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I guess.. but it’s just too noticeable.

Ah, yes. Not a full motif but worth examination, certainly. It's definitely a piece that inspired the moment, but Williams actually uses more notes in his variation.

@Gman

I guess that’s true, but my main point really is that the writers for GVK would not be able to react to KOTM criticisms so to expect a better human story doesn’t seem actually based.

This isn't entirely accurate.

Godzilla: King of the Monsters wrapped filming in September of 2017 and was written by Micheal Dougherty and Zach Shields who headed a writer's room of 10 people. The treatment took a year before pre-production, so the screenplay was actually being written in 2016--Perhaps even late 2015.

In 2017, Terry Rossio was leading a writer's room of 8 people to come up with a treatment for Godzilla vs. Kong. Eric Pearson then took that treatment and turned it into a full screenplay. Dougherty and Shields only made minor re-writes late in the game--By which point they were already done with Godzilla: King of the Monsters.

So each movie actually had a lot of different writers involved with very little overlap. And even if there was overlap, Godzilla: King of the Monsters was long since in the can.

Normall I would dismiss this but they have the exact same chords at the later part of the theme

@Gman

Heres a theme that shows what I’m talking about, 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pM2SozsyPE

SarcasticGoji,
I think those fall more into inspiration for the theme, than flat out plagiarism. George Lucas even asked John Williams to base his score off of movies that Korngold specifically scored.

And while many, including Williams, has cited The Planets as inspiration, specifically Mars, The Bringer of War, I honestly don't hear it all that deeply.

In fact, I don't think anything in Star Wars does it justice as much as Star Trek. Nicholas Meyer, the director of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, wanted to use The Planets as the main score for the movie. He didn't have the budget to secure the rights, so he picked the excellent Cliff Eidelman to compose a score inspired by it. I think Eidelman's inspiration from Mars is far more apparent in the opening cue: Star Trek VI Main Title. But still not plagiarism.

I called this back in October. This is based off the "Mosasaurus Godzilla" concept by Keita Amemiya. It's from the Entertainment Bible: New Edition Godzilla Encyclopedia.

my point still stands.

Not everything was "plagarized" and most was likely influence or coincidence, I just wanted to bring it up. Thats only a small part of JOhn William's work on star wars

its like the scene in Godzilla vs KIng GHidorah where the guy thinks Goji will remember him but goji kills him

we dont know the others scenes tho, they might make the movie worse.

I was thinking of Jurassic Park rather than Star Wars when I mentioned John Williams

Toho: We retconned Titanosaurus into Godzilla Aqualatis.

Me:

Money.

@Gman

1940’s movie with eeriely similar theme, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf47W9rXzRM

A motif from Rite of Spring and the Introduction music of Tatooine are COMPLETELY indistinguishable.

A theme in the fourth Movie, forgot which one (if I heard It i’d identity it), is almost exactly Gustav Holts “Mars” from his “The Planets” work.

I don't think Star Wars has a lot of plagiarized cues, it's just very recognizably John Williams' style. Which is fine, Ifukube is the same way.

Both have somewhat redundant compositional "voices", but what fantastic voices they have. Every John Williams score is a gift.

Is it connected to SHIN GOJI?!

@Xeno

Noooo... Star Wars has the most plagiarized music I’ve ever heard

Why not, It’d be fun. You write in the dimensions of each egg and name them all

0_o 

....

. NO

Hey, u didn’t do every single egg. I counted about 12,706

Gimmie!

The movie has actually made 358.6 million as of now, not 338 million.

Oh yeah, I would love to know what a John Williams rendition of the Godzilla theme would of have been like.

I get chills just imagining what a zimmer Godzilla theme would sound like..

sweet

Cool

I strongly encourage mods to delete the Previous thread.

Oh, that’s kinda sad.

Alright!

well i released another ROTK chapter

yeah, so? is there anything else? just two stills from the movie? thats it?.......????????????????????????????????

darn

I say Ghidorah

very sad day

Okie. Very sad day.

DANNY GONZALEZ YOU SAY? :>

ok ok but still, that's a funny coincidence

ANOTHER ok ok, E P I C

i like the warm colors

But still, Mecha G can beat Gipsy.

Spoiler Alert!

Just kidding, I watched it 2 weeks ago...

Cool

Mechagodzilla was fighting a weakened Godzilla,so him handling Godzilla with ease doesn't seem like a factor anymore.