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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumRealism in 2014 Godzilla Discussion
This is an awesome discussion, you definitely know your stuff. I actually do hope Godzilla still has his regenerative powers. It's understandable that it would'nt be realistic, but the movie's gonna be about a 400 ft tall dinosaur who breathes atomic breathe, I think it's safe to say we can believe this Godzilla can have regenerative powers. In addition there are creatures in real life with regenerative powers, like lizards/sea stars that can regrow limbs and body parts, even deer can regrow broken antlers; you could apply this to Godzilla's armor. If the guy can still breath atomic rays, I think it's safe to say he can heal wounds quickly. After all I wouldn't imagine a Godzilla without regeneration surviving very long with just a thick hide, we'd just launch armor piercing missiles at him and he'd be done. No fun.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumStiff competition
I didn't even know about the Disney movie and the Oz movie. The real threats are X-Men and Spider-Man, but it's not like either franchise have been doing what it used to do. [i]The Amazing Spider-Man[/i] sold less tickets than the previous three films. It made $70 million less domestically than the weakest performing Spider-Man movie, [i]Spider-Man 3[/i]. X-Men is somewhat in the same boat. [i]X-Men: First Class[/i] was the fifth weakest selling X-Men movie, both domestically and worldwide. Making over $20 less than [i]X-Men Origins: Wolverine[/i] (which was only a solo X-Men outing) and over $10 million less than the first [i]X-Men[/i] which was released over 13 years ago. Tickets cost less then. Meanwhile, [i]The Wolverine[/i] made $15 million less than [i]First Class[/i], which is not what Fox was hoping for considering [i]X-Men Origins: Wolverine[/i] was such a massive hit. The difference is that [i]X-Men: Days of Future Past[/i] is much bigger movie than the prior two X-Men movies. There's a chance getting the original cast together with the [i]First Class[/i] cast will generate more buzz. But, like [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]Days of Future Past[/i] hasn't been advertised either. Very few people know it's a movie crossing over two casts and some don't even know it's coming out. (Like [i]Godzilla[/i]. That will change for both movies in the coming months.) Potentially, I think [i]X-Men Days of Future Past[/i] is the biggest threat. [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] is as well, but I'm not as afraid of it as X-Men. The fact is the new Spider-Man had a very lukewarm reception and there was even talk of scrapping the sequel because it performed so much weaker than its predecessors. I see it doing about the same amount of business the last one did. One thing that [i]Godzilla[/i], [i]X-Men[/i] and [i]Spider-Man[/i] all have going for each other is the fact that they're some of the first big, blockbuster movies of the season. One of the reasons that [i]Pacific Rim[/i], [i]The Wolverine[/i] and [i]Riddick[/i] underperformed is because[i] Iron Man 3[/i], [i]Man of Steel[/i] and [i]Star Trek into Darkness[/i] came first. And even [i]Star Trek[/i] underperformed, because [i]Iron Man 3[/i] made a billion dollars so quickly. There's only so much money to go around and for the most part, this year at least, the early summer movies cannibalized the others. Especially [i]Iron Man 3[/i]... I'm happy [i]Godzilla[/i] is coming out a lot earlier than [i]Pacific Rim[/i] did.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumRealism in 2014 Godzilla Discussion
Personally I'm not a fan of this realism, and here's why. David Goyer who wrote for most of this movie and has written for a few other movies so based off his past work the realism idea is suspended enough that the main character can be seen, but anything outside those bounds if off limits. This means space monsters, magic, and mechs will be out of the question leaving only the mutants as other potential monsters without back story changes. The realism will also have to encompass his beam making in probably a lot weaker than it has been for the last few installments which I'm okay will as I've said before I'd like to see a fight reminiscent of Godzilla raids again that actually looks like monsters fighting, but I know a lot of the fan will probably not be as happy. The military will have to have a lot more effect. Even if the monster has extremely hard skin the level our military power is at at the current time is also ridiculous and while it's a basic staple of Godzilla movies for the monster to shrug off military attacks from a realistic perspective it wouldn't be that easy, and they would have to have some effect, whether that be wounding or just driving away the monsters. The main characters will also be quite difficult to fit into this realistically, and have them at least matter. For the most part it follows a marine, with his wife and a scientist, but realistically none of these characters would be able to even come close to godzilla, as the radiation he would put out would borderline fatal making me wonder what makes them so special that I should care besides maybe Bryan Cranston's character as the scientist. The realism that is put in this movie has to be very small, only encompassing certain aspects if they really want to have this be a good movie. It's godzilla so the fact they're doing at all just because it seems to be a trend right now is something I'm not a fan of. Hopefully the realism ends with how the characters and society copes with the monster attacks rather than going for the full out this is realistically what would happen if a giant radiation breaking monster appeared.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla ForumGodzilla's future at TOHO?
I hope this film IS Godzilla's future. No more suit movies.
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ChrisGodzilla 2014 ForumRealism in 2014 Godzilla Discussion
Great thread, some really good points mentioned here. I'm curious to see what others will add to this discussion.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumMy estimation on the 2014 Godzilla size!
Although Gareth has stated this Godzilla will be slightly taller, you have to wonder just how much that is. Is it 350 ft? Doubt it. Maybe 375 ft? Sounds more like it. I'd personally love if this Godzilla reached 400 ft. It'd just be awesome to have that label, I want Godzilla to be gigantic; big enough for escape to seem impossible for true terror, but small enough to still be beside buildings.
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ChrisGodzilla 2014 ForumStiff competition
I dunno, even as a kid, Godzilla ALWAYS took precedence over any Super Heroes, no matter which it was. With the tone Edwards and company are going for with [b]Godzilla 2014[/b], it will tailor to both younger audiences as well as older ones. Yes, Godzilla will have some stiff competition, but I think the public will very soon grow tired of all these super-hero movies being jammed down our throats. So, my money is on Godzilla. Remember too, Godzilla's opening in Japan - will be HUGE. Will probably blow Spider-Man 2 and the next X-Men film clean out of the water.
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GreenZilla93Godzilla 2014 Forumhow awesome is this movie going to be?
Hmm... I'd guess maybe about a 7... that's on a scale of 1 to 5 so thats a really big number.
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GodzillasaurusGodzilla 2014 ForumNew users please read!
It was NOT floating in the air... You are mistaken And I already said that it was more of a multi-limed reptile than a centipede
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GodzillasaurusGodzilla 2014 ForumMy estimation on the 2014 Godzilla size!
Gareth Edwards stated that this Godzilla will be only a hair taller than the tallest official Godzilla (which is 100 meters tall). Your best bet for his height in this movie would be 110-120 meters tall. The Marvel Godzilla is NOT a real Godzilla. In fact, it wasn't even close to 600 feet tall! The official stats for the monster on Marvel Wiki say that it is only somewhere between 20,000 tons and 60,000 tons. Marvel Godzilla is NOT the biggest Godzilla
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TheGMan123Godzilla 2014 ForumStiff competition
Well,we G-fans just have to hope and support this movie as much as we can! It won't be easy,but we have to show the world why the movie industry has Godzilla to thank for helping make it a big thing!
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
I think we will have trailer by November 3, 2013. If I were them, I wouldn't miss the November 3, 1954 date (this was when Godzilla was first made). By then, they'd have a better and even more interesting trailer than the leaked Comic Con one. Of course, I also expect a trailer during the Super Bowl.
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 Forumhow awesome is this movie going to be?
I think this film is going to be #1 in the theaters for months on end at least! Just from the leaked 2012 Comic Con trailer it seems to be very cool so I can't wait to see it!
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 Artbook
Sounds very informative. Though if this book were written by Godzilla the title would be "The Art of Destroying a City".
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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
At least we got a teaser for some 2014 Godzilla merchandise, and the name of one of the two monsters. I only wished we got a teaser image for the toy itself.
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**Al**Godzilla 2014 ForumGodzilla 2014 Artbook
Hi GodzillaAttacks, and yes we got some information abut it in this post, [url=http://www.godzilla-movies.com/community/forums/topic/27097]GODZILLA: THE ART OF DESTRUCTION[/url], but it was a couple of months ago, and I'm interested if somebody already got news about this book. ''It's going to be a 156-page hardcover authored by Mark Cotta Vaz, published by Insight Editions. Besides the art, there will be interviews with the director Gareth Edwards and the crew. I'll review it when it's out.' [url=http://www.parkablogs.com/content/upcoming-godzilla-art-of-destruction]source.[/url]
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GuyvanticGodzilla ForumGodzilla's future at TOHO?
Depending on how the American Godzilla does this time around, will in effect Godzilla\'s future. As I have told some Godzilla fans at work, I expect the movie to do as well here like Pacific Rim did if not slightly better due to the name, but really take off in countries like Japan. If things tank with this new movie, then we are liable to see another round of movies made by TOHO like they did when the Tri-Star Godzilla crashed and burned. If Toho starts making Godzilla movies again I personally would love to see a movie in which we have a worthy Godzilla vs Godzilla, Japanese vs American. I would not want them to use any of the following monsters because they have been over used: Mothra, King Ghidorah, Mecha-Godzilla, Rodan, Angilas (who is my second favorite), Gigan who is on the verge of being over used. I would like to see TOHO use some of the lesser used monsters like Ebirah, Hedorah, Varan, maybe see Space-Godzilla and Destoroyah return, and finally bring Bagan to life. I at least would like to see another long running series like the Showa where the lesser monsters are used, and if Mechas have to be used, have them in the very last movie. I mean there is what, including Mechani-Kong in King Kong Escapes, 8 movies in which Kaiju fight mecha and now there is Pacific Rim and Pacific Rim 2 in the works. I dont want to see another Mecha for a good while. As for the suit comments, I am praying that they use a suit for this movie, I will be slightly disappointed if they didnt, but I realize that the suit-actor era has pretty much ended with Godzilla Final Wars and Gamera the Brave. Like Gojira signified the end of Stop-motion, so did the Tri-Star Godzilla signify the beginning of the end of suit acting which, barely used a suit in the movie (like when Zilla comes through the pavement for the first fish-bait trap and a couple other scemes) and culminated with King Kong, Dragon Wars, and Cloverfield. Its just alot cheaper to use CG. Whether TOHO themselves use CG when they barely have IMO, will remain to be seen.
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MiketheG7453Godzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
I wish I could be as optimistic as you guys about November but, we all know WB is marketing this movie. Not Legendary. And with the way the marketed Pacific Rim, I am going to think mid April we will see our first commercial . Maybe a trailer in March at the earliest.
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shambsGodzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
I wait all the news with a grain of salt
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shambsGodzilla ForumGodzilla's future at TOHO?
I would like to see a few animes, spin offs, movies, and some crossover with Pacific Rim, Cloverfield and Cthulhu.
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shambsGodzilla 2014 ForumShould there be more than one of Muto?
I also think that "Muto" is a reference to the type of kaiju
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shambsGodzilla 2014 ForumNew users please read!
[quote]The thing in the first trailer was NOT a centipede. It is more like a multi-limbed lizard or dragon.[/quote] I was thinking the same thing when I saw the trailer; It's not very similar to a centipede, and as you said looks more like a reptile type creature. BTW thanks for the head up, I guarantee you that I will not repeat the threads that have already been discussed to the death XD
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Mecha-GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumShould there be more than one of Muto?
Im not really a big fan of his name, but we know that he has 6-8 legs and is NOT a spider... if you saw the first leaked trailer online you could have seen something that was a dark red colored, Baragon-like skin, but i dont think that is Muto
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Reggie1138Godzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
Regardless of what most of us thought about the movie itself in November of 1998 the first trailer for Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace was released and it looked great and that film was released in May of 1999. I have faith that a very polished trailer can and will be released this November. Although I doubt Nov. 3rd will be the date. Good things our coming guys it will not be long now.
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kaijufan2014Godzilla 2014 ForumShould there be more than one of Muto?
THEGMAN123, I agree. I don't think that's the official name for this monster. I hope we get a trailer on November 3rd, highly doubtful, but maybe. As for the kaiju seen in the 2012 SDCC trailer. I think its a giant salamander
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BrittkampGodzilla 2014 ForumHaven't seen the trailer yet?
Please hope I'm not too late! PLEASE send to britt_chris@hotmail.com
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BigbyGodzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
I get the immense hype and not to be pretentious at all but are people buying figure sets without seeing what they are? I am definitely up for buying Godzilla 2014 merchandise but I would personally like to see what I'm buying! I will be buying figures for the film but after at least a picture of it! I know there wont be any at the moment as it will spoil aspects of the film etc, but why buy a figure set that you haven't even seen? Maybe I'm just being a prat but it doesn't make sense to me... Completely agree with you InstinctiveGigan on Legendary playing viral marketing games, seems to be working if it is the case.
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BigbyGodzilla 2014 ForumNew users please read!
The reason being is new people visiting the site will see the latest news, get excited, want to voice their opinions, and hey presto there's a repetitive feed. Its not like new users are going to come along and pour through the archives of existing threads to see if the thread has been discussed before. In all fairness repetition is going to be consistent as the information on the film is limited and only being slowly drip fed (we don't even have an official trailer online yet for starters).
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King Godzilla24.7Godzilla ForumGodzilla's future at TOHO?
With the technology we have now in film & post production. I'm pretty sure Toho would also bring back MechaGodzilla. Can you imagine that ? it would be awesome.
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FordBrodyLover99Godzilla ForumGodzilla's future at TOHO?
I wouldnt count new japanese Godzilla movies out done in suits. TOHO has "killed" of the character and to everyones suprise returned him. No one had expected Godzilla 2000, right? He could easily return.
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King Godzilla24.7Godzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
I was told yesterday through email that they had some back in stock & i purchased mines right away as soon as i got the email.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
[i]"Post-production in filming is the easiest part of the whole process. Pre-production is the most important since the whole process of everything after depends on it, and production is the hardest part because it's all planning and doing. But editing, special effects, and so on isn't that hard to get done in comparison. Especially since they can edit and add special effects WHILE they're still filming."[/i] Eh... Calling any part of filmmaking "the easiest part" is a very, very bold statement, but if we have to label it as such I disagree completely that it's the "easiest part". If anything pre-production is easier simply because all the planning, story boarding, designs, location scouting, casting...etc... is done. It's all about making sure production and post-production go smoothly. It's the most important part in order to make sure the production runs well, agreed, but it's fairly stress free in comparison to the editors, sound design team, foly, CG, practical, visual, composite and other effects driven teams that have to complete their jobs in order for the cut to be finished. Just because parts of a film can be cut and worked on in post while the movie is being shot doesn't make their job any easier. [i]"For example, the new trailer they showed this year at Comic Con with the airport and "Muto" was all footage from the actual film. It was edited, cut, and had special effects in it like the film was already done even though Gareth said they'd barely finished filming the day before. Meaning that they did special effects and editing during and after filming; and that was around 3 months ago. Trust me, they can and WILL have a perfect trailer ready by Nov. 3rd. It all depends on what Legendary and Warner Bros. believe would be the best time to advertise the film."[/i] I agree having a trailer out by Novermber 3rd is possible, but to expect a huge chunk of the film to be polished and used in a trailer is pretty unrealistic. For example, even with the Comic-Con footage, the shots were unfinished. The halo jump did feature the red smoke and the airport attack used incomplete CGI. No doubt that footage was some of the most complete, but that's not saying a whole lot. There's an entire cut of a film that needs to refine the visual effects, color correction and various aspects of sound. This process will go on probably until March at the latest. That's not to say there isn't usable footage, but I wouldn't be surprised if the first official teaser doesn't reveal much effects-wise. [i]Thor 2 and the Hobbit are the perfect films to do this since Thor 2 and the Hobbit 2 are already predicted to be a huge budget success with both normal movie-goers and total nerds going to see both. We're talking millions of people going to see these movies. No film before May 16th 2014 (Godzilla 2014's release date) will be this successful financially; not the 300 prequel, not the Seventh Son, nothing. Legendary WILL release the trailer on one of these two movies. It's commone knowledge and a no-brainer for a film company. Trust me. I'll give everyone 5 bucks if the trailer doesn't come on the Hobbit or Thor.[/i] I agree [i]The Hobbit[/i] is most likely, but I'm not going to assume what the marketing team analysts have reviewed and rest easy that it's when we'll see something. A Godzilla trailer appearing appearing in front of [i]The Hobbit[/i], or not, wouldn't surprise me either way. But I'm fairly positive we won't be getting one on November 3rd. On another topic, I do think [i]The Amazing Spider-Man 2[/i] (which also doesn't have a trailer yet) coming out the week before [i]Godzilla[/i] will be as successful financially. And [i]Seventh Son[/i] was pushed to November 2014, so no worries waiting on that one.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
Post-production in filming is the easiest part of the whole process. Pre-production is the most important since the whole process of everything after depends on it, and production is the hardest part because it's all planning and doing. But editing, special effects, and so on isn't that hard to get done in comparison. Especially since they can edit and add special effects WHILE they're still filming. For example, the new trailer they showed this year at Comic Con with the airport and "Muto" was all footage from the actual film. It was edited, cut, and had special effects in it like the film was already done even though Gareth said they'd barely finished filming the day before. Meaning that they did special effects and editing during and after filming; and that was around 3 months ago. Trust me, they can and WILL have a perfect trailer ready by Nov. 3rd. It all depends on what Legendary and Warner Bros. believe would be the best time to advertise the film. Thor 2 and the Hobbit are the perfect films to do this since Thor 2 and the Hobbit 2 are already predicted to be a huge budget success with both normal movie-goers and total nerds going to see both. We're talking millions of people going to see these movies. No film before May 16th 2014 (Godzilla 2014's release date) will be this successful financially; not the 300 prequel, not the Seventh Son, nothing. Legendary WILL release the trailer on one of these two movies. It's commone knowledge and a no-brainer for a film company. Trust me. I'll give everyone 5 bucks if the trailer doesn't come on the Hobbit or Thor.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
@Durp004 Profits aren't counted until after orders are delivered and no one could pre-order the toys at present anyway because the company had none in stock. You got an "item sold out" logo if you tried to order. No one's losing money over anything by pulling the page down. The same people that tried to pre-order will still be buying the products. Including me.
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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
I'm really starting to think Legendary is playing us like a master puppeteer. I mean hyping up the Godzilla Encuonter, a perfectly legit and HD Teaser trailer "accidentally" getting leaked online, only for a 2nd one to follow, and now this? Something's up, all I know is I can't wait till the movie starts getting public advertisement (hopefully November 3rd) so all this stupid mumbo jumbo can stop.
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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
I was more or less agreeing with you-- sort of. You said it was "nowhere near complete" in terms of editing, which probably isn't true, but the post refinement comments probably are. And you made no mention of [i]Thor 2[/i] or [i]The Hobbit[/i]. I do however believe we'll see it before the super bowl.
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
I think it was just to test the waters. They know that there's some hardcore Godzilla fans, they probably just wanted to see if people were willing to purchase merchandise. But, then again. maybe they're just being assholes.
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Durp004Godzilla 2014 ForumFigure preorders not available to purchase anymore.
So to hide spoilers which weren't a big deal to the movie's storyline they possibly cut their profits depending how long the keep those away. Hmm makes sense.....
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BCrockett94Godzilla 2014 Forumtrailer on november 3?
Ah, so there going the Willy Wonka route, eh? [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ggwthpVG1ruft91o1_250.gif[/img]
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