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I dont want alien species in the monsterverse using kaiju as pawns.
I could say the afterthought about godzilla 2014, but I dont because both use the cut away very well. I enjoyed the waiting and godzilla is probably talked about more in SP than 2014. The two first forms of shin godzilla dont feel very godzilla like to me. Most of the physics conversations as of ep. 5 and onward talk about godzilla and the catastrophe I beleive.
Godzilla was a creature from a higher demension, and has most of the abilities of the other kaiju such as rewriting his dna and seeing into the future. The evolution didn't need to be natural. Its a blend of incomplete and complete metamorphasis making the organism seem more complex.
Aquatilis barely reminds me of Titanosaurus, Coloration isnt enough to justify that for me.
I do agree that the evolution didnt work as well as in shin, and I believe it was included for two reasons. One Toho might have mandated it because it gives opportunity for Bandai to make more toys. And Two, it was to get around Toho saying that Godzilla should appear as soon as possible.
UPDATE 07/22/2021:
The attendance for Godzilla vs. Kong has been updated and is a little higher than I previously reported. As of its third weekend it stands at 916,900.
It's not a lot more than expected, but worth updating for the sake of accuracy. (Bunkatsushin)
HinikunaGoji,
Agreed. Part of the rewatch factor is understanding it better with each viewing. The series is simply chalk full of ideas, nuance, references, cultural and religious ideas steaming from Japanese to Buddhism--It doesn't cease to be fascinating even upon rewatch.
My latest rewatch has revealed an implication I didn't catch before. The evolved Jet Jaguar claims he came into being via the code Yun wrote which was triggered by Ashihara--Implying Ashihara may be an older Yun.
Season 2 can come soon enough.
Ultima had a cool design and there were some cool moments and concepts, but a lot of these moments and ideas were pretty much just copied from Shin Godzilla, and to be honest, I felt that they worked better in Shin than they did in Singular Point.
I think Godzilla's metamorphosis worked better in Shin because the forms felt like a realistic transformation, starting as an aquatic creature that grows limbs, looses its gills and begins to adapt to a terrestrial lifestyle, growing and changing its form to defend itself from threats. It reminded me of the metamorphosis of a tadpole becoming a frog. Singular Point's metamorphosis didn't make much sense, it starts out as a more aquatic Titanosaurus, randomly becomes Varan, cocoons itself and becomes a weird Godzilla/Python/Dinosaur thing with living blood tentacles, and then just randomly becomes Godzilla. Nothing about that transformation felt organic.
I liked that Godzilla Ultima felt apocalyptic, the problem was that his inclusion kind of felt like an afterthought. The plot seemed more focused on its physics lectures and other concepts, to the point where Godzilla felt like he was pushed to the background and at times it felt like the series forgot about him.
Directors say Godzilla wins, so de facto Godzilla King of Monsters is King of Kong
https://movieweb.com/godzilla-vs-kong-definitive-winner/
I disagree. I love shin, but Ultima completely took me by surprise. I wasn't very stoked about the idea of another evolving godzilla and loved the execution and showa monster esque designs. Im not mad about seeing these kaiju on their own because in and of themselves they are very bland, (and varan is one of my favorite kaiju ever.) The show looked so showa-ey and I love it. Godzilla himself seems more intelligent, then the more animalistic godzillas we've been getting, (Shin, MOnsterverse, HEsei, Kyriugoji). THis godzilla also felt very apocalyptic and godlike to me, which is what ive always really wanted with a godzilla.
I love singular point, Ive rewatched it about four times so far. Each time ive realized more and more about the plot. And it gets better. PEople ive watched it with also help me realize new things. its really amazing. But i still hate the english dub
I agree completely. I love the idea of Ghidorah as an eldritch unknowable entity, Cosmic horror works well in the kaiju genre
After seeing Singular Point, my final choice is Shin Godzilla, no contest. So far it's the only entry in the Reiwa series that I fully enjoyed. Plus, I found that version to be the most interesting.
Sawada has really knocked it out of the park.
TitanMaster,
I find the anime King Ghidorah on of the most terrifying and hopeless incarnations ever. He was quite literally unbeatable with a host driving his animosity.
I was looking for a specific song I know the march theme gets a lot of attention but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8h3PJ3Ypk&list=PLY9tfiQmWC_MIVNE19OVKVbAw5RNJtwMB&index=30 at 1;51 is my favorite theme ever
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13886020/1/Pacific-Rim-Kaiju-of-Steel
Godzilla x Pacific Rim: The Black crossover. Mostly uses monsterverse and previous eras though there are some cameos from Singular Point characters
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13886020/1/Pacific-Rim-Kaiju-of-Steel
This is a Godzilla x Pacific Rim crossover I am making rn. It takes from the Pacific Rim anime as well as both the Monsterverse and some cameos from Singular Point characters.
The only kaiju I really hate is Hedorah. His eyes will haunt my nightmares to this day
I mean, look at this. It's disgusting
Geez, where do I start...? The airport entrance in 2014 was intense, but If I had to pick a defining scene, it would be when he decimates Ghidorah in KOTM and then when the other monsters arrive and actually BOW TO HIM. What other Godzilla has had other kaiju bow and show their allegiance to him.
LONG LIVE THE KING!
Ultima, no question. Singular Point was most loyal to the OGs in my opinion. Shin is just the most disgusting thing I have ever seen and while I accepted the Earth Godzilla design, that particular trilogy kinda sucked. Like seriously, WHY is mechagodzilla a city and WHY, just WHY is Ghidorah so underwhelming. He's supposed to be the titan usurper, the One Who is Many, the Devil With Three Heads! All we got was three really long necks and the only kaiju battle that bored me.
Now, going to Godzilla Ultima, I was admittedly a little wary of the whole evolution thing after Shin, but once I saw Ultima, my doubts were gone. I just sat there in awe as he arose, walking through the city to the booming melody of his original theme, which now has VOCALS (I actually got goosebumps). His thighs were a bit thicc, but I'll let it slide. out of the three Reiwa versions, Ultima is by far the most loyal to the eras before, and that's what really helped me make my choice.
Is there any competition? Gigan is way cooler. Final Wars Gigan is the absolute best, my second favorite kaiju, second only to the big G himself.
I agree. the only thing I want to argue is Kong ruling Hollow Earth. As far as we know, he's the only Alpha Titan down there, so I see no issue in him being king down there, as long as Godzilla stays King of the Monsters. Like seriously, how did ANYONE think Kong could win after seeing Godzilla go beast mode on him in Hong Kong. I see Godzilla drill a hole into Hollow Earth and I already knew he was going to come out on top.
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
I started with the Death Battle of Godzilla vs Gamera on Youtube, but that was only a small taste of what I realized I was getting myself into. It wasn't until I watched my first ever Godzilla movie, Godzilla 2014, that I really saw just how intimidating and powerful he really was. Seeing him an action as well as watching many of the other original kaiju in action really solidified my interest. LONG LIVE THE KING!
The Singular Point soundtrack dropped today and it is gorgeous.
not that ad...
I mean its not the worst but still
Personally, as long as Godzilla looks like Godzilla, I'm cool. Also, here's (Godzilla?) with a mohawk I guess...
UPDATE 07/21/2021 B:
Actuals confirm that Godzilla vs. Kong's current total is at 1.41 Billion Yen ($12.9 Million). The film fell -55.22% from last weekend with a third weekend haul of $1.03 Million.
UPDATE 07/20/2021:
Godzilla vs. Kong dropped to #3 in its third weekend, via Kogyotsushin.
Pixiin reports the film's total is now at an estimated 1.41 Billion Yen ($12.9 Million)--$2.4 Million up from last weekend. This puts attendance at an estimated, 902,491, which is still just under Terror of MechaGodzilla for the series attendance.
Here's how Godzilla vs. Kong stacks up to the last three live action Godzilla films third weekend totals.
3rd Weekend Total Comparison:
Godzilla 2014: $20.5M.
Shin Godzilla: $32.6M.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters: $20.5
Godzilla vs. Kong: $12.9
I believe that was the latest Monarch Director played by Lance Riddick, not Brooks. Riddick originally had a bigger part in the film, but his scenes were cut.
That wasn't Houston Brooks. You can find him in the prequel comic Kingdom Kong though.
like the scene after kong wakes up where He and the other dr talk
dilophosaurus has a flat broad head if you remove its crests it looks like a ceolophysis
Kind of, but Im thinking of Dilophosaurus, Cryolophosaurus, Monolophosaurus, and others, which all dont have flat heads
maybe not sauropods but theropods tend to have flat broad heads
Im pretty sure Dr. Brooks survived kotm because I see him in gvk
Japanese creatures tend to be more insectoid or mammailian in mythology. But dinosaurs didnt have particularly flat heads.
Well its because reptiles tend to have flat heads while mammals tend to have round heads.
Godzilla is supposed to be a reptile which is why americans make him more reptilian however the Japanese design him to be more mammalian? who knows why?
No but only Godzilla related is king of all monsters movie and Aftershocks and in that comic he said he was going to skull island
Thats not at all the point of this thread. iT was talking about a design choice, whether or not you like the design is your opinion.
I want to counter your arguament in saying MOnsterverse Goji cant be called
the king of the monsters because it didnt fight classic toho monsters is flawed. He fought Ghidorah, and hesei fought a new kaiju in its first two monster movie.
Also random note, the flat head seems to be a very american design choice.
isnt Dr brooks in GvK?
Other than that info I cant contribute much
So you're trying to dictate what a "True Godzilla" design is based only on their head shapes...
are you serious...?
