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Shinji Higuchi - Special Effects Director of Gamera 2: The Advent of Legion and Shin Godzilla.

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I feel like a draw would be too obvious and ruin the purpose of the movie, the fight between two massive monsters. One has to win. No one should die but I still want one to lose. It should be Kong. He does not need or want to be the king of the monsters. He wants his island and that’s all. 

hawk4117,
Narratively it makes sense because Godzilla was the larger threat in the movie. Kong was more of an anti-hero. Also consider that Kong had nearly 30 years of popularity at the time and Honda and Tsuburaya were likely paying respect to a creature that helped inspired them to create Godzilla in 1954. Whether we like it or not, Kong was the winner--According to Toho back during the film's international release anyway.

Xenotaris,
He escaped the raft being tugged by the boat and swam to Japan early in the film. After he was drugged in Tokyo, Kong was airlifted to fight Godzilla at Mt. Fuji.

Airlifted, I though Kong was brought to Japan by a huge ass boat?

Kong was airlifted to Godzilla with the intent of stopping Godzilla from remaining on land as a destructive force. When the movie ended Godzilla was gone and therefore Kong's human enforced objective was complete. That implies victory imo.

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It just doesn’t make any sense how anyone could see Kong a winner.  Even the writers of that article.   I mean take another peek at the ending scene when the two were fighting hard, and that mansion was between them.  I think they both did more damage on that house than each other.  Then they got tangled up in a monster clinch and both rolled down the mountainside.  So what if Kong surfaced and swam away.  How could that scene claim Kong the victor?  It wasn’t like Kong was getting massive hard licks in of the final round as in Cinderella man where James Braddock was punching Maxx Baer all over the place. Yes Braddock was the underdog, as Kong would be, but come on…I could humbly say that if it went to a decision, it would be a draw. Anyways, I would just love to see a great fight and I hope the writers and producers can get the storyline right.   

Another angle I was thinking would be beneficial would be a historical angle.

I was told recently that Godzilla: King of the Monsters may have suffered somewhat from the "Justice League effect", whereby it introduced a lot of new characters all at once.

While we don't have to worry about that, technically speaking, with Godzilla and Kong, it may be a good idea to have some parts of the marketing focused around bringing viewers up to speed on the events and characters leading up to the movie. Character pieces that delve into the creation and personalities behind Godzilla and Kong may be beneficial to getting watchers more invested in them beyond the spectacle.

Perhaps have the actors and production staff come on to talk about Godzilla and Kong as characters in interviews that are made widely available on the internet.

Any other ideas you guys have?

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That would be perfect

Well Mothra's 2019 larval design strayed pretty far from the classical facial structure, so I'd imagine to sell the illusion that they are both Mothra Battra's larval design would keep the differences to a minimum, at least at first. Maybe they could grow over time as he matures, as most insects aren't particularly sexually dimorphic in the early stages. That way the diverging character traits get an extra visual layer to track his metamorphosis into Mothra's opposite.

UPDATE 7/01/19:
It came as a surprise to everyone that Godzilla: King of the Monsters held on to the #5 spot in its 5th weekend. The movie brought in $713,000 USD for the weekend--Which is higher than the predicted $600,000 estimation.

King of the Monsters' total now comes to $24.3M USD. Its attendance is now at 1.80 million--About 200,000 away from Godzilla 2000's final take from 1999.

Should it hold in a similar fashion to the way it did this week, it should be able to hit $30 million by August.

5th Weekend Comparison:
Godzilla 2014: $27.9M - Attendance: 1.99M
Shin Godzilla: $51.7M - Attendance: 3.63M
Godzilla: King of the Monsters: $24.3M - Attendance: 1.80M

Yeah, I was just commenting to what Gomi: Ninja Monster said

Oh of course. Like I said he has horns and his traditional strips to help differentiate him from mothra before his transformation.

well Battra being male should retain in his larval form his horn and tusks

And I now realize this is pretty much the original idea, just pushed forward in the timeline. Whoops.

I feel this idea has come up somewhere before, but what if the mystery egg from the credits has twin larvae in it, and one of them eventually turns out to be Battra? Like they start out almost identical aside from some defining color patterns(think the Raptors in JW), but one keeps being Mothra-like and the other starts getting increasingly aggressive and confrontational until they finally cocoon and pop out very different-looking. Then we find out the mean one is the once-in-a-millenium male of the species called Battra, whose purpose is to stake out and reinforce the lineage's territory by wiping out any potential competitors or threats, and the humans just happen to be in the crosshairs. That could be a neat way to let Mothra have twins in the MonsterVerse, and give Battra a useful, if misguided motivation.

I like this idea.

That's the idea. that mothra and battra are brother and sister

Perhaps Battra is the male member of Mothra's species in the Monsterverse?

I'm all for Zilla returning

My idea for battra laying his egg is that he effectively gives up all his energy in order to create an egg. So while the new battra is created old one dies. But I like your idea too

Zilla, the 1998 one. I really love his design and abilities. He could be really cool like he was in the Rulers of earth comic. People hate him but he has already been determined to be a different monster from Godzilla. I just want to see him get some love on the big screen again. Hopefully it rids the hate on him.

That’s a good idea, but one major problem with it. Battra is male so he can’t leave any offspring like Mothra. Why not have Battra be a member of another species that evolved around the same time as Mothra’s. There are many species on earth that evolved separately but by chance the same way as another. 

Battra and Mothra could have had a symbiotic relationship that later changed into a competitive one after some huge environmental change. Or they could have always been in competition.  I do like the idea that the two species could possibly, and have rarely, mate and produce offspring. Then we could have Mothra Leo be the cross with all the best genes of both. This would be an extremely rare occurrence though considering that mothra’s species are asexual.

I do think Battra’s species should have male and female members because that would mean at least one has an instinct and knowledge of mating.

A Battra egg should have sensed Mothra’s awakening and hatched in response to it. Then we let them fight.

Intro of biollante

Wow!

hawk4117,
From Toho's own international flyer, used before the film was released in American theaters:

well godzilla won twice in his respective monsterverse movies but we will see what happens in 2020. Also on the whole "alternate endings" of King Kong vs Godzilla (1962) yeah King Kong won in both versions. Just in the Japanese one: Godzilla could be heard roaring after Kong left Japan.

The rumored 1962 Japanese version with Godzilla surfacing at the end does not exist.

As for the winner in 2020 it will be Kong. It sucks imo because we already saw Kong win once and it feels really cheap seeing him win again.

Neither will die, but I think Godzilla will retreat and Kong will stand victorious on Skull Island.

Anime Ghidorah can distort space, which none of the other versions of the character can do, so...

Thanks for all the positive feedback!

Godzilla, Kong, Rodan, Mothra (Larva at least), Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah, Jinshin-Mushi (Muto 3), Destoroyah (with the introduction of the Oxygen Destroyer it is possible), Anguirus, Jet Jaguar, MechaGodzilla. 

 I just want lots of Rodan, Methuselah, and equal amounts of human and monster action. Which Micheal Dougherty executed perfectly.

I still want more Mothra but perhaps we may be getting a mecha Ghidorah too. Also I really like the new Behemoth but being on an island, maybe a Kamoeba would be more appropriate. 

So, to continue the trend of continuing the boxing rivalry angle, I was thinking that perhaps instead of having regular trailers, you could have Kong focused and Godzilla focused trailers.

We could have fewer overall TV spots and trailers, but they could be released in pairs, one for Godzilla and one for Kong. Once again, this would hopefully drive home the point of this being a major film rivalry and attract audiences to root for one Titan or the other.

Other things you could do this for include opposing posters, signs, and maybe even actors that are always paired up against each other. I don't think a rivalry like this has ever really been done in Hollywood before, and I think it'd be a good angle to approach the marketing from.

I was a little kid, about 4 y.o at home often because I was sick much of the time. They showed a bunch of old monster movies in the afternoons and Godzilla was on a lot. I have to admit that Mothra and Son of Godzilla were my favourites until I got a bit older (Godzilla kind of scared me at that age). But when I did, I began to appreciate and eventually fell in monster-love with Godzilla. 40 something years later and he's still my favourite movie star.

I love those ideas especially the boxing match. These are the two most iconic monsters in the monsterverse so they should be given an "epic battle" type promotion. Ideally a fast food chain would also do some promoting (maybe kids toys too?) and the movie concessions would do what they did in China (I think it was China!) with Godzilla KotM and have the soda/popcorn containers promoting the film too. If this is the last one of the series, go out with a bang! 

Godzilla Junior maybe (maybe he's what's in the egg)? Gorosaurus?

Thank you very much!

Good thinking.

Different merchandise for the 2 Titans. Heck, if they could manage it, I think having "opposing aisles" would be cool. One side of merchandise would be all Godzilla, while the other would be all Kong.

Really play up how this is the biggest rivalry in modern film.