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Imagine highlighting these problems a year ago only to be lambasted and now everyone is on the same page.

Even then though, I'm less concerned about people liking what they like (if you're just a Monsterverse fan, then okay) and more concerned about the blatant disrespect and erasure for why some of these newer flicks exist at all. There's a mindset that people consider the first 32 or so films as "practice" (literally what someone once said) and the real series hasn't started until recently.

Let's forget I've found the last two Monsterverse disasters insufferable to sit through. There seems to be a prevailing idea that it's the series proper over anything else and that is unfortunate given the amount of diversity, experimentation and width that the series has pushed before 2014. Especially since the newer flicks are as bland as most MCU and Hollywood tent poles released lately.

I'm just glad Godzilla Day doesn't really push anything Monsterverse or Tristar related, so I don't have to endure it on his birthday.

And yeah, a part of me did just post this because monsterzero9 feels his topic is being buried and it's honestly one of the braver discussions he's tossed in the ring.

its almost like you made all these topics to drown out my criticism of the modern godzilla fan. 

completely neglecting all other godzilla films outside of the monsterverse?

wow that sure was a shameless plug

Is this....

spam posting?

that is the most ridiculous question ever.

yes

Xenotaris

Yeah, if Mechagodzilla wasn't built, Godzilla wouldn't have shown any aggression towards humanity and Apex wouldn't have taken Kong off of Skull Island to use him as a guide to get to the Hollow Earth energy source, which means that Godzilla and Kong wouldn't have crossed paths. So technically the events of GvK wouldn't have happened without Mechagodzilla.

So in other words had humans not messed with nature, the whole plot of Godzilla vs Kong could have been avoid. Those dumb humans but it goes to show that History shows again and gain how Nature points out the folly of man.

well Ghouls might look like zombies but they aren't undead. They are just irradiated humans that merely look like zombies or a burnt person. Cold blooded animals handle radiation differently in the Fallout universe, they grow in size while mammals lose their fur/hair.

HinikunaGoji 

Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla did contain some themes of humanity's recklessness with nuclear energy. 

In 2014, the MUTOs were uncovered by an attempt to mine for uranium, which resulted The Male MUTO awakening and attacking the Janjira power plant in order to feed on the energy from the reactors. The government then carelessly stored the Female MUTO's spore in an area with large amounts of nuclear weapons and waste, allowing the Female to feed off of it and grow. The Military shows even more carelessness with nuclear weapons by attempting to use nuclear warheads in an attempt to kill Godzilla and the MUTOs (despite Serizawa's warnings), which ends up backfiring and making the situation worse.

Shin Godzilla had less connection to the nuclear narrative, but still contained some of it, with the fact that Godzilla was created after barrels of nuclear waste were dumped in the ocean, with Godzilla being mutated after feeding on it.

Also, I wouldn't say that GvK and Singular Point were completely devoid of any themes.

GvK had some themes dealing with technology and man's hubris (specifically with the Mechagodzilla plot), with humanity attempting to harness a power beyond their control as a way of "over throwing the gods" (in this case Godzilla and the other Titans) in order to remain as the "apex species", which not only summons Godzilla's wrath, but ends up backfiring, resulting in Mechagodzilla's rampage and the downfall of Apex Cybernetics. Godzilla and Kong's conflict was pretty much started by Apex building Mechagodzilla, with them taking Kong off of Skull Island in order to use him to find the Hollow Earth energy source, which caused Kong to cross paths with Godzilla (who's attempt to destroy Apex ended up leading him to Kong).

And Singular Point had a bunch of physics and math lectures that it continued to beat the audience over the head with.

But gievn ghouls can be mutated animals and humans I would say goji could be one

Xenotaris

ping

Ypu guys are both great!! I love the artwork

Xenotaris

So could godzilla be called a zombie mutant, Idk much about fallout but Im guessing

I am jealous of your artistic skill.

Maybe I should posted this as Godzilla in the Fallout universe

HinikunaGoji 

i believe its your turn to post here Godzilla in the Fallout Universe

Well I like Showa, Heisei, Tristar was enjoyable while it lasted, and I desperately need to watch the Millennium era films. Monsterverse was also entertaining too, I haven't gotten into any of the Reiwa stuff yet

ANd here Godzilla vs kong

Heres godzilla vs mechagodzilla 

Cool Godzilla

Those are not people, those are bots that are given keywords that they automatically use and fill in. 

Swearing tantrums is pretty par the course per the internet. People swear.

No updates for today I guess.

Swearing Tantrums? Who would that be?

Not to mention the people that are not fans at all, It is not a problem but all they do is introduce websites and products. That wasn't that bad though, at least they weren't the ones that are rude. 

Wow God_Zilla, you reached 63XP in 1 day! That is very fast tbh.

God_Zilla Good Point.

monsterzero9 What would the topic be about?

I get the faithfulness of the nuclear metaphor, but, theres a reason thats not the focus point of any of the themes of any newer goji films.

Kotm had environmentalism, Gmk had National Guilt, Shin had Politics and Eldritch monsters, The earth trilogy had politics and Eldritch monsters, And Gvk and Sp had nothing.

Have fun with it, nuclear metaphor can be good, but it shouldnt be done just for the sake of being faithful

Idrc anymore. Im one of them.

Plus tbh most of the older fans probably liked the showa era, not bc of the "Themes" its fun to watch rubber monsters fight.

People like things for different reasons, I used to try to act older and gatekeep basically fans the same age as me to be mature. 

I mean sure themes and writing are nice, but theres a reason GvK brought in many new fans. Monke v Lizard

Its not the end of the world.

Also hesei age people, if you try to claim that you appriciated the dark tone of that era when you were like six, i mean i cant stop you, but its kind of weird.

I'm with G.H. (Gman), you kind of have to watch all of the godzilla movies to fully appreciate the characters, not just for Godzilla himself but for Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidorah as well. 

I know its a Herculean task but ya just got to do it, ya know

¯_("/)_/¯

How about a more stand-alone, nuclear metaphor Godzilla MV movie?

It'd be a perfect use for human characters like Madison 

That's a pretty good list.

Well, I do get the devastation messages.  I need to watch 1954 and maybe Shin, since those are where it's supposedly displayed the most.

But the fans are really toxic, and the studio giving in the toxicity doesn't help things.

I think a smaller cast of Titan/Kaiju would work better, this is the usual Toho approach. Not only this works for budget reasons but it allows the kaiju of the movie to shine. Why else do you think most of the godzilla monsters became so popular? 

Godzilla back in 1954, only had one kaiju, the King himself.

Godzilla was given a battle partner in 1955 in the form of Anguirus.

Rodan gave us two Rodans in his debut movie in 1956

Varan gave us Varan in his movie

Frankienstein vs the World again gave us two kaiju in the forms of Frankenstein and Baragon

Mothra gave us three kaiju, the skeleturtle, the man-eating plants, and Mothra herself. Also bringing in the idea of a benevolent kaiju to the series

Godzilla vs Kong introduced Kong to the Godzilla-verse

Then we had Godzilla fight Mothra in Godzilla vs Mothra

Then finally we had four kaiju grace the silverscreen in The Three Headed Monster Ghidorah which brought back Godzilla, Rodan, and Mothra to face the new enemy kaiju King Ghidorah.

The inbetween movies would have Godzilla mostly beat the crap out of some mook minor kaiju that were unremarkable until he faced a more impressive boss kaiju and some one-off kaiju movies in the interim. 

Fast forward to Destroy All Monsters. All kaijus that appeared in an earlier Toho movie were able to fight along side Godzilla in this movie to defeat King Ghidorah.

Then Toho went back to the more manageable four kaiju a movie strategy usually Godzilla (with a new Buddy or an old Buddy) and (Old Villian with a new Villian)

Oh I thought we were talking specifically MonsterVerse. if we are talking about actual kaiju, then classic Toho Mothra, Mothra Leo/Rainbow Mothra, Monster X/Kaiser Ghidorah, Desghidorah, Godzilla 54, Godzilla 2014, Heisei Godzilla, Godzilla 1998, Biollante, Gigan, and Space Godzilla

Wow, fortunately my first Godzilla movie was Godzilla vs The Astro Monster... technically my first piece of Godzilla media was Godzilla Pour Hour but I fully agree with your point. The classic Godzilla movies must be watched first to understand the character. I feel that Hollywood is too busy being afraid of offending certain groups of people.

oh yes, ¨bruh¨.

im going to make a topic about this.

I think that would be good 

tes, or else she probably would have destroyed SF, and she probably would have laid more eggs, and killed godzilla

bruh, never seen this before