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BCrockett94
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:07 PMEarlier, I had asked a question about Godzilla's supposed immunity from nuclear warfare. I got a lot of crap for it, but whatever, I don't mind being called an idiot when I deserve it. I just want to say, in a way that wasn't jumbled up in a bunch of contradictions, that I pretty much agreed with what Instinctive Gigan was saying, especially the part about the fact that if Toho had made a movie with Godzilla getting nuked, this discussion wouldn't even be happening, which is why I asked the question. A lot of people just assume Godzilla is some creature that is entirely immune from being utterly destroyed by a nuke, and I disagree, but that's only because I haven't seen it happen. I'm one of those "believe it if you see it" types. The oxygen destroyer is really the only tried and true method of killing Godzilla. I don't remember Godzilla being killed any other way, other than the meltdown scene that ended the Heisei series. So really, the only way known to kill Godzilla is an oxygen destroyer, or if you (which most people don't) consider 'Zilla as Godzilla, then a few sidewinder missiles to the side does the trick as well, even if a torpedo that causes a larger explosion doesn't do the trick.
Damn it, I don't even know where I was going with this. I'm just gonna end this and say that I am deeply sorry about my ignorance, or stupidity, whichever you prefer.
Sincerely,
This Dumb Ass.
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InstinctiveGigan
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-11-2013 9:56 PMBro there's no reason to apologize for anything. Discussions are just that, discussions. You started the topic so you had every right to disagree and discuss the subject matter. If you agreed with my opinion then that's awesome, but having your own regardless what others think isn't a crime. Hell I'm the biggest fanboy on the face of the earth when it comes to fictional characters. Don't call yourself stupid, you were curious that was it. If anything everyone on this site who discusses Godzilla sound like idiots. We discuss the mythology of a 400ft tall fire breathing dinosaur who fights armless, 3 headed space dragons and giant moths for pete's sake.
Svanya
AdminGiganOct-12-2013 12:18 AMAwww, you don't need to apologize for anything, you did nothing wrong!
Like INSTINCTIVEGIGAN said, this forum is a place for conversation, debate and most important of all FUN. So enjoy yourself, and don't apologize for having an opinion. :)
BCrockett94
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 12:44 AMIt's not so much just the "opinion" thing, I felt like I was a bit of an asshole about it. So, I guess that's really what I'm mostly apologizing for. I'm not sure if you perceived me as an ass, but I felt like one.
I hope that I didn't use anything that might seem [i]too[/i] vulgar, language wise. xD
Durp004
MemberBaragonOct-12-2013 12:59 AMI didn't really see a problem with the topic actually seemed to be a fairly ddebatable topic to me
Bigby
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 4:05 AMDude, you had no reason to apologize about that thread, it was a plausible debate, just got a bit jumbled contextually is all. An let's face it, its better than my Godzilla vs. Smaug thread, I mean come on I knew the answer already, I just hoped for a curveball answer but all I got were 'err Godzilla...duh' answers hahah, at least yours had debate.
Samzilla 14
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 4:51 AMI think I'm the one who should apologize to you for coming accross as a bit of a dick in that last thread. Like many people here I react upon impuls when I'm tired.
But while we're on the subject, does anyone else here think Godzilla's appearance in the first leaked teaser might be the aftermath of a nuclear bomb being dropped on him or in his vicinity? The massive amounts of smoke and dust clouding his image could very well be fallout radiation and the bits of building crumbling off his back could be the result of being buried under rubble by the explosion.
TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusOct-12-2013 5:40 AMSam,I think a plot twist for the upcoming movie next year might have been revealed! Nuking Godzilla in this movie actually makes sense,seeing as how he's going to be immune to any conventional weaponry,the monsters he will fight will inevitably be defeated,and humanity is going to be desperate for a quick solution.
A nuke is humanity's most powerful weapon currently (the Oxygen destroyer is sadly just a dream),and this could set up some more human drama and intensity for sequels by having it so that nations are furious at each other for the usage of nukes against Godzilla,as well as the fact that he's likely not going to be killed by them either.
Gimm-e
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 6:31 AMI thought it was a legit question, so that's why I even bothered to reply in the first place. Besides, you should see what's going on on the godzilla-forum on imdb. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
'sincerely, this dumbass'
Haha, that was hilarious!
You don\\\'t see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage!
Equinoqs
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 8:29 AMYou need to apologize to Godzilla in person. Because, if you do that, it means I can actually see Godzilla in real life.
BCrockett94
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 2:27 PMI'd rather not piss myself, Equinoqs. Godzilla can stay in the movies where he belongs.
Deltadromeus
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 2:42 PMI'd love to see Godzilla in person. You didn't have to apologize until you said Godzilla is a dinosaur. That got me a tiny bit angry, as a dinosaur freak.
Hi
BCrockett94
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 3:01 PMI said Godzilla was a dinosaur? 0.o Damn, I must have been out of it.
Not that I really think Godzilla can be considered a dinosaur, but several times throughout the franchise, the main characters usually speculate that Godzilla was a dinosaur at one point, or is still one, but just heavily radiated. In Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, he is shown as a dinosaur during the time travel mission as well as a few flashbacks.
So, Godzilla in Gojira is speculated to be a dinosaur by Yamane the dinosaur expert they bring in for no real reason other to explain to us that Godzilla's a dinosaur, or he's sure he is.. Then again, they thought dinosaurs died out two million years ago in that movie.
In Godzilla Raids Again, or as Americans know it as Gigantis: The Fire Monster, Godzilla and Anguirus are both speculated to be dinosaurs.
I dunno, several movies say he's a dinosaur, or was a dinosaur at one point. ;p
Again, I didn't even realize I said he was a dinosaur. I've been so out of it lately. Too much college can make a guy act stupid. I'm a fan of dinosaurs as well, looking forward to Jurassic World in less 700 days.
But you have to admit, Godzilla is VERY reminiscent of a dinosaur. Not any particular dinosaur, but a mashup. I can see T-rex, well what they assumed T-rex was like during the 50's, and stegosaurus, without the tail or and with added tines in the spines.
Deltadromeus
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 3:15 PMNow its my turn to apologize. Someone else said it. Sorry. And, as a dino freak, Godzilla looks nothing at all like a dinosaur. Of course the 1998 Godzilla I don't consider Godzilla, but DinoZilla. With the bipedal posture, long tail, even the leg is right. And the hands are like a Coelophysis's with five fingers.
Hi
BCrockett94
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 4:08 PMI agree, he doesn't look like something we'd consider a dinosaur by today's standard. We've got science to thank for that. Yeah, I didn't mean that he looks spot on like a dinosaur.
Don't apologize, I think I did say something about Godzilla being a dinosaur.
And I understand that you, as a dinosaur "freak", wouldn't see the similarities between Godzilla and dinosaurs. I mean I like dinosaurs, but I see bits and pieces of Godzilla where it seems like his design was based on dinosaurs.
DinoZilla? That's a nickname I haven't heard before (not sarcasm, I swear).
MiketheG7453
MemberMothra LarvaeOct-12-2013 5:54 PMI may then be the most homer Godzilla fan in regards to where he stands with me. He is beyond dinosaur, beyond animal. He is a living nuclear bomb, infused with a hurricane, earthquake,tsunami, all rolled into a living creature...to attack him is to just piss him off. never mind the radio active poison in any area he roams for who knows how many years...he destroys livable land for decades. Butt, that's just how I view him. everyone has a different reality when it comes to Godzilla. That's just my take.
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MemberMothra LarvaeOct-13-2013 5:04 AMOn the subject on whether big G's a dinosaur, here's a bit from wkipedia's info on the first film:
"Art director Akira Watanabe combined attributes of a Tyrannosaurus, an Iguanodon, a Stegosaurus and an alligator to form a sort of blended chimera, inspired by illustrations from an issue of Life magazine. To emphasise the monster's relationship with the atomic bomb, its skin texture was inspired by the keloid scars seen on Hiroshima's survivors."
GojiraVsClover
MemberMothra LarvaeNov-25-2013 4:28 AM"But while we're on the subject, does anyone else here think Godzilla's appearance in the first leaked teaser might be the aftermath of a nuclear bomb being dropped on him or in his vicinity? The massive amounts of smoke and dust clouding his image could very well be fallout radiation and the bits of building crumbling off his back could be the result of being buried under rubble by the explosion."
Or, a tall building was in close proximity when he unleashes his fire breath. Or, maybe, we'll be treated to him employing his nuclear pulse.
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