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UPDATE 07/26/2021:
Cinema Today reports that Godzilla vs. Kong dropped from #3 to #5 in its 4th weekend, which looks like a slightly better hold than prior weekends. Godzilla vs. Kong's total is now at 1.6 Billion Yen ($14.51 Million).
As of this date it is currently is the 10th highest grossing film in Japan for 2021 and the #1 highest grossing Hollywood film for the year. Attendance is estimated at 1.03 Million, topping Godzilla: Final Wars, but almost 200K from Godzilla: Tokyo SOS.
More details as they come.
SasquaDash,
The difference is nothing about the TriStar follow up transpired outside of The Animated Series. I'd also submit that most people actually think the TriStar design is worthwhile, just not as Godzilla--Although it was received much better in The Animated Series since he acted more like the character.
The Singular Point forms have faced division, but those in its corner typically praise them for being homages to prior kaiju. I think since it evolved into something more recognizable as Godzilla, it gets the pass. Had they not it would have received a much different reaction from fans.
Meanwhile, the TriStar design did not actively mutate--That was not part of its biology nor story. Yet even still, it was accepted better when The Animated Series premiered. I think the more pertinent question you should ask is had the TriStar film actually been good, yet retained the same design, would it have been better accepted? And given the reaction to The Animated Series, it seems very probable.
THat scene is unnescary as well. Funny that i didnt even remember it. It does hint atomic breath kind of.
Personally, I felt that the most unnecessary part of Singular Point was that giant "Shadow Rodan" that randomly shows up. All that happens in that scene is that it flies into the city and Godzilla shoots it out of the air. They never explain where it came from, what its connection to the other Rodans, or why it was trying to fight Godzilla. Heck, they don't even show it or mention it again afterwards. The scene pretty much had no purpose, you could completely cut that scene out and nothing would change. The whole scene kind of reminded me of the giant condor fight scene in Godzilla vs the Sea Monster.
I know that it's not an actual prediction, I just thought that it was a funny coincidence.
Interestingly, there was an episode of Rugrats called "Run Away Reptar!" that was a parody of the 1974 Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla, featuring Reptar fighting a robotic clone that was disguised as him and a pterosaur named Dactar who was a parody of Rodan.
it also might not predicting, it could be information sent to the past not revcieved as information to tell wingard to make doug
this is a bit of a stretch…
Is it just me or does anyone else question why its called doug?
I think fred is better, idk
But was the trigger intentional? I dunno maybe season 2 will answer that
I will have to say, I dont agree with saying 1998 is a prelude to the series zilla. I would agree with you if they were the same individual. With your gradual biological evolution idea for each trilogy, should the first individual be godzilla, and the later ones be called something else? Mutation isnt quite the right word for your argument.
1998 is a terrible movie, even without zilla. From fans who parise the movie, the only praise from them ive ever heard i the design. The movie doesnt seem to know whether its uper goofy or serious and lead too many tonal problems.
One other about changing godzilla and being different is its execution. Shin Godzilla and singular point do this well. Shin uses the evolution to reinforce themes, and the form in SP reinforce the scientific concepts and increase tension. Both help the narrative. 98 just want to be realistic, (goofiness detracts this) and nothing else. THis does not benefit the story.
Most of the best godzilla movies arent dependent on godzilla. 1954 could have easily replaced goji with several oncoming nukes. Sp could have replaced godzilla with just the end of thw world because of archetype. This peoblem exit in one of my favorite goji movie KOTM. I love this movie but I feel this is its real problem, the human story is entirely dependent on the kaiju story. THe story for humans doughterty came up with just replaced the kaiju with natural disasters and fails to explain emmas justification for setting them off.
The mot unnessecary part of SP i the kumongas it doent move along the story, just is action.
1998 and Aquatilis are both meant to be a form of Godzilla. Even with the argument that it was just the prelude to Godzilla, the designs for Aquatilis and Amphibia look nothing like Godzilla and instead look like knock-off versions of more recognizable kaiju (I could also say that about the other kaiju in Singular Point as well).
With that logic you could argue that 1998 was the prelude to the animated series version, which acted more like the traditional Godzilla, was stronger and had atomic breath. In fact, according to Tristar and the early script for the unmade sequel, 1998 was supposed to be the first in a trilogy, in which their Godzilla was going to continue to mutate/evolve and become more like the classic Godzilla, so with that logic, Godzilla 1998's design is no different than Singular Point's early forms (hell, Terrestris actually has some similarities to 1998's design, with its more theropod-like stance and the fins on its back curving forward).
They're both radically different interpretations of Godzilla, except that the 1998 design gets bashed for being different, while the early forms in Singular Point gets praised for being different. The only major difference is that one is made by an American studio and the other is made by a Japanese studio. It honestly makes me question:
If 1998's plot was similar to Singular Point would it still be hated for being different?
And if 1998 had been made by Toho (no other changes) would it be praised for being different and ambitious?
I never got that impression he was confused, but the Singular Point Official Guide released earlier this month confirms that Ashihara, and I quote, "triggered the protocol that Yun wrote."
"I find it funny that fans gave 1998 crap for not looking like the classic Godzilla, yet this is somehow fine."
Given 1998 was the final design and Aquatilis was merely a prelude to something more traditional than 1998, I don't think the same logic applies.
I like the 98' design, And gmk goji was also supposed to have that stance. Aybe it gets away with not looking much like goji because its a different form.
I dont like titano much but aquatilis is my favorite form besides ultima. Ive sculpted it twice because of this.
The coloration of Aquatilis wasn't the only similarity that it had with Titanosaurus. The head shape, eyes, fins on head and tail, and antennae are identical to Titanosaurus.
Aquatilis pretty much looked like a cross between Titanosaurus and a Mosasaur. It has an interesting design but as a form of Godzilla it doesn't work. Aside from the fins on it's back, it looks nothing like Godzilla! I find it funny that fans gave 1998 crap for not looking like the classic Godzilla, yet this is somehow fine.
I dont think Ashihara is Yun because when Pero 2 (I refuse to say pelops 2) goes into the past with the project he sees into the past shiva with ashihara, Ashihara seems confused what the song is, but JJ tells Yun what it is at the end.
what about this article?
https://screenrant.com/godzilla-vs-king-kong-name-official-monsterverse/
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I dont want alien species in the monsterverse using kaiju as pawns.
I could say the afterthought about godzilla 2014, but I dont because both use the cut away very well. I enjoyed the waiting and godzilla is probably talked about more in SP than 2014. The two first forms of shin godzilla dont feel very godzilla like to me. Most of the physics conversations as of ep. 5 and onward talk about godzilla and the catastrophe I beleive.
Godzilla was a creature from a higher demension, and has most of the abilities of the other kaiju such as rewriting his dna and seeing into the future. The evolution didn't need to be natural. Its a blend of incomplete and complete metamorphasis making the organism seem more complex.
Aquatilis barely reminds me of Titanosaurus, Coloration isnt enough to justify that for me.
I do agree that the evolution didnt work as well as in shin, and I believe it was included for two reasons. One Toho might have mandated it because it gives opportunity for Bandai to make more toys. And Two, it was to get around Toho saying that Godzilla should appear as soon as possible.
UPDATE 07/22/2021:
The attendance for Godzilla vs. Kong has been updated and is a little higher than I previously reported. As of its third weekend it stands at 916,900.
It's not a lot more than expected, but worth updating for the sake of accuracy. (Bunkatsushin)
HinikunaGoji,
Agreed. Part of the rewatch factor is understanding it better with each viewing. The series is simply chalk full of ideas, nuance, references, cultural and religious ideas steaming from Japanese to Buddhism--It doesn't cease to be fascinating even upon rewatch.
My latest rewatch has revealed an implication I didn't catch before. The evolved Jet Jaguar claims he came into being via the code Yun wrote which was triggered by Ashihara--Implying Ashihara may be an older Yun.
Season 2 can come soon enough.
Ultima had a cool design and there were some cool moments and concepts, but a lot of these moments and ideas were pretty much just copied from Shin Godzilla, and to be honest, I felt that they worked better in Shin than they did in Singular Point.
I think Godzilla's metamorphosis worked better in Shin because the forms felt like a realistic transformation, starting as an aquatic creature that grows limbs, looses its gills and begins to adapt to a terrestrial lifestyle, growing and changing its form to defend itself from threats. It reminded me of the metamorphosis of a tadpole becoming a frog. Singular Point's metamorphosis didn't make much sense, it starts out as a more aquatic Titanosaurus, randomly becomes Varan, cocoons itself and becomes a weird Godzilla/Python/Dinosaur thing with living blood tentacles, and then just randomly becomes Godzilla. Nothing about that transformation felt organic.
I liked that Godzilla Ultima felt apocalyptic, the problem was that his inclusion kind of felt like an afterthought. The plot seemed more focused on its physics lectures and other concepts, to the point where Godzilla felt like he was pushed to the background and at times it felt like the series forgot about him.
Directors say Godzilla wins, so de facto Godzilla King of Monsters is King of Kong
https://movieweb.com/godzilla-vs-kong-definitive-winner/
I disagree. I love shin, but Ultima completely took me by surprise. I wasn't very stoked about the idea of another evolving godzilla and loved the execution and showa monster esque designs. Im not mad about seeing these kaiju on their own because in and of themselves they are very bland, (and varan is one of my favorite kaiju ever.) The show looked so showa-ey and I love it. Godzilla himself seems more intelligent, then the more animalistic godzillas we've been getting, (Shin, MOnsterverse, HEsei, Kyriugoji). THis godzilla also felt very apocalyptic and godlike to me, which is what ive always really wanted with a godzilla.
I love singular point, Ive rewatched it about four times so far. Each time ive realized more and more about the plot. And it gets better. PEople ive watched it with also help me realize new things. its really amazing. But i still hate the english dub
I agree completely. I love the idea of Ghidorah as an eldritch unknowable entity, Cosmic horror works well in the kaiju genre
After seeing Singular Point, my final choice is Shin Godzilla, no contest. So far it's the only entry in the Reiwa series that I fully enjoyed. Plus, I found that version to be the most interesting.
Sawada has really knocked it out of the park.
TitanMaster,
I find the anime King Ghidorah on of the most terrifying and hopeless incarnations ever. He was quite literally unbeatable with a host driving his animosity.
I was looking for a specific song I know the march theme gets a lot of attention but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8h3PJ3Ypk&list=PLY9tfiQmWC_MIVNE19OVKVbAw5RNJtwMB&index=30 at 1;51 is my favorite theme ever
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13886020/1/Pacific-Rim-Kaiju-of-Steel
Godzilla x Pacific Rim: The Black crossover. Mostly uses monsterverse and previous eras though there are some cameos from Singular Point characters
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13886020/1/Pacific-Rim-Kaiju-of-Steel
This is a Godzilla x Pacific Rim crossover I am making rn. It takes from the Pacific Rim anime as well as both the Monsterverse and some cameos from Singular Point characters.
The only kaiju I really hate is Hedorah. His eyes will haunt my nightmares to this day
I mean, look at this. It's disgusting
Geez, where do I start...? The airport entrance in 2014 was intense, but If I had to pick a defining scene, it would be when he decimates Ghidorah in KOTM and then when the other monsters arrive and actually BOW TO HIM. What other Godzilla has had other kaiju bow and show their allegiance to him.
LONG LIVE THE KING!
Ultima, no question. Singular Point was most loyal to the OGs in my opinion. Shin is just the most disgusting thing I have ever seen and while I accepted the Earth Godzilla design, that particular trilogy kinda sucked. Like seriously, WHY is mechagodzilla a city and WHY, just WHY is Ghidorah so underwhelming. He's supposed to be the titan usurper, the One Who is Many, the Devil With Three Heads! All we got was three really long necks and the only kaiju battle that bored me.
Now, going to Godzilla Ultima, I was admittedly a little wary of the whole evolution thing after Shin, but once I saw Ultima, my doubts were gone. I just sat there in awe as he arose, walking through the city to the booming melody of his original theme, which now has VOCALS (I actually got goosebumps). His thighs were a bit thicc, but I'll let it slide. out of the three Reiwa versions, Ultima is by far the most loyal to the eras before, and that's what really helped me make my choice.
Is there any competition? Gigan is way cooler. Final Wars Gigan is the absolute best, my second favorite kaiju, second only to the big G himself.
I agree. the only thing I want to argue is Kong ruling Hollow Earth. As far as we know, he's the only Alpha Titan down there, so I see no issue in him being king down there, as long as Godzilla stays King of the Monsters. Like seriously, how did ANYONE think Kong could win after seeing Godzilla go beast mode on him in Hong Kong. I see Godzilla drill a hole into Hollow Earth and I already knew he was going to come out on top.
LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
I started with the Death Battle of Godzilla vs Gamera on Youtube, but that was only a small taste of what I realized I was getting myself into. It wasn't until I watched my first ever Godzilla movie, Godzilla 2014, that I really saw just how intimidating and powerful he really was. Seeing him an action as well as watching many of the other original kaiju in action really solidified my interest. LONG LIVE THE KING!
The Singular Point soundtrack dropped today and it is gorgeous.
not that ad...
I mean its not the worst but still
Personally, as long as Godzilla looks like Godzilla, I'm cool. Also, here's (Godzilla?) with a mohawk I guess...
