Shin Godzilla Sequel - My Idea

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@Godzilla: King of the Monsters

Thank you! I appreciate it!

Might wanna tone down the more fantastical sci-fi elements.

The world of Shin Godzilla is a relatively grounded one. Heck, the blood coagulant was realistic in approach, as was the procedures involved in making decisions and whatnot.

However, making use of the Godzilla humanoids is a good idea.

One thing that kinda debunks the next evolution being dead by being frozen is the fact that he was trying to evolve after being frozen. There's obviously a time gap from when he is frozen to the shot of the next evolution. His tail was frozen completely. So, the fact that his tail was already frozen, and  to the last shot indicate there is a time gap.

I do like your idea though. My theory of a sequel is that the U.N. discovered his next "movement" , in this case, evolution, and the nuclear strike counts down once again. Remember, The U.N. stated that if Godzilla were to start moving again they would set off the nuclear strike. That being said, his next evolution required "movement" to happen. 

^It doesn't debunk it. Even if there was enough fuel flowing through Godzilla's frozen body to attempt the evolution it clearly wasn't successful. None of the creatures were moving in the final shot and they clearly looked as if they were struggling to escape. (Although the poses may be more symbolic in nature.)

And it's still entirely possible Godzilla was trying to evolve before being frozen. Based on his previous work, Anno's one to accept a continuity error just so a later shot can make more of an impact.

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Gman, do I need to show you the shots on Twitter again? The tail tip differences in each shot show it in the film. It happens after being frozen. Even if Hideaki Anno wanted to be like his past work, it's not concluded that way in his script with the art of Shin Godzilla book. 

You know, I was gonna save this idea for my own writing, but I think it might be relevant here.

Basically, I'm wondering whether the "Godzilla humanoid sprouting" thing would only be from the tail, or if it would engulf the whole body. Imagine..... a mini-Godzilla sprouting from every inch of Shin Godzilla's body.

OH! EVEN BETTER IDEA! What if this is like a Destoroyah deal, where the mini-Godzillas recombine into a more fearsome form of Shin Godzilla?

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It's pretty much confirmed in the film that Godzilla was able to reconstruct itself. Even after being attacked by the mop2 bombs. He can do like Sanda and Gaira from war of the gargantuas and make millions of himself. It's an interesting take on the king of the monsters. 

Huge-Ben- What if two of those humanoids become Sanda and Gaira?

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That would be cool and weird at the same time. Lol. 

If they do decide to make a sequel, I hope they introduce new monsters in it.

I think I'm going to rewrite this, cause there are things I did wrong. But before I do that - I just need to know - what's going on with humanoids? are they alive/dead? are they still growing or were they stopped? It'll be important if I go further with this.

@Kaiju-Man257,

Let me apologize if I sounded like I was bashing your theory. I wasn't trying to do that at all. Like I said, I liked your theory. 

To answer your question, The humanoids were Godzilla's next evolution. He couldn't continue to evolve because he ran out of energy. It was confirmed in the film that as long as Godzilla had energy and the proper environment, he could evolve into anything that it seemed superior to that environment. With being very low in energy while being frozen, he had enough to try to evolve but not enough to finish it. 

Sorry for the long paragraphs, and again if I came off like I was bashing your theory. 

@Huge-Ben

It's fine! I didn't take it that way. So - sorry for another question - but if Godzilla was to unfreeze, would he continue his evolution?

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In the film, he was completely frozen. Tail tip and all. So, somehow someway, there has to be a time gap between the shot where he is frozen to the next evolution. 

The shot of him completely frozen shows his tail tip pointing to his left side. It is not moving or trying to evolve. Its completely frozen. The shot of his next evolution, shows the tail tip standing straight up so to speak with his next evolution hanging off the tip. Yes, the next evolution is not moving at all, but we have to remember when he laid waste to Tokyo with all of his atomic photon beam attacks, he ran out of energy completely and had to recharge it. Sure it took almost 2 weeks to do so, but the military interrupted his "full" energy charge. They made him waste his energy once again, maybe not fully but enough to where he couldn't use his atomic breath attack for a long period of time. My best guess is that the energy he had left was just enough to start the next evolution process, but not enough to finish it. 

I thought of a name for those Humanoids, would you guys like to hear it?

@Huge-Ben - Thank you! I appreciate it!

@Dragon King Ultrazero80 - Sure, why not?

I call them "Godzilla's Legion".

@Dragon King Ultrazero80 - Neato. I like it!

Thanks!

Huge-Ben,
You've made your point and case with the screenshots multiple times, but that evidence proves to be completely moot if Anno made a continuity error on purpose just so the final shot had a greater impact. Why reveal something so shocking and bizarre, which is intended to be the final dramatic beat of a movie, when it can be saved for its intended purpose? It makes little dramatic sense and the director has made decisions like this multiple times before--Whether it be visible in his script or not. (Why would it? There's no point in drawing attention to it.)

In any case it likely doesn't matter either way. Godzilla's 5th form was halted by the coagulate and it's still entirely possible it did enough damage to his body to render the emerging form inert and/or his body incapable of evolving in to more extreme forms--A direction I would prefer a Shin Godzilla sequel to take in order to maintain a more traditional Godzilla silhouette.

If the coagulante worked fully, why was it still evolving after being frozen? We can look at this as an artistic view all day, but the film itself proves it has a purpose. Why wouldn't it? 

I don't believe in this "continuity error." It wouldn't be there to begin with if it had no meaning or purpose. The fact is, it still happens after being frozen. They state in the film directly that the coagulante would only temporarily immobilized him. 

Of course, I'm all about a traditional Godzilla silhouette. But, as you have stated multiple times, Shin Godzilla is more of a stand alone film. 

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"If the coagulante worked fully, why was it still evolving after being frozen?"

A) We can't be sure it was evolving after given Anno's penchant for saving dramatic shots at a later time. B) If it didn't work fully why aren't the fifth form creatures mobile? The whole problem with the theory that they sprouted after the fact is that we see them immobilized. So they either started sprouting from the tail before the coagulate took effect or they attempted to sprout after the fact somehow and failed to fully form due to the coagulate. There's really no other explanation outside of those two because the final shot clearly shows them frozen.

"We can look at this as an artistic view all day, but the film itself proves it has a purpose. Why wouldn't it?"

Indeed. And that purpose could very well be to just fool the audience through a continuity error so the scene has a great impact later.

"I don't believe in this "continuity error.""

That is your choice.

"The fact is, it still happens after being frozen. They state in the film directly that the coagulante would only temporarily immobilized him. "

Lets say the fifth form tried to sprout out of the tail after the coagulate took effect for some reason. That would still not change the fact that it froze the fifth form mid-transformation.

They said the coagulate is a temporary solution, yes, but they didn't go in to any side-effects it might have on Godzilla's body once he does wake up. This could lead to an excellent out for keeping Godzilla grounded in his current form and no longer capable of evolving into something less recognizable.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters,
It has been confirmed that the creatures sprouting from Godzilla's tail was actually Godzilla 5th form: A collective of humanoid Godzillas that would have supposedly worked together much like humanity did to defeat him.

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Gman,

I feel so honored when you quote my words. Just a reminder, I can do the same. Here we go.

"A) we can't be sure it was evolving after given Anno's penchant for saving dramatic shots a later time. B) if it didn't work fully why aren't the fifth form creatures mobile?"

You have said I have made my points with the final shots of this film. I can not take you seriously at this point.Anno might have decided to make it a dramatic shot, but there is not a given yes or no that that is what he wanted to do. As for the fifth form not moving, well, either Godzilla is frozen or he's recharging his energy. While recharging he wasn't moving. Plus the frozen image and the recharging image, when Godzilla is first recharging his energy, look a lot of alike. 

"The whole problem with the theory that they sprouted after the fact is that we see them immobilized."

Correct. Again the fact is I've pointed out the images thoroughly and their differences. The fact is Jack, it happens after being frozen. 

"So they either start sprouting from the tail before the coagulante took effect or they attempted to sprout after the fact somehow and failed to fully form due to the coagulante."

Again, the images and the film show it happens after being frozen. It's there. The tail tip, the color of Godzilla's skin, face positions are all changed by the shots. Now, that could be a continuity error if he was frozen first, somehow melted but was recharging instead. Remember once again, he wasn't moving while recharging earlier in the film.So this could be a continuity error after all. He might have been recharging instead of fully frozen.

"There's really no other explanation outside of those two because the final shot clearly shows them frozen."

There is no explanation unless that there is in fact a time gap. You can look at the image where he is completely frozen, and the final shot. They show Godzilla in a completely different stance. That's head position, mouth being different, tail tips being different, and most importantly, the color differences between the frozen shot and the recharging shot. 

"Lets say the fifth form tried to sprout after the coagulante took effect for some reason. That would not change the fact that it froze the fifth form mid-transformation."

He can't be out of energy I'm assuming? Jack buddy, the film does what it does. The fact is, as I've pointed out, it does happen after being frozen, and again it could have a time gap there because he might have been recharging to make it look like he was still frozen. 

Ah jeez, I'm sorry that this has kind of exploded. I didn't mean for this to happen!

@Kaiju-Man257,

Apologies again for getting off topic. Me and Gman have discussions like this all the time. In fact, you should see our discussions on Twitter lol. 

Hopefully you're learning more about the film now since we've gotten to discussing it.