Is the 2014 Atomic Breath the same as the Showa era Atomic Breath?

if its Probably he can also controll its streangth like the shwa version

i Like 2014 But it needed to be a thicker flame that comes out like something he cant control but still have control over it if you know what i mean just look how thick 2004 was, it should at least be around that size dont get me wrong it was still great but it could have been more epic 

It's also not a stream of radiation like previous iterations, but rather plasma. Also, the one we saw in the 22014 movie wasn't able to be utilized to its full potential due to the EMPs of the MUTOs. However, I hope the same won't be true in later films. In fact, I could forsee a fully-powered "super" atomic plasma breath showing itself as being a pure-white disntegrating stream, with Godzilla's dorsal spikes glowing pure white, all as an homage to the very original Gojira.

It not the showa. I made a post about this a while ago. Showas atomic breath wasnt powerful! It would stun the opponent and maybe have some sparks come up. Godzilla 2014s atomic breath Gareth Edwards said in the making of book knocked out the Femalemuto for 5 minutes straight. Also when you said that, "All it did was make the female muto have some horrible burns and be injured" Is kind of contradictory to what you were getting at with this post. Also if you didnt notice Godzilla 2014s atomic breath made literall steam come off of the femalemuto, if you dont believe me when i said she was knocked out! Not only you have to read what gareth said in the making of book, when Godzilla fought the male for the last time look at the female she is on the ground her face is on the ground. And when she goes to see the eggs she just woke up due to her faciall expression. Also the breath heavily wounded the female to the point of her being on her deathbed. All it took was one mroe blast of it, so lets count. Showa Godzilla atomic breath? takes about use of 10 times to really damage. Godzilla 2014 atomic breath? Kills femalemuto with 2 blasts.

Showa Godzilla's atomic breath actually generally did just as much damage to average monsters as G2014's did (for example, whenever he used it on Mechagodzilla, it did real damage and staggered him, and it only took about 4 or 5 hits to destroy him, IIRC). Also, I don't know if you saw the same movie as me, but LPG didn't kill the Muto with 2 blasts, or even K.O. it; it was definitely badly hurt, but probably not "on her deathbed" (if she was, Godzilla probably would have just hit her with it again to finish her off rather than firing it down her throat).

And it was at full strength in the movie; the whole "electrical sac" thing was completely made up for the novel, and film novelizations are never canon to the film itself, as far as I know.

I guess power wise they're similar, but showa doesn't require the long charge up time that G14 did

Linkzilla- There is absolutely no way it was at full power. Gareth edwards confirmed that the electrical sack was true! Also because of the electrical sack he wasnt able to use it twice, if he dd it would have killed the female. Ok stop downgrading Godzilla 2014 on things your not certain about, i dont mean to be rude or mean but you have to have alot of knowledge on Godzilla 2014 before you come to a debate. Durpoo the charge time was for dramatic effect i can bet you a million it wont happen again.

Linkzilla- I saw Godzilla vs mechaGodzilla a few days ago and his atomic breath just made some sparks on MechaG. For the duration that he used it while also being severely weakened even if you dont believe the sack theory that Breath was not even close to full power. If your saying thats the full power then your saying Godzilla 2014 didnt hunt mutos. Watch the breath scene again on the dvd and understand this debate better.

When did gareth say the electric sack was true, link me to the interview where he says this. Let's also assume(as you seem to love to to with anything concerning G14) that is has a lower charge time. No, I'd rather go off what I've seen, he uses the breath twice, both times it has a charge up time and there's no mention of an electric sack anywhere in the movie. I love the statement, "stop downgrading G14 on things you're not certain about", as most of your arguments for G14 are based on assumption not fact. We see his breath in the movie, it's never addressed to be weaker, and it has a long charge time both times it's used. Those are facts. That is what happened in the movie so I'm going to judge the breath based on that rather than assumptions that it might, key word being might, be stronger. Until the sequel comes out and he uses a stronger breath I'm holding my stance he has one of the weakest atomic breaths.

@DURPOO4 Google my friend, it is your best ally. It'd also be nice if you'd change your attitude into a less pessimistic one. Instead of arguing against him, try to see if you can prove what he's claimed. Right now, it seems like you're arguing just for the heck of being analytical. It also seems like there might be a little bit of nostalgia working against you. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just telling you all that I can observe from your paragraphs without accepting any other source even if it's from your mouth. That is how you're treating this argument, correct? Anything not specified in the movie can't be true, that is your way of thinking right? 

He was beaten down by two powerful MUTOs at once, was hit with electrical-sack-impairing locally-administered EMP strikes, and STILL managed to conjure up enough strength to let out some plasma. All things considered, it wouldn't be as strong as it could've been, but still did some major damage, permanently destroying the regenerative cells of the female MUTO, being the only evolved weapon capable of doing so.

Godzilla's ray in the new movie doesn't look particularly strong, but I'd prefer it to not be that strong in comparison to other Godzillas. By the Heisei and Millennium series it all came down to Godzilla's ray and the trump card of a powerful beam got real boring real fast.

What's more important, and ultimately much cooler, is how much it reminds me of the 1954 atomic breath. Although it's not misty, there's a sort of hollow substance to the new breath design that calls back some great images from the original film. If the intent was to make Godzilla's ray as a sort of homage to the original movie, mission accomplished. It was very cool.

Now, hold on there Gman #1! That stuff is pure plasma! That could melt through nearly anything! Blue is the second highest colour of intensity, meaning it can only get more powerful by showing a pure white hue.

I personally have a question though. I just attempted to make DURPOO4 think about his behavior in being a skeptic, but it has came to my attention that I cannot find a known interview that mentions an electrical sack of any kind. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would show it to me. All I can currently find when searching said term is empty speculation without any hard evidence or direct sources. 

@The-True-Batman I'm accepting the source from the movie. That's the most credible source possible. The reason I was asking his to point me to an interview is because one doesn't exist and I just wanted to see what he would do. When discussing this type of thing I go off what the movies show. Gorillagodzilla, as he has multiple times before, tries to validate this new godzilla as being the great strong monster among the variations by giving him stats that he doesn't, or hasn't shown to have(strongest melee, best atomic breath, speed ect). And yes when something that key as to his atomic breath being weakened isn't addressed in a movie I don't consider it, especially when it could have just been addressed in the simplest of a sentense similar to, "the emp seems to be effecting him" or anything to that value. Then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but since nothing even close to that happened, no I won't assume this Godzilla has a super strong atomic breath just for the sake of believing.

So is my attitude pessimistic or realist? Since I'm going of things proven I'd like to go with realist

Fair enough my friend. I feel it was absolutely wrong of me to assume that he had obtained that informatin from a credible source and am deeply sorry for that mistake. I would like to address something though: The EMPs very inclusion in the movie could be support for his case. Usually when you give an enemy an ability, it's because it affects the protagonist. As a realist you could simply look over that scenario because it's one big grey area, not black and white. As an artist this could potentially be an extroadanary find since movie making in an essence, is a form of art. 

Your view is certainly needed though. It keeps fools like me level headed and away from the quirky so called "theories" that people pass off as real. ;) 

Godzilla has the second strongest atomic breath of all time. Most monsters that took godzilla atomic breath in the old movies kept comming. The new one on the other hand layed the female down for the count. And the heat and radition is what made the muto's head come off! Godzilla final wars has the strongest atomic breath

I will try and find the interview again, it was a video with Gareth talking about the novelization and what he loved about it. Maybe i heard it wrong but type in what i described it should come up!

here you go http://www.mutoresearch.net/

its also in the making of book where they talk about how they made him.

Well as one who constantly questioned why the MUTOs needed an EMP pulse in prehistoric times, it would make sense for Godzilla to have an electrical sack, especially since it was established in the movie that they were natural enemies.

@TheGman123
I fail to see how any of that has a great deal to do with my post or why you couldn't apply your logic to 26 out of the 29 Godzilla incarnations.

@GORILLAGODZILLA77897 There's no interview in that link.

Unless it is actually confirmed in a future film or by Edwards or someone else with authority that LPG does indeed have this "electric sac" that is impaired by EMPs, I will assume that the real purpose of the red pulse released from the Mutos' claws is to cause additional internal damage via the shockwave it produces, and that the EMP is merely a side effect.

Well, I remember coming up with the theory a LONG time ago, back when we were still being teased like crazy. Ah......... good times. And it was very nice to know that I was right when it came to how the new atomic breath would take form. In fact, it's not even really an 'atomic" breath anymore, since it's pure plasma. Now, as plasma works the way it does, that means no "beam-battles" or whatnot, but then again........ beam battles didn't logically work anyways.

A stream of pure radiation, even with the force of an atomic bomb behind it, isn't really gonna engage in a struggle with another "beam". It would just explode into pretty colours, or sweep up the attack in its path :P

Anyways....... we know Godzilla uses electricity from somewhere to super-ionize gases in his body, powered by his radiation reserves, to create pure plasma, which can permanently destroy MUTO cells that can regenerate quite quickly and efficiently. Granted, it's nowhere near Orga levels. More like G2000 levels. That in adn of itself is quite the feat, but until we see it's usage on the environment, we can't judge its power yet due to its impaired force in the movie and novel.

However, judging from its intensity and the facts about plasma in general...... it's probably gonna melt buildings and other kinds of structures alike like melting butter in an oven ;)

I’m in a bit of a rush, so if someone has already mentioned this, my apologies. The Heisei and Millennium era breath weapons have something that the Showa does not, which makes one think they are more powerful. Namely, they have concussive properties. Godzilla never forced an opponent backwards in the Showa era with his breath weapon because it was primarily a heat-weapon. He could melt things with it. Heisei breath was largely a concussion force, which would push things around, while having surprisingly little heat. 2014 Godzilla’s breath weapon is, like Showa, a heat-weapon. No concussive force behind it.

Um nietzsche, the breath pushed back the Female quite abit.

It did but I think she was just retreating, trying to evade it as it was probably horribly painful.

Durpoo- also im absolutely not saying he is the most powerful breath in Godzilla history. Im stating that his breath is no slouch. If he did use the breath a second time on the mutos body not the throat it still would have killed her.

Your not taking into account what had happend before that scene. He killed the male and then he had enough and wanted to end the battle definitively, ever get the feeling that this Godzilla was semi sentient? he was tired after 4 days straight of hunting and fighting. by breathing it down her throat. And i never said Godzilla 2014 is the fasted or best melee.

I was saying he can do alot more then some of the original Godzilla's. What i have been shocked at lately is that its the first time were seeing a realistic Atomic breath and your calling it one of the weakest.

I mostly agree with you Durpoo but there are statements you make that arent true. The weakest atomic breath GvsKK, Godzilla 2014s breath pushed back the female with concussive force while using extreme heat to actually leave a hole in her head and let steam come out!

All im saying is atleast give Godzilla 2014 some credit he is the first american one and most likely the last. You all should appreciate the sequels and this film ok. It has been 10 years since a Godzilla movie and we got a awesome one. Ok maybe after you see Godzilla 2014 fight Ghidorah or something you will stop downgrading him. So i dont want to get into anymore fights with people because i love everyone here! So please understand my posts.

Well,  I believe that the Muto EMP basically proves the electric sack theory in my opinion. Look wise, Showa and Legendary look very similar but in power, I dunno

You know, my ideas for a "super" plasma breath in the future got me thinking....... this plasma breath is already quite intense to the eyes, and only a pure white glow from the dorsal spikes and breath could surpass it, but then....... it might be a bit blinding, that way, wouldn't it?

GorillaGodzilla- The FeMUTO was recoiling in pain, not being pushed back by the breath weapon. If it were being pushed back, it would’ve likely lost balance and fell backwards. Instead it was trying to get away. Also, when Goji was force-feeding it the weapon, it was never pushed down. Goji was quite easily keeping her in place. If it were concussive, he would’ve been struggling to hold it still.

All I can think of is if beam locks are no longer an option, then that's boring as hell... Who cares how strong the rays are if they're no fun? At least his new ray looks cool.

I never understood the appeal of a beam-lock. It's rather lazy and visually, each of them are effectively the same.

^It's the aftermath that differs. Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla, Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II and Godzilla Final Wars all had very different outcomes from the beam lock. Flashing animations vs. spark bombs vs. mass explosions keeps things pretty fun.

To each their own. I still dislike it. I’d rather the beams be more than blasts from the punch-dimension.

^Lucky for you, 95% of the time, they are in this series.

@GORILLAGODZILLA11897 Nobody is "downgrading" LPG here. I'm sorry that you can't seem to understand this, but we don't all base our opinion of how powerful a movie monster is on how much we like the movie it's from. Godzilla 2014 is one of my favorite Godzilla movies, and I absolutely appreciate how lucky we are that it exists, but that doesn't mean I have to pretend that he's one of the most powerful incarnations of Godzilla in any respect. He's probably in the upper half of them, but only because of his size; if they were all the same size, he definitely would not rank highly. I don't think this because of some dislike for him, but simply because it's true. The more grounded/"realistic" tone of the film means that he doesn't do ridiculous things like perform martial arts, jump thousands of feet in the air, throw things twice his own weight like ragdolls, fight for hours without tiring, effortlessly resist enemy monsters' attacks, regenerate at speeds that put Wolverine to shame, blow other monsters to kingdom come with his Atomic Breath, or absorb large amounts of energy to use even more ridiculously powerful Spiral Rays; since these are all things that other Godzillas can do (not even mentioning the stuff Final Wars Goji pulled off), LPG naturally falls behind somewhat in terms of power. This doesn't mean that I think he's one of the "worst" Godzillas, just that he's not a particularly powerful one.

As for the whole electric sac thing, unless the interview Gorilla Godzilla has mentioned is real (I have searched quite a bit and not found even any mention of it), there is literally nothing that indicates that it exists in the film canon. I could say that the Mutos' EMP ability proves that there was an advanced civilization during Godzilla's time, and it would make just as much sense as saying that it proves Godzilla has an organ that was only mentioned in a non-canon novelization written by omeone not involved in the making of the film.

More on-topic, I think some people seriously need to go and rewatch the Showa films and reconsider how weak they seem to think Showa Godzilla's Atomic Breath is. The only monsters I can think of that were able to just "keep coming" when they were hit by it were Rodan and Hedorah; other than that, just about every monster, even powerhouses like King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla, were knocked down, staggered, or otherwise showed signs of really being hurt by it. Now, two blasts from LPG's Atomic Breath did hurt the Muto more than two blasts from Showa Goji's generally does, but we must remember that not only did it take 17 seconds to charge them, but each blast lasted about 5 seconds, whereas Showa Goji's generally last about 1 second; if his Atomic Breath was sustained for as long as LPG's, it would probably do just about as much damage. Because of this, I'd say that the answer to the question posed in the title is yes, LPG's Atomic Breath is just about the same power level as Showa Goji's... assuming the Showa monsters are at roughly the same level of durability as the Legendary-verse monsters (i.e. able to tank nukes), which is hard to tell due to the inconsistencies and all around nonsense of the Showa series.

"Non-canon novelization"...... whilst co-developed alongside the movie as an expansion of the events in the film...... whilst also explaining other key elements not explored in the film, and actually gives some depth and expands on what we've seen........

If the novel weren't canon, then Godzilla doesn't have a plasma breath, nor would the MUTOs have any reason to have EMPs that are clearly not just accidents, but specifically evolved weapons. Sure, we can debate the whole "electrical sack" thing for awhile, but it just makes sense, and it all fit together rather nicely, really.

Had this Godzilla simply used a radiation stream like past iterations, he wouldn't have been able to kill the female MUTO, due to her being able to simply absorb the radiation. Plasma makes sense, and its general physics shows it to be extremely powerful. As well, using plasma reall does pay homage to the original Gojira, because its gaseous energy-based form resembles the original, and would logically melt stuff in a similar manner, only more dramaticallly and with more efficiency.

Whether or not it's going to be able to hold up against other radiation-based atomic breaths depends on its usage, if any, outside of monster-on-monster combat. It's definitely got to be more powerful next time around, unless some other giant monster is throwing around EMPs like no tomorrow.

Gman, your reasoning is a bit flawed. Yes, they feed on radiation. But I could kill you by forcing you to drink too much water. Or by giving you pure oxygen. Second, the dangerous-radiation aspect is only part of it. The heat from it is likely doing plenty of damage. If I served you a hamburger that was on fire and made you eat it, it would hurt. Their body, and yours, cannot repair the damage quickly enough for it to be a net-gain.