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Ok, nevermind.
I really want a Russell/Brody team-up. Preferably with Madison and Sam.
this is the best thread ever
hAhA gOtEm
anyways yeah that was a joke
but still, this looks pretty cool i like it
well this relavation contridicts my own godzilla evolution since in both Gojiverse and Rise of the Kaiju Godzilla evolved from the bipedal dinosaurian Gojirasaurus.
Scaly Quadruped is the most powerful name I've ever witnessed
But yeah, it actually looks pretty sweet! XENO INCLUDE THIS IN THE GOJIVERSE- ok im joking
Zhang Ziyi is chinese, i would like to see Yuminko Shaku to appear in a MonsterVerse movie
Wait, Doug is PROTOGODZILLA?
What the actual ****?!
Also couldn't they have come up with a more creative name???
wow crazy good art!
Um, Zhang Ziyi returned?
bring in a japanese actor or actress
@G. H. (Gman) Yeah, now that you've pointed that out it does make a lot more sense. To loosely use an old meme "Maybe it's not the movie the world deserved, but the one it needed?".
Thinking about it, this could also explain why certain parts of the movie felt like a puzzle with certain parts missing. Maybe the movie was heavily re-edited to better fit this more casual mindless fun theme instead of the more thought-out plot of the previous movies. Maybe that's even why the trailer took so long to come out? I'm going down a whole new rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, but I'll let you decide.
It also does explain a lot why I and some others didn't like this movie as many others seem to do. For me personally, I really enjoy those more brainy and meaningful elements in movies, especially with Godzilla/Kaiju movies. It's the same reason why I stopped with the Fast and Furious franchise, just stuff happens for reasons unknown, physics just doesn't matter until they do? Godzilla movies especially have always had that more meaningful perspective on it, heck without it the big G wouldn't even exist. Then again, Godzilla has always changed depending on the times, going from an effect of war to a superhero to a force of nature to the embodiment of dying soldiers. It's weirdly always been part of the character.
As you mentioned, I'm really interested to see how in 5 years or so people will look back on this movie and if it will hold up as well as it does now. If anything I hope people will at least start to notice some of the flaws the movie has on rewatch. I hope if the Monsterverse continues, they do lean back to the more plot-driven stories of the previous movies, but only time will tell I guess.
And yeah, I would love this.
Hmm, very interesting. Always down for Biollante in literally anything so that's a great start. I do think Ren Serizawa could return for this as well seeing as I feel like there is still a lot more that could be done with the character. I've heard some theories/ideas floating around about Ghidorah's soul taking over his body after MG was defeated which could be very interesting.
Also, love the inclusion of Sam Brody! I really missed any appearance/mention of the Brody family in the previous movies and something like this would work so well especially with Madison in the mix (Kind of makes me annoyed they didn't do that for GvK)
KaijuBuildz,
I think part of it is, "right place, right time." I'd argue under normal circumstances, GvK wouldn't have done nearly as well or have been reviewed nearly as positively. But the fact is it's the first major release since Wonder Woman 1984 disappointed in December and I believe there's reason for its success.
As much as I don't like it, it's not a message movie. It's not self-important. And it doesn't remind anyone of current events. People are tired. They don't want a self-important, brainy, sci-fi espionage flick like Tenet from last summer. (Which is a great movie--Don't get me wrong.) They don't even want to be reminded they need "hope" from Wonder Woman 1984--That implies there's something wrong. Godzilla vs. Kong offered unadulterated, mindless, cheap escapism that took them as far away from the covid-era existence as possible. It was a complete exit from reality that offered audiences something to cheer for and it was enough to reinvigorate life in theaters.
This is probably the only instance I, or others, will critique a movie based on the point of time it's released. However, the extremity of the last year seems to necessitate and even justify it.
I agree with you and YeOldFossil, completely. The movie is a two hour lapse in logic, character work and nuance. I'm very curious as to how this movie will age. Will it be remembered for how it resuscitated cinemas? Or will it retroactively be seen as a mess we all gave a free pass due to the times? Or both? Personally, I think too many are still on their honeymoon phase with the movie to know for sure.
Thank you!! I'm so happy someone else pointed it out. Though I do believe a lot of additional scenes for Ren's character specifically were cut, this movie leaves A LOT to be desired when it came to the human story.
Another example for me was the villain's daughter character who entered the movie 1/3 of the way in, did literally nothing to the point of me forgetting she was there until she betrayed after which she was killed pretty much immediately. Btw, am I the only one who wondered how their plan to collect the energy source for MechGodzilla didn't account for the 100-meter tall ape?
Also maybe it's because I'm biased to King of the Monsters but how can critics go from "To much humans, not enough Godzilla" with Godzilla 2014 to "To much monsters, not enough human" with KotM and then to "Just brainless fun, who cares about the human story anyway"? I know that this is very much simplifying it, but I genuinely find it weird how these general opinions can change and interdict so much, especially since (in my opinion) the Characters in KotM were better than GvK. Then again, maybe I'm just not seeing something here that others are, I really don't know anymore?
Great, am I right?
True. But it would be awesome to see nevertheless....
Paramount won't let Clover go. Especially when they're developing their own sequel.
This where I usually remind people that most early cuts for almost every film is 5 hours or more and has to be whittled down.
But YeOldFossil makes excellent criticisms otherwise. All very valid points.
Naw, for me Millie wins.
What about Clover?
And quite Frankly, he is shit at storytelling. 5 hours total filmed and he couldn’t even try to include more story. Why was Ren even there? Why does Josh exist? Why not include the scenes where the guy finds his brother’s broken ship? Could have been a good moment that brought team Kong together where Jia and the women help home cope. Where are they getting skull crawlers? Also, show don’t tell. Show me Kong saving Jia, show me Godzilla looking physically tired and injured to 50% like Adam said in his interview. Bleeding wounds from the axe and whatnot. He really didn’t deliver anything impressive but the CGI was good and the fight ok. Just didn’t deliver much of anything else and cut way too much.
I mean, yeah, it's a movie about two giant monsters, big monke and big lizard, having basically a death battle. AND it was a battle that happened way back in the 60s, and we wanted a rematch. People love that stuff.
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This is so funny to watch.
Yes they do occasionally need help. But the thing about Kong is that he never needed help before. He always managed to survive alone and even took title as king and alpha of Skull island. But fair, maybe a little assistance every now and then, but it was literally every fight scene Kong needed to be saved. Even against the warbats which he should have been able to handle alone without the help. Kong looked like he couldn’t win a single fight without someone saving him. It’s Kong Kong, put some respect on his name. They couldn’t just make him Look like he was a powerhouse for one moment in the movie or actually do any real serious damage to Godzilla. Movie is called GvK and Kong didn’t come close to even looking like he was actually going to win even with the axe. It’s pretty clear Adam is more of a Godzilla fan so just give him a Godzilla movie and Give Kong to someone that actually wants to make Kong look like a total badass king that thrived against the odds despite being alone for his whole life surrounded by monsters that want to kill you. Get the guy who directed Skull island or find someone else.
I felt bad for Kong at the end of GvK like he needs a family. He was really excited to find them braving hollow Earth wich he clearly was not a fan of, then just finds bones and his only friends are basically insects. Godzilla wont even hang out with him. Yeah they need to make Son of Kong, just hope its nothing like the original Son of Kong. That was a extremely depressing film and after Kong's shitty childhood he deserves a happily ever after. Would be really nice if the Kongs became allies with Rhedosaurus!
As for Godzilla... they did give him a proper send off. I dont want them to fuck that up. However clearly shin and singulair point are so far off that Toho is just trying to find a team that can do the job and no one can replace Tsuburaya or Kawakita so it's a constant reboot and they keep fucking it up. Legendary needs to get the contract back unless Toho is willing to go back to a traditional Godzilla using suitmation and show some respect for the Dragons damn it.
I'm so in for a Godzilla monsterverse game. A Mortal Kombat style game would be so cool but I imagine something like where the characters are colossal and buildings and stuff surrounding them looks tiny and they destroy the city while fighting. While playing you will feel the destruction they cause if you know what I mean. I love Mortal Kombat so much that I've been abroad last month to rent a property in France for my company and we ended up playing Mortal Kombat all week with my brother on his couch who lives there for over 5 years. I could barely finish my business there..
Behemoth is a big mean dude. I'd wet myself right away if I've seen it in reality.
en I'm kinda good with that, I mean maybe in the hollow earth we might get to see some classic kaijus like Baragon, Varan, Anguirus, or gorosaurus IF they make it into the monsterverse for the next kong film.
sorry I forgot some of those its been since 2014 which is the last time I watched a Showa and Heisei movie. I never reached the Millennium series and never saw Gamera or King Kong Escapes
And King Kong Escapes, Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. Gigan, Terror of MechaGodzilla, Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, Godzilla: Final Wars, just about every Gamera...
I remember a long time ago I thought of my own THEM! and Godzilla crossover...it's a long story.
#AnguirusfortheMonsterverse
It's definitely an interesting monster. I really like it's design.
