All they did was reuse the 99/00 mold, give it a different paint job and stick a new head/spines on it.

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According to the wiki it's "among the most expensive suits" although you have to take that with a grain of salt looking at the site and the way it gets its info. It also gives no context meaing it could be top 5 or just in the upper half of suits all the way down to 15. I'd be extremely surprised if it was in the top 5, I'd probably say in relation to the time it was made it wouldn't be that much more expensive than the 84 suit which did a lot for it's time.

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"According to the wiki"

Grain of salt taken with the entire shaker.

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I'm voting The Return of Godzilla, one of my all-time favorites. There's a lot of great stuff in there including the first full reveal of Godzilla. It is during the ominous approach toward the nuclear plant when you hear the thunderous footsteps, the security officer looks up and there stands Godzilla who obviously isn't aware of the human and doesn't care. Also loved a scene where Godzilla spits out what seems like a short burst of his atomic ray and destroys this helicopter that is flying around and apparently annoying him. The copter drops ands sets off a series of explosions. Enjoyed the tone and direction of this film. 

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The wiki says it's among one of the most "expressive" suits, not "expensive" suits.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

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The Kiryugoji design is actually one of my favorites. Like GMan said, they basically re-purposed the 99/00 design, but improved on it vastly, imho. I like the head/face design and the eyes. The spines, although modeled after 99/00, were toned down in size and painted differently. The pinkish/fuschia/purple color of the 99/00 fins was ghastly, and I found them too large. All in all, I really like the look.

I do agree with Durp004 that it is a fairly stiff suit, though.

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Hm it does say expressive, after JRR said it was the most expensive suit I googled and skimmed the article to see if there was any comfirmation, should have read it more carefully.

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^I didn't even look at the article. Wiki is... wiki.

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Sadly when I typed Kiryugoji, the wiki was one of the few things that popped up that actually had some information on the rest were just pictures, or basically emcompassed the same information.

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MOVIE TOURNAMENT ROUND 2 HAS BEGUN.

Pooled from twitter and the forum, The Return of Godzilla won against Godzilla x MechaGodzilla, 10 to 5.

Next round:

Godzilla: Final Wars VS. Godzilla x Megaguirus

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