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The Doctor

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I watched the original, 1954, Japanese Godzilla with English subtitles last Saturday (10-11-14) with my soul brother, member Indiana Jones. He brought it over for us to watch because I had never seen the original (hold the hate comments). Eventually we got to the point where Doctor Serizawa was given the opportunity to make the decision of whether or not he was going to use the Oxygen Destroyer to kill Godzilla and the rest of the ocean, or let Godzilla and the ocean life live and find a different way to subdue the beast.

                 Dr Serizawa

Me and Doctor Jones came up with a ‘would you rather’ by basically copying the situation from the movie; “Would you rather use the Oxygen Destroyer to kill Godzilla and save the day, or let the ocean live?”

 

At first, I found it a difficult decision. Though after a few seconds of thinking, I decided I would NOT use the device and would destroy it. The reason being the obvious effects of the ocean being dead; a missing major food source being the main effect. Not only that, but also a bunch of other things that I don’t really feel like listing. :P

 

PLEASE. Tell me what your decision would be, in the comments below. (Especially you Indy. You never told me what you’d do)

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Mech Rodan
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I wouldn't use the device but still destroy it in the end. After that event, probably the whole world ended because of the fish dying in that bay, then the surronding marine life died from no food, then the whole freaking ocean loses its eosystem, then birds that eat fish die, the the planet loses all life. Simple as that. (ignore the lack of actual knowledge and logic I just displayed. :p)

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we think alike. thank you for the input Mech Rodan. :)

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Mech Rodan
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You are very welcome. Now if only these stupid ads on my screen were as polite as you. =(

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The Doctor
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:(

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Mech Rodan
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If you think about it. There are different ways to get Godzilla to leave. 1. Wait him out. 2. Leave the country. He won't follow. 3. Use several nukes, I mean like 10 nukes. 4. Just place some shrooms on him and he'll run out of atomic power. :)

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i wouldnt use the oxagen destroyer on the OCEAN, but i would maybe... drop that sucker in godziller's mouth! OH SNAP! i would use it when hes in sucluded water, so it wouldnt kill everything.

"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom

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oh yeah.. shrooms are parasites...

 

also, cool idea Dr Jones. that would be a hilariously horrible thing to do to Godzilla. XD yet it would probably be very effective

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But it only works in water. Not in areas that are wet. The trhoat is not made of water so the oxygen destroyer wouldn't work. It would just give Gojira a bad tummy ache. :p

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hmm... I suppose so...

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The Oxygen Destroyer ultimately ended up being a bad decision in the end. In every continuity, Godzilla came back, whether regenerated from nothing or another member of the species entirely. Plus, the Oxygen Destroyer ultimately spawned Destoroyah, who is by far a worse monster than Godzilla.

"When man falls into conflict with nature, monsters are born." - Professor Hayashida, The Return of Godzilla

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THE DOCTOR - My first instinct is to destroy the device in favor of its power never being brought to bear within Mankind's wars against himself. That being said, were I left with no other alternative, I'd utilize the Oxygen Destroyer to save as many lives as possible from Godzilla's ravages. The toal on oceanic life would, of course, be beyond what I'm willing to pay, thus I'd attempt to contrive a method to lure Godzilla into a water trap (perhaps a naval yard with subarine docks) and engage the Oxygen Destroyer therein. That would at least prevent some of the devestation that would be wrought upon the ocean's biosphere.

    This was a very fun topic to consider! Thank you so very much for presenting this to us! :)

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Cauker.

“Give me where to stand and I will move the earth”.

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haha you said throat

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That's what that means??

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The Doctor
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@SOMETHING REAL: that's a very detailed description. very complex. it could definitely work.

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what does "Cauker" mean?

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Steven Roy Caulker is an English professional footballe

"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom

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THE DOCTOR - Hahaha! Oh, I'm sure the theory is sound. However, given Godzilla's track record of being able to ruin even the best laid plans, I'd give my scheme about a 5% chance of success! ;)

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:P oh you silly people

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oh you silly billys

"That is one big pile of sh*t" -Doctor Ian Malcom

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The Doctor
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Wow. This is my first discussion to make it to 20 replies. Thank you all! :_)

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THE DOCTOR - You're most welcome, sweetie! Congratulations on your post reaching such a high mark! You should be very pleased! :)

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Godzilla 1954 is a demon, a beast freak of nature that wasnt meant to exist.

He had to be killed at all costs. He wasnt like the other Godzilla's, he killed and laughed while doing so, he couldnt have been left to survive.

Good grief.

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The Doctor
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:( I'm sorry GorillaGodzilla

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Why are you sorry? I was just stating what i would do in that situation.

Good grief.

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The Doctor
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I'm just sorry if my choice dissapointed you.

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Gojira in the originall whas only and enraged animal, The Frigate sent by the navy to stpo at odo island only made him mad and caused it to change its course to tokyo, where the Ligths acording to yamame in this film and Godzilla raids again, made him atack as it remembered him of the nuclear bomb that awakened it

i wouldn't use the Oxyegen Destroyher, an esasier solution and that breegly succeded in the next film, is to just turn of the City's power, and Lure awhay godzilla with Flares, even Serisawa knew The Oxigen Destroyher would cause more damage than godzilla, so he made sure it would never be used again

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GORILLAGODZILLA - I agree. The original Godzilla was a MONSTER! I used to have nightmares about him when I was a little girl! :)

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GG i think you are confusing that Godzilla with GMK godzilla, The originall whas a creature that didn't know it place in the present time

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no matter the cause and how the conflict was resolved it was an awesome movie

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Something real- Ikr, out of all the Gojira's the original is terrifying, i always cringed when he killed those people with his breath.

JRR- I think you are confusing GMK with 54, Godzilla 1954 was a thinking sentient being. It new what it was doing when it killed the woman with her child, it knew what it was doing and you cant deny that.

Gmk was the animal, he wasnt really thinking nor was he smart, he killed himself.

Good grief.

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holy crap. my discussion made it to 30 replies XD

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GORILLAGODZILLA - Indeed! Those sequences were bloody awful - and terrifying! The initial scenes of the film showing the little children undergoing screening for radiation poisoning are dreadful - and let you know just what sort of movie you're about to behold! :)

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GG Did you just say gmk was a animal? You just told me yesterday he was basically a human

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GG, 1954 godzzilla whas just an animal, he killed everihting cause he whas angry at mankind, like any normall animall wouild do

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A normal animal wouldnt have the sheer intelligence to want to destroy mankind, Gmk however was acting on instinct to destroy everything due to the rage from the souls within.

Flyers GMK was being controlled though, he is not a human but he has mroe intelligence then the average beast.

Good grief.

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GG many aninals have that inteligence, if you can call it that, its just instinct, and GMK godzilla is not really beeing controlled by the souls, like Gman said its a dub error

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I don't ever remember him not wanting to use it because of the ocean, I though it was moreso to keep it out of the eye of mankind.

Anyway I'd use the weapon, Godzilla was essentially a guarantee at death and destruction being brought on people, whereas everything else you at least had a chance of making it out

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@Indiana Jones... I was thinking about dropping it down Godzilla's throat, but then I read your comment.

 

@Something Real, I can see that working.

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I'm glad someone like Durp finally, after three pages, pointed out the big flaw in the question here. Dr. Serizawa didn't want to use the Oxygen Destroyer because he didn't want to reveal a new super weapon to mankind. It had nothing to do with killing sea life and fish. Hell he was content with doing that in a water tank in his lab.

The dilemma as that his weapon was just as deadly, if not more so, than the Nuclear Bomb. That was the whole reason he sacrificed himself. He didn't want some super power to kidnap him and force the formula out of him.

The sea life in Tokyo Bay had probably already been damaged by Godzilla. Earlier in the movie it's established that Godzilla is responsible for the bad fishing season along the cost of Odo Island. Although there was clearly still sea life in Tokyo Bay when Serizawa and Ogata went to drop the Oxygen Destroyer, (either from using them as a food source or killing them with his bodies' radioactivity) the sea life was most likely already harmed by Godzilla's presense. So why even bother considering that an issue?

The really issue about the Oxygen Destroyer is the idea that it's the atomic bomb 2. Would you really expose the world to something that dangerous again? What if there was just reason to use would you still? That's the bigger issue.

MechRodan,
I find your idea of using 10 nuclear bombs against Godzilla in the original film directly in contradiction with everything it's about. Japan was still trembling from nuclear terror and even against Godzilla I think the country would have ruled out a nuclear offensive against something in its own waters.

GorillaGodzilla,
There's nothing in the movie to suggest that Godzilla in 1954 was sentient. If anything he was made to be tragic.

Honda himself said, "Monsters are tragic beings; they are born too tall, too strong, too heavy, they are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy." And while making the original film Tsuburaya even emphasized to Haruo Nakajima that Godzilla can't be directly looking for something to destroy, but rather knock over what ever is in his way. Meaning he was intentionally trying to kill anyone unless they aggitated him.

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