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MemberMothra LarvaeMar-07-2014 2:17 AMHey guys, this is my first post ever here and I've been catching up a lot on the awesome news and leaks on this site. Please allow me to give my take on the ancient enemy that Godzilla appears most likely to
be facing in the movie based on all the hints so far.
If we look at some excerpts taken from details of the recently outed Giant Godzilla Toy Package, it describes Godzilla as, 'Possibly the last of an ancient species of giant amphibous creatures that evolved at a time when the surface of the Earth was over ten times more radioactive than it is today. Rarely seen but spoken of in ancient Pacific Island myths, 'Gojira' was last spotted in 1954, when the U.S. Navy encountered and attempted to kill him with an atomic blast in the Pacific Ocean. Since then, the giant creature has been living in the deep ocean - until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to reappear.'
If you take note of the two sentences I highlighted above, first we now know that the amphibious species belonging to 'Godzilla' thrived on areas of high radioactivity in the Pacific region. As the conditions of Earth changed dramatically over the years with radioactive levels plunging, species that cannot adapt either die out or go into a state of hibernation. It appears that Godzilla went into a state of hibernation, and was encountered by the US Navy in 1954 during military exercises. Clearly frightened by the immensity of their discovery, (in their ignorance) decided to unleash their nuclear arsenal on the monster in the hopes of killing it, which they later guised up as nuclear tests being carried out. Of course, the radioactivity from the nuclear bombs were unable to kill Godzilla, but these explosive 'tests' were sufficient to drive Godzilla deeper into the ocean to evade these attacks, which had since disappeared from man's sight.
While the US navy was aware they were unsuccessful in killing Godzilla then, (as Ken Wantanabe a.k.a Daisuke Serizawa in the movie describes that 'they were trying to kill it'), the US also made the
move to seal off access to these Pacific Islands to ensure nobody else would ever encounter Godzilla which had disappeared into the ocean. How do we know this took place? If we look at real-life history,
fallout from the detonation of Castle Bravo in 1954 —intended to be a secret test—fell on residents of these islands and news spread quickly around the world. The islanders were not evacuated until a few
days later and suffered radiation sicknesses. They were since never allowed to return to the islands as the US classified the area to be unsafe.
Next we focus on the threat to Godzilla's survival, which is described as an ancient enemy that 'forces Godzilla to reappear'. This enemy would also have been thriving during ancient times on high levels of radioactivity to survive, just like Godzilla, and also disappeared when the conditions changed. It therefore appears that this ancient enemy living in the ocean was also awoken by accident by the radioactivity of the nuclear tests in 1954 which was not known by humans. For something to drive Godzilla out from the ocean and back onto the land surface for survival, this enemy would have been based in the ocean too and have the ability to snuff out something from Godzilla that threatens the very existence of Godzilla. And what is that ability? - The parasitic ability to absorb / leech the radioactive energy from Godzilla's body. This would make sense because if you look at the storyline, Godzilla first surfaced onto land on the other side of the Pacific, Tokyo ( to feed on the radioactive energy), causing the destruction of the nuclear plant which was covered up as an accident.
How do we know the enemy is based in the ocean too? - Bioluminescence, which is used by organisms living in dark depths gives us a strong hint of that, if you look at the glowing body of the MUTO creatures. But that's not to say the eight-legged MUTO monster or Flying MUTO you see in the trailers comes directly from the ocean. They are merely products of M.U.TO's cross-experiments between existing animals and the cells of the ancient organism which have the ability to leech on Godzilla's radioactive energy. How do we know that? In Legendary's description of the movie, it states that Godzilla is pitted against malevolent creatures who, bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence. In other words, the ancient enemy of Godzilla appears to be a micro-organism based in the ocean that thrives on radioactive energy, similar to how algae or krill if uninhibited in growth would decimate oxygen levels that kill fishes in ponds and in the sea. Therefore Godzilla is forced to come out of the ocean because the micro-organism that has been revived by the nuclear tests in the Pacific ocean is leeching on Godzilla. Humans, who are unable to destroy Godzilla (which is now on land) using nuclear bombs, decide to mutate the micro-organism's cells to turn them into land creatures thinking everything is under their control only to find it go heywire, creating a whole new set of monsters that threaten not only Godzilla but humans themselves too.
This leads me to conclude that the ancient enemy Godzilla is facing is similar to a new version of Destroyah but it would not go by that name and would be a new adversary altogether. If we look at Destroyah's origins, it originated as a colony of Precambrian crustaceans that had been awakened and mutated when the Oxygen Destroyer was detonated to kill the original Godzilla in 1954. After it's detonation, the energy released, revived, and mutated the Precambrian crustaceans that lay beneath Tokyo Bay. Destroyah grows quickly and adopts several appearances from his microscopic form, 3-mm form, insect-sized form, 2-meter form, 18-meter crab-like forms, a larger aggregate crab-like form, a bat-like flying form, and a bipedal 120-meter, demonic final form.
In comparsion to the new Godzilla film, nuclear bombs were in use this time round in an attempt to kill Godzilla in 1954. If you add on the presence of the 8-legged MUTO and the flying MUTO including other smaller-sized MUTOs that will be present in the movie, it further points to the plot of Godzilla facing a Destroyah-like enemy. Perhaps Gareth Edward's comments that audiences will be wowed by something else present in the movie to confront Godzilla refers to the final-form of this Destroyah-like ancient enemy?
What do you guys think? :)
Update: While we are still unclear of the exact storyline and everyone is coming up with their theories on the origins of the MUTOs etc, it seems more hints have been outed by Gareth Edwards in his interview with Verge.
I understand that while there were people who find my theory on the MUTOs and Godzilla plausible, there were others who dismissed it altogether, especially on the part where I said Godzilla may have been leeched on by a micro-organism in the ocean which was later on mutated by cross-experiments by scientists on land which went out of control.
In the interview, G Edwards talked about the design of the MUTO monsters, where he said they were designed in such a way that when people looked at them, they could see that it was ' evolved from the same organism'.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
Some interesting considerations!
Somehow I'd forgotten about the notion that the MUTOs were "bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance," and therefore could indeed be the result of scientists' meddling. That is an interesting point to consider when thinking about the MUTOs' origins, so thanks for the reminder.
Also, the energy-leaching idea reminds me of something, heh.
(I'm sure there's more I have to say, but it's quite late and I can't think right now!)
After seeing the leaked image of the flying Muto toy, it further points to the Destroyah-theory that I talked about, which is present here in this Godzilla movie. We can see that the flying Muto possesses the same outlook and traits as the 8-legged Muto, except with a larger frame and wings this time, which suggests the Muto evolved / transformed itself to better take on Godzilla. When looking through the leaked toylist, I noted that the pack with 8-legged muto + Godzilla mini toy set costs $7.99 while the Winged muto pack costs $19.99. What caught my attention most was the one which merely listed Muto + Godzilla set at $21.99. Could the $21.99 pack reveal the ultimate enemy of Godzilla ?
Also, for those who advocate a different sort of theory on the Mutos, you will notice I did not talk about the multi-armed (so-called Taleghan) creature sighted in the teaser clips nor the relevance of the sinkholes. Because teasers sometimes do not necessarily bear exact relevance to the film, and are only meant to be viral-marketing materials to ignite discussion or speculation, or to draw attention away from the true details of the plot. This is similar to how we saw teaser clips of whale carcasses and the Tagruato Corporation and the Slusho ads prior to the screening of Cloverfield, but we do not see these things in the actual movie. Likewise, I doubt this multi-armed armadillo-like lizard creature nor the sinkholes we see on the teasers are going to make an appearance in this Godzilla movie.
For guys who still insist that this multi-armed (taleghan) creature would appear in the movie, here's my theory on what would take place. Based on the appearance of this creature, which resembles a multi-armed armadillo + lizard, it suggests a burrower. Which means that the sinkholes are created by this creature. If you look at the backdrop where the carcass of the creature lies, it appears to be in Japan (most likely Tokyo) where it encountered Godzilla and was exterminated, needless to say. Note that this teleghan creature did not go looking for Godzilla for a fight. If we look at the events, where I explained that Godzilla was forced to feed on radioactive energy on land which brought it to Tokyo, the said multi-armed creature could also have found it's way there to feed on the nuclear plant, which led to the confrontation. In other words, this multi-armed creature could also have been an ancient species that lived in the pacific region, like Godzilla did and was awoken by the increased radioactivity on the pacific islands. Therefore my take on this multi-armed lizard would be that even if it does appear in the movie, it would play a minor role in the start of the movie.
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@DURP004
I did not dismiss the presence of sinkholes over my Destroyah-theory, but I do not subscribe to your notion that the Mutos will originate from the sinkholes. If that's really the case, this movie would then smack of unrealism because giant creatures don't just come crawling out of the underground suddenly all in one shot and start attacking humans. Then Godzilla will just end up like any other B-grade movie.
To me, the MUTO monsters are cross-mutations of experiments carried out by the MUTO Organization involving ancient organisms that leeched on Godzilla in the ocean, and those of existing land animals that went out of control and wrecked havok on land. We need only look at the body features of the Muto toys leaked to know they are hybrids of different animals. Like you mentioned, you said the sinkholes are a 'big part of the MUTO website'. It serves as an official viral-marketing site for Godzila that details the operations of MUTO and what they do. To me, these details merely attempt to depict realism in MUTO's operations and may not necessarily appear in the movie itself. Similarly in Cloverfield, its viral websites depict Tagruato and Slusho's website with details and drilling locations, but do we see them in the actual movie? None at all.
My assessment of the story-plot is based on what I have seen so far, and also drawing from details laid out bare on the toys' descriptions and what we see from the official trailers, and not merely teasers/viral marketing materials by the way. If your theory is based on the sinkholes, I very much welcome you to provide your analysis and explanation of the story-plot based on the sinkholes, rather than just quote that sinkholes play a big part on MUTO's website to support your point.
I would certainly like to know how an incredible giant flying MUTO and a giant 8-legged MUTO could simply dig themselves out of a sinkhole and start a fight with Godzilla.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
@Durp004
Thanks for your comments, but it appears that you still have not provided your theory in detail as to how the sinkholes can possibly be where the Mutos originate, to form the backbone of your entire Godzilla theory, other than just quoting you caught a glimpse of what appears to be a cavern in the trailer. The cavern in the trailer could have been excavated by humans that discovered the bones of the same species belonging to Godzilla which have died out when the climate changed. Carcasses of dinosaurs which had died out over millions of years were also buried underneath rock over time as earth changed its landscape. So if we find bones of the dinosaurs underground, does it then give the theory that dinosaurs originated from below the ground based on that logic?
Pointers that tell me your sinkhole theory does not stand:
Point #1: Let's quote the most obvious - The word 'MUTO' itself, it is not a species that lives in the caves by the way, it represents the organization itself. Ask yourself, why would a monster be called a MUTO monster for nothing if it is not a product of MUTO's experimentation? Even Legendary states that Godzilla is pitted against malevolent creatures who, bolstered by humanity's scientific arrogance, threaten our very existence.
Point #2: It is stated that Godzilla has been living in the deep ocean - until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to reappear.' So are you saying that a creature which originated from a cave on land could force Godzilla, which is in the comfort of the depths of the ocean to come out to the surface? Or is Godzilla so interested in picking fights with monsters that he simply pops out of the sea when he is in a good mood and goes into a boxing match? Something must be in the ocean that caused Godzilla to come up onto land to feed on the nuclear plants to survive. That's where deep-sea ancient organisms revived by the 1954 nuclear blasts, with the parasitic ability to leech Godzilla's energy come into mind.
Point #3: Why in the world would MUTO want to create new forms of gigantic MUTO Monsters or bolster the powers of existing giant monsters (which originate from sinkholes apparently) to fight Godzilla when Godzilla itself is a Big Headache already for humans? Of course not. That's where Destroyah's theory comes into mind. It would make sense for MUTO to extract the cells of an ancient deep-sea micro-organism and bland them with existing animals such as insects or bats because these animals are small in size. The scientists at MUTO created these small sized hybrids to attack Godzilla by leeching on its energy like what parasites would do. At the same time, the scientists thought they could control their creations since they were too small to prove a threat. Turns out things just went out of control and the cells mutated into something larger which kept growing and growing. That is the same case with Destroyah that went from a microscopic deep-sea organism to a gigantic menace.
#Point 4: This blows your sinkhole origin theory - The glowing bodies of the MUTOs. Bioluminescence occurs on marine vertebrates and invertebrates, which is the strongest hint that the enemy that threatens Godzilla originated from the ocean.
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@Jazmyne
Obviously you weren't reading the 'walls of text' when you decided to drop this nonsensical comment of yours. My discussion was focused on the info taken from the toys and the MUTOs for your info. Speaks a lot about your intelligence. Lmao.
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@Jazmyne
Oh, I too didn't bother to read that long wall of text you just typed above btw. My advice for you is fast and easy. - Don't Read, Don't Comment. Then you will have nothing to whine about. Nobody expects you to. That's all :)
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