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Pacific Rim did lose money overall but was successful in countries like China. The sequel wasn't greenlit because the first was profitable, it was because of the studio seeing potential for a bigger return at the sequel's box office, especially if they marketed the film more heavily in China.

As far as Godzilla vs. Kong goes, Toby Emmerich heavily implied that the studio was looking to delay the film, possibly for reshoots. I happen to think it's likely they will delay it. The chairman of a studio doesn't say things like that lightly.    

I was raised in Akron, Ohio. In Akron, we had this place called Quaker Square. It was this former train station that was owned by Quaker Oats. It was turned into a shopping center. There was a restaurant there where you could sit in old train cars. But, in the entrance to that restaurant was this big mechanical display of King Kong. At the push of a button, Kong would roar as planes flew past his head. Trains and cars would flee in terror. I loved pushing that big red button. I was amazed every time it came alive and I was transfixed to the large beast causing all this destruction. This was the seed that fueled my lifelong obsession with monsters.

I’d catch the odd MST3k of a Godzilla film, but it wasn’t until 1998 that I saw a giant monster film from start to finish. I remember loving it. I was just a kid with very little knowledge of Godzilla so I had not much of an idea about how unfaithful and disrespectful of the source material it was. But, it was good fun for a young child just being exposed to giant monsters, and I still contend to this day that while it’s not much of a Godzilla film per-say, it’s entertaining. I had limited access to actual Godzilla films growing up. Every once in a while I would check one out from the library if I found one. The first I remember seeing from start to finish was 1992’s Godzilla vs. Mothra. After seeing it I was inspired to write a short adaptation of it that I started but never finished, and it’s been long since lost.

Over time as I got older, I began collecting films of my favorite movie monsters: Kong and Godzilla. It’s easy to own all the Kongs. There are only 8 and the distribution rights are owned by big distributors like Universal, Warner Bros., and Paramount. Godzilla, on the other hand, was a tad more difficult, distribution split up between many companies. I began with some box sets and some individual DVD’s but many films in the series were out of print by the time I started collecting them. So, I took to eBay and second-hand shops. Some were more expensive than others. As luck would have it there have been some fairly recent Blu-ray releases of the harder to find films. With the release of Shin Godzilla in 2016, I was finally able to say that I have seen and owned every live-action Toho film to date. Everything on Blu-ray where available. It’s one of my favorite collections that I have. All 29 Toho Godzilla films, plus Rodan and Mothra and the Mothra trilogy, plus the 2 American films. Right next to my Kong collection.

I have watched all the Godzilla films many times, often marathoning them. There is not one that I do not like. It’s a good time to be a Gfan these days. I might not really like the latest American outing all that much, but I am deliriously excited for Godzilla vs. Kong. My two favorite monsters duking it out on the big screen in front of my eyes will be a transcendent experience. I’ll probably cry.

Right, I forgot shipping is separate from canon most of the time.

In that case, how about Mothra and Rodan? They've teamed up twice, and Mothra did ride on Rodan that one time. :P Plus, stingers in nature are usually modified ovipositors, so I'll just leave that there. :P

Godzilla vs. Kong isn't delayed; it's still coming in March.

Also, 3 times seems a bit too large considering that Pacific Rim had an approximate $190 million production budget and was still viable after a $411 million total box office take.

Now Godzilla: King of the Monsters has now hit about $367 million worldwide and is getting an extended theatre run in China. I get that it's not good, but it's not too bad right now; it could definitely have been worse, such as with Pacific Rim: Uprising's box office take.

It should be noted that films typically have to make 3x their production budget to be successful. This film will lose money, so Legendary absolutely is worried about it’s box office performance. It wouldn’t be delaying GvK if it was has happy with it.

Hey man, can't beat history!

And now there's legitimate fuel to add to the fire :P

I'm going to ship Mothra and King Ghidorah since they were allies once. Seems only fair.

Just throwing it out there, I kinda ship Godzilla and Mothra too. I see them having a love-hate thing going on. They fight, they kill each other, they come back, fight again, make up, etc. Ships don't have to be grounded by logic. They don't necessarily need to make sense. They don't even have to be canon. Everyone ships what and who they want. You don't have to agree with it but you have no control on what other people ship. That's all I'm going to say.

I don't see what's wrong with the idea of them having a romantic connection, I mean they very clearly aren't mindless beasts, Mike Dougherty himself confirmed that each of them have their own unique opinions on humans and the relationship between humans and monsters, for them to have that level of intelligent thought they must be pretty much on par with humans, Godzilla is even familiar with the concept of human weaponry when he recognizes Castle Bravos Maser turrets are armed and trained on him and in 2014 he spots missiles stray missiles about to hit a bus full of children and blocks them with his dorsal plates, the Titans are clearly very intelligent creatures so whether a romantic relationship between Godzilla and Mothra is weird to you or not, it doesn't seem beyond their mental capabilities 

just clarification: while watching the movie I just saw them as friends and animals with a symbiotic relationship, never even considered they could be anything more but based on the fact that Mike Dougherty seems to ship them romantically makes me think there is probably a good chance that they are meant to be seen as having a romantic connection in the monsterverse

Yeah, I think they made the right choice when choosing Mothra's design. These look cool, but they are not what I would consider Mothra.

Behemoth was definitely my favorite. We don't see a lot of elephant/mammoth like kaiju if at all. Hope to possibly see it again in GvK alongside Godzilla.

@TheGMan123

Exactly, I like seeing Godzilla and Mothra being friends over being enemies. 

I want more of the Behemoth.

There needs to be an open world Godzilla game.

It's kinda nice to see a full-on bond between Mothra and Godzilla this time around, truth be told. It's something that the Monsterverse can boast about having, especially since it was really nice to see and general and lead to some of the film's greatest moments.

@Gomi: Ninja Monster

Well I wouldn't say there was any romance going on between Godzilla and Mothra, LOL.

Megalon arose from the harbor, his pinchers snapping in anticipation. The ocean stag beetle kaiju roar-chirps as he sprints across Atlantis. Legend Goji emerges from his volcanic temple, he roars back at Megalon before charge out in a full on sprint. Megalon thrusts his pinchers at Legend Goji's leg, with one claw Legend Goji lifts up the diminutive kaiju, he bites off Megalon's pinchers before tossing him back into the ocean. Mallaku and his followers stare in shock and utter disbelief that Godzilla crippled their god Megalon. Godzilla turned his gaze towards Mallaku and his followers as they prepare to leave Atlantis, Legend Goji snorts at the fleeing self-exiles before returning to the great temple volcano. Megalon resurfaces only to join the small atlantean flotilla in exile. "Mallakus, what do we do now?" said one of his followers.

"We build a new city, I'll name it.... Seatopia" Mallakus replied, "One day, our descendants will make the so-called God-King pay" he exhales exhaustively.

I hope Toho brings back the days where these two are trying to kill each other and Mothra is just a goddess.

@Xenotaris

Okay, all good points, I'll give you those. Symbiosis doesn't happen in a day, so a preexisting bond between the species is only logical.

Which brings us back to the romantic implications of the ship. I will totally cede that Mothra and Godzilla could actually be friends as well as symbiotic partners, but anything further than that gets a nope from me.

humans are essentially animals too. also your judging Godzilla and Mothra from previous continuities perhaps in the monsterverse Godzillas and Mothras have a historic bond with each other. Also the displays of high intelligence in Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidorah seem to be on sapient levels.

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@SaibaShinrei

It's mostly the idea that Godzilla and Mothra, creatures with very high intelligence but still essentially animals, would understand and want a relationship beyond simple cooperation. Animals of different species forming close bonds is a relatively rare occurrence, and both kaiju have historically been pretty much loners. Also(more crucially I imagine), being a "couple" as usually implied by shippers means a romantic element, and that's just weird on every level. :P

definitely went to Methuselah Kaiju mountain, I was made a concept so ... unique? or rather said curious

Well, I had been wanting to belong to the fandub for a while, but recently I became a fan of this beautiful saga, and what made me definitely belong to the fandub was both the story and the characters (Mothra is my favorite Kaiju :3)

(by the way I speak Spanish xd)

Well, it took me a while to join fandub, but I needed something that would make me sure, and what made me realize that I wanted to be in this fandub, was the story, the characters (Mothra as I want it xD) 

(By the way I actually speak Spanish xD)

what's the problem with shipping Mothra and Godzilla? and if the director ships them and they are shown as having some sort of relationship in the movie doesn't that imply that his intent was to establish them as a couple in the movie thus making his ship cannon in his own Godzilla continuity? but yeah more to the point, why shouldn't they be a couple? I don't see the problem with it

I liked Behemoth and want to know more about Scylla but I wanted more screen time of Methuselah. He was in Boston at the end but they didn't show a close up like all the other monsters. I hope we get to see him battle in future movies.

Behemoth and Scylla were my favorites of the new Titans. I want to see more of them in future movies (and maybe graphic novels too).

 The first one is to fly like.

 the second one is to Praying Mantis like.

And the third one is to wasp like.

But like how they did it in King of the Monsters. Probably my favorite Mothra version.

Holy Crap. I expected the place to be huge but that is frickin insane!!

These are pretty cool looking

It seems KOTM was able to retain the majority of 2014's audience in Japan. If it were able to do the same in the US the monsterverse would be in pretty good shape.

World of KJ has translated Kogyotsushin's actuals for the 4th weekend. Godzilla: King of the Monsters fell to #5, which is slightly surprising, given the early estimates had it at #6. It pulled $1.1M USD this weekend, bringing its total to $22.9 million USD.

It's still on track for $30+ million, though $40 million is now a pipe dream. Attendance is currently at 1.69 million, which is just 100,000 tickets under Godzilla x MechaGodzilla's final take.

I'm really digging all of these. The first one has a pretty classical-looking head, but the beetle armor is a neat idea. The wasp ones are obviously cool, and I like that they tried the mantid leg arrangement on the blue one, having Mothra rear up would have been interesting.

Thanks.

Just look at how Disney released all their big movies since Captain Marvel. Perfectly timed and placed to crush the competition. The tentpole releases like Aladdin and Toy Story are the movies that people plan to see. Most of the stuff in the middle gets skipped as a "I'll catch it on blu ray" title.

I like the final design that was featured in the movie but those yellow Mothra designs are pretty cool looing

I get the feeling Mothra passes her consciousness to her "daughter" and judging how she reacts to her surroundings, Mothra is quite intelligent.

Oho, do I spy a Godzilla/Rodan team up in that first image?