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In the film, he was completely frozen. Tail tip and all. So, somehow someway, there has to be a time gap between the shot where he is frozen to the next evolution. 

The shot of him completely frozen shows his tail tip pointing to his left side. It is not moving or trying to evolve. Its completely frozen. The shot of his next evolution, shows the tail tip standing straight up so to speak with his next evolution hanging off the tip. Yes, the next evolution is not moving at all, but we have to remember when he laid waste to Tokyo with all of his atomic photon beam attacks, he ran out of energy completely and had to recharge it. Sure it took almost 2 weeks to do so, but the military interrupted his "full" energy charge. They made him waste his energy once again, maybe not fully but enough to where he couldn't use his atomic breath attack for a long period of time. My best guess is that the energy he had left was just enough to start the next evolution process, but not enough to finish it. 

5. King Ghidorah

4. Otachi

3. Godzilla

2. MechaGodzilla (Tie between all 3)

1. Gigan

Honorable mentions: Anguirus, Gorosaurus, Gamera and Rodan

Hmm. After a lot of thought:

5. Showa Mechagodzilla

4. Rodan

3. King Ghidorah

2. Final Wars Gigan (if it was just on look alone, he would take it)

1. Godzilla

Honorable mentions: Kong, Megalon (I just really dig the way he looks) 

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It's fine! I didn't take it that way. So - sorry for another question - but if Godzilla was to unfreeze, would he continue his evolution?

@Kaiju-Man257,

Let me apologize if I sounded like I was bashing your theory. I wasn't trying to do that at all. Like I said, I liked your theory. 

To answer your question, The humanoids were Godzilla's next evolution. He couldn't continue to evolve because he ran out of energy. It was confirmed in the film that as long as Godzilla had energy and the proper environment, he could evolve into anything that it seemed superior to that environment. With being very low in energy while being frozen, he had enough to try to evolve but not enough to finish it. 

Sorry for the long paragraphs, and again if I came off like I was bashing your theory. 

I don't remember my first Godzilla movie, but I used to have a lot of Godzilla toys growing up without knowing that they were actually from Godzilla. I guess I just got into it because giant monsters interested me. 

I think I'm going to rewrite this, cause there are things I did wrong. But before I do that - I just need to know - what's going on with humanoids? are they alive/dead? are they still growing or were they stopped? It'll be important if I go further with this.

If they do decide to make a sequel, I hope they introduce new monsters in it.

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That would be cool and weird at the same time. Lol. 

Huge-Ben- What if two of those humanoids become Sanda and Gaira?

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It's pretty much confirmed in the film that Godzilla was able to reconstruct itself. Even after being attacked by the mop2 bombs. He can do like Sanda and Gaira from war of the gargantuas and make millions of himself. It's an interesting take on the king of the monsters. 

You know, I was gonna save this idea for my own writing, but I think it might be relevant here.

Basically, I'm wondering whether the "Godzilla humanoid sprouting" thing would only be from the tail, or if it would engulf the whole body. Imagine..... a mini-Godzilla sprouting from every inch of Shin Godzilla's body.

OH! EVEN BETTER IDEA! What if this is like a Destoroyah deal, where the mini-Godzillas recombine into a more fearsome form of Shin Godzilla?

I also disagree with the idea that the Monsterverse is so stagnantly "realistic". Skull Island is sort of throwing that notion out of the window and I can only imagine it will escalate.

I remember back in 2008 when Iron Man came out there was a discussion about which movie was more grounded--Iron Man or Batman Begins. The article in question was actually vouching for Iron Man and it made a pretty good argument at the time. Iron Man was excessively grounded in our world with ideas and themes that reflected world issues during 2008. The creation and grounded reality of Tony Stark's inventions were believable enough in this world.

Today? Tony Stark is fighting aliens and reproductive AI robotics. Hardly grounded - Absolutely silly - But plenty of fun. I see the Monsterverse going a similar route--It's fairly serious and grounded in Godzilla '14, but little by little it will head off the deep end.

And that is perfectly okay. Especially in this genre. In fact I hope it happens.

 Gigan or MechaG always seems to come up in these conversations X)

I just dont see it happening. Gigan at his core is a cyborg constructed by aliens. To make him organic kind of takes away what Gigan is.

Not to mention MechaG just kinda being a silly concept to begin with. Very awesome and fun, but still silly.

I doubt either of the two can actually work in this more so realistic MonsterVerse.

We need kaiju that are more based on creatures and natural organisms. Believable mutations at the very most.

I would expect kaiju like Biollante, Destoroyah, Anguirus, Gorosaurus, Kumonga (missed opportunity with that bamboo spider), Kamacuras, Ebirah, Manda, etc. Kaiju that don't have a massive extension of disbelief to leap over.

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Gman, do I need to show you the shots on Twitter again? The tail tip differences in each shot show it in the film. It happens after being frozen. Even if Hideaki Anno wanted to be like his past work, it's not concluded that way in his script with the art of Shin Godzilla book. 

Honestly I would expect a massive uproar among both fans and the general audience.

Just about every single comment thread I've seen encompasses a majority of people rooting for Godzilla; even in videos explaining why Kong has a chance.

If Godzilla wins, that uproar will still happen, but it would be certainly a fraction of the one that would occur in Kong's victory.

The only reason I would say there wasn't an uproar in 1962 was because it was only Godzilla's 3rd movie. He didn't have the reputation he has today and didn't have as much as a following.

The only safe card for the studio I see is them teaming up to fight another monster at the end and having no true victor. Honestly though, I'm starting to consider that a cop out.

^It doesn't debunk it. Even if there was enough fuel flowing through Godzilla's frozen body to attempt the evolution it clearly wasn't successful. None of the creatures were moving in the final shot and they clearly looked as if they were struggling to escape. (Although the poses may be more symbolic in nature.)

And it's still entirely possible Godzilla was trying to evolve before being frozen. Based on his previous work, Anno's one to accept a continuity error just so a later shot can make more of an impact.

One thing that kinda debunks the next evolution being dead by being frozen is the fact that he was trying to evolve after being frozen. There's obviously a time gap from when he is frozen to the shot of the next evolution. His tail was frozen completely. So, the fact that his tail was already frozen, and  to the last shot indicate there is a time gap.

I do like your idea though. My theory of a sequel is that the U.N. discovered his next "movement" , in this case, evolution, and the nuclear strike counts down once again. Remember, The U.N. stated that if Godzilla were to start moving again they would set off the nuclear strike. That being said, his next evolution required "movement" to happen. 

Might wanna tone down the more fantastical sci-fi elements.

The world of Shin Godzilla is a relatively grounded one. Heck, the blood coagulant was realistic in approach, as was the procedures involved in making decisions and whatnot.

However, making use of the Godzilla humanoids is a good idea.

Wow, this actually took some thinking after the top 3.

1. Godzilla

2.King Kong

3. Rodan

4. MechaGodzilla(specifically showa)

5. Biollante

5. Gigan

4. Kiryu

3. Kong

2. Ghidorah

1. Godzilla

5- barugon (from the gamera series)

4- King ceasar

3- Kong 

2- (tie) gamera(heisei) and biollante

1- of course GODZILLA (89 biogoji)

5. Showa Anguirus

4. Showa King Ghidorah

3. Showa Mechagodzilla

2. Gamera 1999

1. Godzilla 1984/85

Honorable mentions: Burning Godzilla, Biollante, Otachi

1. Godzilla (1989)

2. Biollante

3. Varan

4. Baragon

5. Anguirus

That's kind of you, kaijukid. It just seems to me that traditional art, at least when I do it, doesn't get the attention. Don't get me wrong. Digital artwork is extremely difficult to do and it shows how much skill it takes to do it. 

I'll be honest, I actually have not drawn in months and my touch seems to have slipped away. I'm in the process of creating my own Godzilla graphic novel titled "The revenge of godzilla" and I've got a lot to do to finish it. Between work, learning japanese, and hunting on any info for future Godzilla films is keeping me quite busy. If you are aware, I've used elements from my favorite Godzilla designs to create "KaosuGojira" which consists of Shin, Gmk, 54, and 91 that is for my fan fiction. Perhaps when you've got free time, you could check it out? If you need links, I'll gladly provide them.

Anyway, keep up the great work. You got God given talent. 

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Well then welcome to Scifed, hope you enjoy your time here.

Ditto to you :)  I've been lurking around for a while but I liked what I saw here for a more mature and fun side of the kaiju fanbase just sharing thoughts and getting along well, so it felt like a good place to join up.

Oh that's cool, it's nice to meet you.

Yessir, these are all from my gallery folders, I'm Kaijukid over there.  I didn't mean to make this an attention grabby plug on the main message board here, I meant to put this in the fan art topic section but I goofed.  Still pretty new to Scified.

Wait so your the artist of these comics?

Thanks Ben, I know I don't comment on DA as much as I should but it's nice to have you on Watch, you've still got a lot of skill and some very memorable pieces.  All us kaiju artists spur each other on, or at least I think we should, it's edifying to see all the work the fandom puts into their stuff, makes me want to do more for sure.

Ah, good ol' kaijukid from DA. I know you. I'm an artist as well, although not as good as you. I go by the profile name of "Shin-Ben" on DA. Always great to interact with other artists on other websites. 

My apologies, I'm new to the forums, I actually meant to put this topic in the fan works category, not the main topic thread.  Is there any way it can be moved or did I just basically bork it up?

Thanks KingKaijuGojira, I really enjoy doing them.  Appreciate you taking a look.

My favorites are Legendary, Shin, 2000, GMK, Heisei (includes Burning), Kiryu, KingGoji, ShodaiGoji, 1998 (Yes, I admit it), Final and Mosu. 

My absolute favorite is either GMK or 2014. It's really close.

Gigan and Destoroyah

I could see him looking like that.

But then that begs the question - if Godzilla Jr. was included, how would you guys want him to be executed?

I'd want him to be like this:

Except maybe he would be a more browny-green because he's not Godzilla's biological son and he's younger. 

Credit for image: http://img00.deviantart.net/7218/i/2014/001/e/0/godzilla_jr__legendary__colored__by_sonicguy15-d70cagx.jpg

I thought "Kings and Brothers" and "vs Gamera" were very well done