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G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaAug-22-2013 1:55 AMAt subtle request of Mr. *AL* in a thread that will remain unmentioned, I've decided start a discussion over the battles Godzilla has lost. No doubt it's a touchy subject amongst some fans, but Godzilla's lost battles can be just as spectacular as the ones he won. It's still an important part of his legacy in the franchise.
Here's a list I compiled. Anyone care to discuss, add or give a rebuttal against some of these? Feel free:
[b]Godzilla (1954)[/b]: Godzilla lost to humans with the Oxygen Destroyer
[b]Godzilla Raids Again:[/b] Godzilla lost to humans by being buried in the ice.
[b]King Kong vs. Godzilla[/b]: Godzilla lost to Kong. Kong was the only one to rise above the ocean after they fought underwater. (There is a misconception that Godzilla won in the Japanese version. Rest assured, that is a false rumor. The ending is the same for both versions.)
[b]Godzilla vs. Mothra[/b]: Godzilla lost to two Mothra Larvae.
[b]Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster[/b]: Godzilla lost to Mothra [u]again[/u] in a short skirmish.
[b]Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla[/b]: Godzilla lost his first fight against MechaGodzilla.
[b]Godzilla 1985/The Return of Godzilla[/b]: Godzilla was defeated by humans [u]again[/u], by being lured into a volcano.
[b]Godzilla vs. Biollante[/b]: Godzilla lost to the combined might of Biollante and the Anti-Nuclear Energy Bacteria that humans used on him.
[b]Godzilla and Mothra: The Battle for Earth[/b]: Godzilla lost to Mothra (and Battra) [u]AGAIN[/u].
[b]Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 2[/b]: MechaGodzilla briefly [u]killed[/u] Godzilla. (He would've stayed dead if it weren't for Rodan.)
[b]Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla[/b]: Godzilla lost his first fight to SpaceGodzilla.
[b]Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah[/b]: General Tachibana beat him by drilling a hole out of his throat. The hole fired his atomic ray and exploded him.
[b]Godzilla against MechaGodzilla[/b]: Kiryu defeats Godzilla in the end.
[b]Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.[/b]: Godzilla is defeated by Kiryu and the Mothra Larvae [i][u](AGAIN)[/u][/i] and then lost forever in the Japanese trench.
Anything else? Or anything that we might discuss that counts? It seems Mothra and MechaGodzilla have the records here.
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Huge-Ben
MemberBaragonAug-22-2013 5:03 PMyou are right gman2887 but i still dont agree with the kong winning crap because the last i checked apes,chimpanzes,and gorillas can not breathe underwater where godzilla can but as far as anything else in the movies no i believe you got it all down man besides yes godzilla does lose but he does also win on the ocassions so the way i look at it every monster old and new wins and loses
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G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaAug-22-2013 10:13 PM@BigBadBen
I know fans like to count the fight with Kong as a tie, but I think Kong would have either drowned or Godzilla risen had it actually been a tie or Godzilla won. Remember, Kong was also electrically charged so he could've easily electrified the water around Godzilla to win.
Also... it was 1963. This was only Godzilla's third movie and Kong was far more popular at the time. I think there was a demand for Kong's win.
@Radioactive78
The 1954 Godzilla seems pretty dead to me. :D
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godzilla3580
MemberMothra LarvaeAug-23-2013 7:25 PMWell in Godzilla against Mechagodzilla, Kiryu doesn't really defeat Godzilla. He swims away with a chest wound.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaAug-24-2013 12:47 AM@Godzilla3580
Fair enough. I threw that up there because Kiryu did cause the chest wound with his Absolute Zero Canon. Kiryu walked away with damage as well, but at least diverted Godzilla's attack. I could see it working as either a win for Kiryu or a tie.
@Dr. Professor
Oof! Thanks, for the correction.
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Huge-Ben
MemberBaragonAug-24-2013 8:00 AM@GMAN2887
after looking through all the godzilla films if i added this up correctly godzilla's fight record all together is 54 wins 13 losses and 13 ties with not only the monsters but also the humans including super x's 1-3 and the military i might have miss counted somehow but ill go back through and double check from the first film all the way to final wars let me know if you think i miss counted and ill recheck it out
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radioactive78
MemberMothra LarvaeAug-24-2013 9:51 AM@GMAN2887
i always thought he got the scar from being frozen in the ice
G. H. (Gman)
AdminGodzillaAug-24-2013 2:20 PM@BigBadBen
I'll trust your math. Thanks. Although the Super X1 and Super X3 both technically won against Godzilla at some point. I wonder if I should lob those on the list...
@Radioactive78
Well, yes, but where do you think the ice came from? :D
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**Al**
Community ExecutiveMemberMothra LarvaeSep-01-2013 1:29 PMyes, Gman2887, I was looking forward this list, Thanks .
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