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i really want him, but he's so EXPENSIVE. lol
Huh, okay. I better look these guys up
Guys, Micheal Dougherty said that it was hard for him and Zach Shields to fit in a compelling human story due to all the monster action
Ok i knew they only had Japanese with no English subtitles or anything but i was just wondering about the ones with the slip covers thats disappointing i really wanted the ones with the slipcover just going to have to keep my eyes open im always late to the party when it comes to getting the cool stuff for Godzilla lol
G. H. (Gman): Exact screen time is nowhere as relevant as how the monsters will be portrayed, not simply "used". The runtime is interesting but ultimately not really that essential.
I believe the actual slip covers were just first releases--So that may be difficult to find. The re-releases in Japan you speak of are the exact same discs, they just include a special promotional sticker for Godzilla: King of the Monsters.
It should be noted that all of the Toho Blu-rays are Japanese language only. They do not include English subtitles.
MDK 2 (MinecraftDinoKaiju),
I agree those films have a low ratio, but a lot of that fell on the characters doorstep. In Monster Zero, Godzilla has less than 6 minutes of screen time, but the characters and general invasion story is so well revered and executed that no one really notices. The original 1954 film only had a percent higher than the 2014 flick and it's a powerful film with very memorable monster sequences.
I don't necessarily think it's all about how much screen time the monsters have, but how it's used. Much of the screen time Godzilla has in the 2014 film is taken up by his tail slinking behind a building or close-ups of his arm as he saunters by. Whereas, Monster Zero, for example, wasted no time tossing him straight in the action and plowing over buildings.
Additionally, the 2014 movie had a rather mundane main character that's further hurt by the fact that he doesn't interact with other lead characters for much of the duration. What Godzilla: King of the Monsters needs is a solid balance--The best of the series has always been able to intertwine the characters with the actions of the kaiju. Example: In Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster, while protecting Princess Salno, Detective Shindo is saved from Malmess's sniper fire when collateral from King Ghidorah kills Malmess. In Terror of MechaGodzilla, Katsura decides to kill herself, forcing MechaGodzilla to shutdown so Godzilla can take it out--The actions of both the characters and monsters end up effecting one another. I think that's what we're looking at here.
As for the other monsters--I think the fact that the "new" monsters are just background designs, inserted to establish that they are returning to claim the Earth, is a perfectly acceptable role. Not every single monster needs to "shine" necessarily--That's putting too much emphasis on their existence. It would be strange for characters to say, "monsters are appearing everywhere," but we don't see any of them. So the fact that these designs are used merely to establish that fact helps the audience visualize that more and more are appearing around. That's the narrative point of their existence and that's all they really need to do.
As far as the more physically present Ghidorahs come, it'll be hard to beat Keizer Ghidorah.
That guy stomped all over FW Godzilla, and that guy's still arguably the most powerful live-action Godzilla to date.
TheGMan123 Yeah, anime ghidorah is... OP to say the least
Yeah, no, Anime Ghidorah is DEFINITELY still the strongest.
Probably will be for a long while, seeing as how eating planets and nullifying Godzilla Earth in every way possible puts him on the highest tier of monsters in the franchise.
I saw that vid! It was hilarious
I think I saw it? I might be confusing it with another trailer though.....
The OG Goji Nope. Just another day on the website. ;)
I did, but I didn't want to spoil myself. I still hope it gets released online soon.
Anyone else think this King Ghidorah might actually be the strongest incarnation of King Ghidorah yet (including the anime King Ghidorah)? I know I do. I'm excited/terrified to see what this incarnation can do on screen. I can't wait.
You know, seeing this Ghidorah's power, i'm scared of Rodan dying
I love the idea of the unibeam i feel like if Ghidorah's gravity beams are on par with Godzilla's atomic breath then the unibeam could be like ghidorah's counterpart to Godzilla's spiral ray.
@MDK 2 What is this, Monster Island Buddies?!
Strato-breaker...
I like it!
Small but with a whole lotta fight in her! :D
The OG Goji That's what he said. Lol ;)
For Ghidorah's major light show, I think a better name would be "Expanding Gravity Storm".
I don't think he'll be using his wings to shield himself, but I think an even cooler way to do it would be using the Expanding Gravity Storm in a short burst to quickly deflect and nullify ranged attacks, perhaps naming it "Expanding Storm Shield".
We do see King Ghidorah use his Gravity Beams at point blank range in one of the quick clips seen in the "Run" TV spot, so he definitely has that going for him.
Another cool one he could do would be him using his physical bulk and aerial flight and combining it with his Expanding Gravity Storm for deadly combo attacks. He could rush in low to the ground or do a dive bomb straight at ground-bound Titans that's boosted by all the lightning.
G. H. (Gman) Still though, that's what I mean. With 2014's Godzilla screen time (ten minutes out of 123) and COTEOB (5 minutes and 45 seconds out of 100), that is what I meant when I was worried about the amount of screen time the monsters will share. I didn't include Final Wars because at least we had the action to cover us, as well as a good human story. With KOTM, I'm worried that we may not have an interesting human story despite the action.
Alsom, the other monsters are background fodder? Well then, I hope that they appear in either GvK in 2020 or in a future Toho movie so that they get their chance to shine. Otherwise, it's this:
Btw, it's a cool vid. You should check it out. (Same applies to everyone else.)
I just saw it on the twitter page itself. It looks awesome AND vicious. Who will win: #TeamMothra or #TeamRodan? (Insert my forum signature here.) It's gonna be awesome! :)
Welcome Dude! This is a pretty cool place!
WOW! Fantastic!!!
^This.
Just because Serizawa says there are "17 and counting," doesn't mean we will see all 17+ monsters. The main monster cast is Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah. The rest are merely background fodder to establish more and more monsters are creeping out of the woodwork.
For the sake of discussion though, there is no Godzilla movie where the monsters take up "half" the screen time. The average percentage Godzilla is on screen is 14% per film. The average amount of time he's on screen (which matters less, since each film has a different run time) is 13:36 per film. It's also worth noting that in each film Godzilla has the most screen time of all the monsters--with the exception of 3 movies.
While this doesn't include every monster it's worth bringing up for the sake of debate. This is a list of how long Godzilla is on screen in each film and what percentage of the movie said screen time takes up. The screen times are rounded to the closest 15th second:
Godzilla '54 (8:45 out of 96 minutes) 9.1%
Godzilla Raids Again (9:30 out of 92 minutes)10.0%
King Kong vs. Godzilla (9:15 out of 97 minutes) 9.5%
Mothra vs. Godzilla (10:30 out of 88 minutes) 11.9%
Ghidorah: The Three Headed Monster (8:00 out of 93 minutes) 8.6%
Monster Zero (5:45 out of 94 minutes) 6.1%
Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster (13:00 out of 87 minutes) 14.9%
Son of Godzilla (12:00 out of 86 minutes) 13.9%
Destroy All Monsters (8:30 out of 89 minutes) 9.5%
Godzilla's Revenge (8:15 out of 70 minutes) 11.8%
Godzilla vs. Hedorah (20:30 out of 85 minutes) 24.1%
Godzilla vs. Gigan (16:15 out of 89 minutes) 18.6%
Godzilla vs. Megalon (10:30 out of 81 minutes) 12.9%
Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla (7:55 out of 84 minutes) 9%
Terror of MechaGodzilla (9:30 out of 83 minutes) 11.5%
The Return of Godzilla (19:00 out of 103 minutes) 18.4%
Godzilla vs. Biollante (16:45 out of 104 minutes) 16.1%
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (14:45 out of 103 minutes) 14.3%
Godzilla vs. Mothra (15:15 out of 102) 15%
Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla '93 (27:00 out of 102) 26.5%
Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla (19:45 out 108) 18.2%
Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (20:15 out of 103) 19.6%
Godzilla 2000 (22:45 out of 107) 21.1%
Godzilla x Megaguirus (20:15 out of 105) 19.2%
Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (16:45 out of 105) 15.9%
Godzilla x MechaGodzilla (11:45 out of 88) 13.4%
Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S. (12:45 out of 91) 14.6%
Godzilla: Final Wars (15:00 out of 125) 12%
Godzilla '14 - (10:00 out of 123) 8.1%
Shin Godzilla - (17:30 out of 119) 15%
Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters - TBD
Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle (5:45 out of 100) 5.8%
Godzilla: The Planet Eater - TBD
Godzillatheking123 To be honest, the people on here are quite chill in comparison lol
ZillaDude345 Haha yeah
Gmkgoji
I enjoy how when you post everyone blows up arguing it is actually kind of funny
Yeah, I think Methuselah is the mountain kaiju, I could be wrong though
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#Go team Rodan
@Gmkgoji
Yeah, the source is on a TohoKingdom (his name is Sayaka). The guy that I contacted back in early August though also eventually went to the forums. His name is, ironically, Fake. He’s definitely legit.
Another detail I remembered (for heavens sake, the leak mentioned a Titan called Methuselah): at the end of the film via news clippings, a kaiju named Scylla goes to some lake while Rodan goes to Mt Fuji or Fiji, one of those two.
Raiga well okay than. i'm pretty sure my details are from toho kingdom as well
@Gmkgoji
The majority of those details don’t come from the leak. That comes from someone else not associated with the info my source has provided us. Those details along with the source are questionable, definitely not confirmed whatsoever, unlike my source.
Another detail that aren’t yet officially revealed but shown through the leak (for heavens sake, the leak even makes mention of a kaiju called Methuselah):
-Newspaper clippings at the end of the film reveal a kaiju called Scylla is located at some lake somewhere
MDK 2 (MinecraftDinoKaiju) Hate to burst your bubble, but uh... only 4 of the other 17 titans appear in the movie.
Just the monsters them selves. I love all of the godzilla monsters desgins. (expect for minilla) Thats what made me a godzilla fan!
TheGMan123 I hope so. But if not, well then, I told you so. But there's really only one way to find out. (Insert my forum signature here.)
