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@Captain Cold
The Oxygen Destroyer has always been made by Humans in the Godzilla multiverse
Mechagodzilla in the Showa and Anime Trilogy series were the only alien origin Mechagodzilla.
Mechagodzilla in the Heisei series was made from the remains future human's mechaghidorah, which was reconstructed by present day humans into mechagodzilla
Mechagodzilla in the Millennium series was made by humans built on the remains of a dead godzilla.
So why do you have a problem with Mechagodzilla being made by humans in the MonsterVerse series?
I mean, they pretty much changed up the origins of mechagodzilla and the oxygen destroyer as they are made by humans. I don't see why they would use aliens, and it would be a plot hole tbh
I hope so but the only stories they could really adapt are space godzilla or maybe a rodan/gigan spinoff. Destroyah/Biolate isn't mainstream enough to adapt, and while yes fans like me will know who they are outsiders won't. Almost everyone knows who godzilla is even if you didn't see the movies, same with kong because they are pretty much cultural icons, Another example is that Everyone knows who superman is but they probably don't know who metallo is for example
I am honestly very happy about this. But the thing is that they have pretty much did everything, I would love to see the monsterverse continue but i really don't know where. They could do a zilla or a gigan spinoff but that's about it. Maybe the space godzilla story? I think a soft reboot or an "alternate universe" with the same actors and characters would be great
Also no mention of a godzilla movie, i wonder if toho will give them the rights.
“Given the success of Godzilla vs. Kong, I’m kind of hoping in whatever the next phase Legendary decides to do that we would see that. I think it’d be pretty cool. I think it is possible. It would be very ambitious. I think ambitious in that Mad Max: Fury Road way. I think it’s totally possible to do that with the absolute minimum amount of human characters and really characterize the creatures.”
This comment really worries me. I dont like this idea at all. I get that using the monsters as main characters is not tried before, but honestly it seems lazy and a lack of effort to try and write an engaging story with good humans. Also humanizing them would take away what makes them interesting to me.
UPDATE 08/06/2021:
Actuals, put Godzilla vs. Kong's 5th weekend at 1.75 Billion Yen. ($15.92 Million). It made $375,706 for the weekend.
Estimated attendance still sits around 1.13 million. (Box Office Theory)
g-man fan,
There is no such thing as Godzilla: Desolation. That was a fan invented title that's been plastered all over fan posters.
The next Monsterverse movie has been suggested to be Kong-centric.
Additionally, here is the original source for SasquaDash's post:
Godzilla vs Kong Writer Teases Future MonsterVerse Movies - Screen Rant
I knew it wasn't over but what about Godzilla desolation
Gojira Forces (Lim Chen Xi),
Neither of those are happening or planned.
UPDATE 08/02/2021:
Godzilla vs. Kong fell from #5 last weekend to #9 in its 5th weekend. (Cinema Today) The current estimated total is 1.74 Billion Yen ($15.9 Million). (Pixiin)
This places estimated attendance at 1.13 million. Here's how it stacks up with the 5th weeks for the prior three live action Godzilla movies.
5th Weekend Comparison:
Godzilla 2014: $27.9M - Attendance: 1.99M
Shin Godzilla: $51.7M - Attendance: 3.63M
Godzilla: King of the Monsters: $24.3M - Attendance: 1.80M
Godzilla vs. Kong: $15.9M - Attendance: 1.13M
HinikunaGoji,
Indeed. Makes more sense they'd open a Hollow Earth night club. Two shows on Tuesday.
I might fail at this, because I know very little gamera and ultra man kaiju. I need been to watch some of the ultra man series
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I don't think that we'd get a GvK 2, in general. It makes very little sense to make one. Godzilla and Kong left on good terms.
Huh well that's kinda lame. I heard people say that's a good little art piece too. Oh well thanks for letting me know
I mean, i like the basic concept but them becoming one sounds a bit too far fetched
its not actually Godzilla. just an ad that is a parody, but still
This post is really old. You can't access the photo probably because the website has reformatted how images are displayed. This also would explain the older text being so small.
Which is suck, cuz I can probably beast through the challenge lol
I can't get the picture to show up. RIP
i think it will be good spicemoneylogin.in myfiosgateway.one
Very decent.
UPDATE 07/28/2021:
Actuals have come in and are higher than expected. Godzilla vs. Kong made $673,840 over the 4th weekend bringing the total to 1.63 Billion Yen ($14.92 Million). As a result, the estimated attendance goes up to 1.06 million--Still a far cry from Godzilla: Tokyo SOS, but better than Pacific Rim. (Via Bunkatsushin)
UPDATE 07/26/2021:
Cinema Today reports that Godzilla vs. Kong dropped from #3 to #5 in its 4th weekend, which looks like a slightly better hold than prior weekends. Godzilla vs. Kong's total is now at 1.6 Billion Yen ($14.51 Million).
As of this date it is currently is the 10th highest grossing film in Japan for 2021 and the #1 highest grossing Hollywood film for the year. Attendance is estimated at 1.03 Million, topping Godzilla: Final Wars, but almost 200K from Godzilla: Tokyo SOS.
More details as they come.
SasquaDash,
The difference is nothing about the TriStar follow up transpired outside of The Animated Series. I'd also submit that most people actually think the TriStar design is worthwhile, just not as Godzilla--Although it was received much better in The Animated Series since he acted more like the character.
The Singular Point forms have faced division, but those in its corner typically praise them for being homages to prior kaiju. I think since it evolved into something more recognizable as Godzilla, it gets the pass. Had they not it would have received a much different reaction from fans.
Meanwhile, the TriStar design did not actively mutate--That was not part of its biology nor story. Yet even still, it was accepted better when The Animated Series premiered. I think the more pertinent question you should ask is had the TriStar film actually been good, yet retained the same design, would it have been better accepted? And given the reaction to The Animated Series, it seems very probable.
THat scene is unnescary as well. Funny that i didnt even remember it. It does hint atomic breath kind of.
Personally, I felt that the most unnecessary part of Singular Point was that giant "Shadow Rodan" that randomly shows up. All that happens in that scene is that it flies into the city and Godzilla shoots it out of the air. They never explain where it came from, what its connection to the other Rodans, or why it was trying to fight Godzilla. Heck, they don't even show it or mention it again afterwards. The scene pretty much had no purpose, you could completely cut that scene out and nothing would change. The whole scene kind of reminded me of the giant condor fight scene in Godzilla vs the Sea Monster.
I know that it's not an actual prediction, I just thought that it was a funny coincidence.
Interestingly, there was an episode of Rugrats called "Run Away Reptar!" that was a parody of the 1974 Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla, featuring Reptar fighting a robotic clone that was disguised as him and a pterosaur named Dactar who was a parody of Rodan.
it also might not predicting, it could be information sent to the past not revcieved as information to tell wingard to make doug
this is a bit of a stretch…
Is it just me or does anyone else question why its called doug?
I think fred is better, idk
But was the trigger intentional? I dunno maybe season 2 will answer that
I will have to say, I dont agree with saying 1998 is a prelude to the series zilla. I would agree with you if they were the same individual. With your gradual biological evolution idea for each trilogy, should the first individual be godzilla, and the later ones be called something else? Mutation isnt quite the right word for your argument.
1998 is a terrible movie, even without zilla. From fans who parise the movie, the only praise from them ive ever heard i the design. The movie doesnt seem to know whether its uper goofy or serious and lead too many tonal problems.
One other about changing godzilla and being different is its execution. Shin Godzilla and singular point do this well. Shin uses the evolution to reinforce themes, and the form in SP reinforce the scientific concepts and increase tension. Both help the narrative. 98 just want to be realistic, (goofiness detracts this) and nothing else. THis does not benefit the story.
Most of the best godzilla movies arent dependent on godzilla. 1954 could have easily replaced goji with several oncoming nukes. Sp could have replaced godzilla with just the end of thw world because of archetype. This peoblem exit in one of my favorite goji movie KOTM. I love this movie but I feel this is its real problem, the human story is entirely dependent on the kaiju story. THe story for humans doughterty came up with just replaced the kaiju with natural disasters and fails to explain emmas justification for setting them off.
The mot unnessecary part of SP i the kumongas it doent move along the story, just is action.
1998 and Aquatilis are both meant to be a form of Godzilla. Even with the argument that it was just the prelude to Godzilla, the designs for Aquatilis and Amphibia look nothing like Godzilla and instead look like knock-off versions of more recognizable kaiju (I could also say that about the other kaiju in Singular Point as well).
With that logic you could argue that 1998 was the prelude to the animated series version, which acted more like the traditional Godzilla, was stronger and had atomic breath. In fact, according to Tristar and the early script for the unmade sequel, 1998 was supposed to be the first in a trilogy, in which their Godzilla was going to continue to mutate/evolve and become more like the classic Godzilla, so with that logic, Godzilla 1998's design is no different than Singular Point's early forms (hell, Terrestris actually has some similarities to 1998's design, with its more theropod-like stance and the fins on its back curving forward).
They're both radically different interpretations of Godzilla, except that the 1998 design gets bashed for being different, while the early forms in Singular Point gets praised for being different. The only major difference is that one is made by an American studio and the other is made by a Japanese studio. It honestly makes me question:
If 1998's plot was similar to Singular Point would it still be hated for being different?
And if 1998 had been made by Toho (no other changes) would it be praised for being different and ambitious?
I never got that impression he was confused, but the Singular Point Official Guide released earlier this month confirms that Ashihara, and I quote, "triggered the protocol that Yun wrote."
"I find it funny that fans gave 1998 crap for not looking like the classic Godzilla, yet this is somehow fine."
Given 1998 was the final design and Aquatilis was merely a prelude to something more traditional than 1998, I don't think the same logic applies.
I like the 98' design, And gmk goji was also supposed to have that stance. Aybe it gets away with not looking much like goji because its a different form.
I dont like titano much but aquatilis is my favorite form besides ultima. Ive sculpted it twice because of this.
The coloration of Aquatilis wasn't the only similarity that it had with Titanosaurus. The head shape, eyes, fins on head and tail, and antennae are identical to Titanosaurus.
Aquatilis pretty much looked like a cross between Titanosaurus and a Mosasaur. It has an interesting design but as a form of Godzilla it doesn't work. Aside from the fins on it's back, it looks nothing like Godzilla! I find it funny that fans gave 1998 crap for not looking like the classic Godzilla, yet this is somehow fine.
I dont think Ashihara is Yun because when Pero 2 (I refuse to say pelops 2) goes into the past with the project he sees into the past shiva with ashihara, Ashihara seems confused what the song is, but JJ tells Yun what it is at the end.
what about this article?
https://screenrant.com/godzilla-vs-king-kong-name-official-monsterverse/
