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if you read what i said the majority of the audience who will watch this movie will not have seen gojira and you can't force everyone around the world this movie shows in theatres to watch gojira
these is a diffrence to those movies than to this movie, those movies were made in japan, i'm pretty sure there are more japanese people who have watched 1954 compared to america
I don't know how to answer the second question, but I can answer the first one.
Godzilla is ICONIC. Why make a "sequel" to a film that is 60 years old? Have you heard of "The Return of Godzilla", "Godzilla 2000: Millenium", "Godzilla vs Megaguirus", "Godzilla, Mothra, & King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out-Attack", "Godzilla X Mechagodzilla", and "Godzilla: Final Wars"?
Those were all sequels to the original film. "Final Wars" came out exactly 9 years and 3 months before today. Remember, that was a sequel to "Gojira (1954)". Does it matter that the first movie was made 60 years ago, given the fact that there have been 6 non-Showa sequels to it?
Think about that for a moment.
Interesting observation. Not entirely sure I agree (irony?) with all of it, but I certainly think your hitting on something close to the chest.
I guess the main thing is I can't really relate to your situation. I've always been a nerd, yes, but I was in the odd, undefined group between geek and athlete. I've always loved Batman, Godzilla, anime...etc... but I was a key soccer player, a running back for a few years and an elite, collegiate track runner.
I've never been chastisized for liking Godzilla. People have taken jabs at me for it, absolutely, but I guess I never minded. It was all in good fun and no more condemning than locker room talk. Part of it might be because I got to know Godzilla as very all-encompassing franchise from the get go.
Godzilla vs. Gigan was my first Godzilla movie. Granted that's practically a kids movie, but my second Godzilla film was Godzilla 1985, which was much more broad. I suppose that told me that Godzilla could work for anyone if given the chance. When I was growing up plenty of my own friends heard me out and gave it a chance. If one movie wasn't their thing then another was. It made perfect sense to me at the time and it still does-- in fact such an introduction still works.
I think part of the "serious," "dark" and "villianous," stuff is currently a trend for era. It might speak out from some people's personalities, but I mostly blame the cultural success with things like "The Dark Knight" (which I love, don't get me wrong), current, twisted horror movies and a strange movement torward some kind of neo-naturalism. It's a fad and it will go away in favor of something else one of these days.
Indeed about 90% of this is how we grow up, but I don't know if the specifics in your generalization apply to everyone. I think it also has to do with when we grew up as well, which, as I watch some students I coach grow, gets bleaker by the year.
Classic monsters forever. They should have a movie with Anguirus, Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah, Gigan and Megalon
It's simple. it's a concept called "OPINION". And with these opinions, we are allowed to have different ones.
@Gman
I always assumed the first breath was white or gray in color, personally.
As for the 'aura'-- this is more than signifed in several films. Best examples though is looking at the breath when it is illustrated in comics, particularly the dark horse ones that really emphasized the white with a blue aura.
^When the original film was released apparently there were audience members who assumed it was white. To this day there's fans who believe the agreed upon color for Godzilla's original breath weapon was white.
anouther thing, technically the breath is white (the beam version) it just emits a blue aurora around the beam, possibly chekov radiation
I....no. No Godzilla isn't fall in love with a human. Also those 'Coming Soon!' Bandai images have been confirmed to be fake. They stole images from this source:
http://kamakoa09.deviantart.com/art/Godzilla-2014-437835774
http://kamakoa09.deviantart.com/art/Godzilla-2014-i-shall-call-him-SQUISHY-437880906
It's hard to say at this point. I think finally seeing the movie would make it easier to answer this question. Once we see how they actually handle Godzilla in the film, tone-wise, we'll be able to gauge the answer to this question better.
I doubt it will have any connection to the original film. Everyone in the trailer look as if they've never seen or heard of Godzilla before, except for Watanabe's character. How do you keep a massive disaster like what happened in the original film a secret?
The 1954 stuff is probably just an homage to the original movie. Nothing more.
But to answer your post's question, I think it's a bad idea for the reasons you've already stated. Most people will have not seen the original film and adding on the history would alienate a broader audience.
Red flame is boring. Godzilla is a unique fire-breathing monster amongst other fire-breathing monsters. He fires a blue beam because it distinquishes him from other creatures. Atomic Breath being any color but blue is just kinda... meh to me.
As for realism, technically the cooler the color of fire, the hotter it is. Some of the hottest substances in the known galaxy are practically white in color. Yeah, don't gimme the whole "Thermite is orange"-- I don't care. Thermite changes into all sorts of colors depending on what it is burning.
Besides, what is the point of having a powered up red beam if he is firing it all the time? I like the red breath to be a powered up version, while the blue is the basic-- but that is just me. It seems like that'd be more pleasing to the red-breath fans because then it basically states that RED IS SUPERIOROROROROR.
i'd prefer a clean slate with probably 1 or 2 toho monsters, if they mostly do a clean slate they can make things that will surprise g-fans and movie goers
also we all know godzilla's breath is highly radioactive, while it's common in pop culture to represent radiation in a green colour, radiation is mostly invisible except for chekhov radiation, which if you type it up, is a type of radiation found comonly around a nuclear reactor and guess what colour it is, neon blue, it actually looks like the same colour as the classic blue atomic breath, so it is not unrealistic if a radioactive breath is blue. also the fact they have already overused the colour red for everything else, a red breath seems boring
I took images from the empire magazine and combined them for the textless poster and use the logo thats on the official site for the other one
You already posted this exact same topic with your customized roar yesterday. Please don't spam the board with repeat topics. Thanks.
I'm inclined to agree Junkerde. Done and done.
I don't see the color of Godzilla's ray affecting realism or "seriousness" (which is slowly becoming the most overrated tone in the cinematic repertoire) one way or another.
That said, based on the toy and even the insinuation in the Snicker's commercial, I pretty sure it will be blue. The actually breath substance itself my look different, but I'm 90% sure the color will be blue.
I like that they use the original Godzilla canon, its only that one film though and thats it.
I would love to see some of the more 'realistic' creatures like Rodan and Anguirus make a return in a sequel, but it's most likely not going to happen. Mainstream audiences don't know who these characters are, and Toho would still charge a ton. Financially it just wouldn't be worth it.
both of the threads you made should really be combined by a Mod, the other thread being
1998 vs 2000
This wouldn't really be a fair fight. Godzilla 1990 is 100 meters tall, has a radioactive beam attack, and is invulnerable to most forms of harm.
Godzilla 1998 is 50 meters tall, got tangled in some bridge cables and was killed by a missile or two.
i don't think the elemnts from the heisei and millenium series will ever be implemented by gareth edwards including the spiral heat beam becuase i don't think gareth edwards has seen any of the movies in the heisei and millenium series, he's said in a Q&A that he's watched the HB Godzilla series first, then channel 4 aired some showa movies during the hype for 98 and only after 2004 did he get to watch the 1954 gojira (tanks to BFI) and the fact 54 had a major influence at such an older age must mean that it is a masterpeice
@andytak
that must be the worse fan-fiction theory ive ever heard xD
people beat down on zilla because he is an imposter who dosent resemble godzilla in any way. hes weaker then the original godzilla, and is also alot smaller
godzilla and zilla are not "male and female" of the same spieces. godzilla is a giant mutated dinosaur, while zilla is a mutated marine iguana.
the fact that godzilla is a nuclear mutation makes it unlikely that hes capeable of reproducing
As a child, I loved Godzilla because I thought his design was awesome and loved seeing him fight other awesome looking monsters. But as I grew older I started to appreciate other things about Godzilla, specifically the original Gojira. What truly made me a fan of Godzilla was realizing that he was so much more than a large, cool-looking animal. When I realized Godzilla was an allegory for the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings I never looked at him the same way again. It definitely made me realize just how terrifying the original movie is when trying to view it as someone who was actually there would. Seeing Godzilla as being a physical representation of the atomic age makes me realize what it means when he is referred to as a force of nature. It really puts it into perspective for me to think that one being could wield so much power. He is basically power incarnate. So,yeah. Thats what made me a big fan, rather than just a casual fan. Also, he stomps cities.
I for one think the red atomic breath would be better because it would beautifully compliment the new godzilla design. When you look at the new trailer, you don't see the short,plump godzilla with odd intelligence that came out 30 years ago (I think),no, you see a dark malovent creature, the sum of mankinds sins against itself, the true fury of mother natures wrath; and if you give something like that bright blue neon breath, no one is going to take that seriously. I respect the fact that fans are nostalgic about the blue breath but lets face it you gotta look at the bigger picture. Gareth Edwards wants the movie to be in-depth, emotionally compelling and subtley terrifying so that the movie can appeal outside of the godzilla community.
My favorite is Save the Earth for Xbox. I still play that game when taking a break from Dark Souls or Skyrim. If Unleashed had better controls, it would be my favorite but unfortunately thats not the case.
Cool idea Godzooki. I could see the use of bat DNA being an explination for this creatures origins in the movie.
I would love to see a new Godzilla game for the new consoles. I would love a Godzilla game with some RPG elements such as a leveling system, open world and a well written story. I think it could be done, I just don't see it happening. But here's to hoping ;)
i'd say two would be enough in the new one if they made a series, and it would have to be an adopted son, no biolgical bullshit becuase it doesn't feel right that godzilla has a biological son, i find it bettre that he finds a younger member of his species and takes it as his own
I always thought that crushed train car was from a foot, but i never noticed the prints in the sand. Cool find.
^I'm going to.
In the Showa series there were three Godzillas, the original, the second one and Minya.
The Heisei series there were three as well, the original, the Heisei Godzilla and Godzilla Jr.
In the Kiryu movies there were two, the original, whom became Kiryu and the new Godzilla Kiryu fought.
Dr. Yamane, at the end of the original film, speculated there were most likely more of Godzilla's species. There's no way to tell if he were the first of his kind because who knows how many Godzillas were still sleeping around the world or if the bomb simply obliterated the others and only two survived.
I think it's safe to assume the same with the new one.
@Jogher,
Thanks. I've seen the textless one before, where did you find the one with the red text?
I hate the trolls that use Godzilla to make fun of us. Nothing about the movie itself.
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