If Godzilla (2014) is successful.....

MonsterMovieguy
MemberMothra LarvaeApril 30, 20141713 Views30 RepliesWhat crossovers from other successful movies will we see? Godzilla vs Pacific Rim or Godzilla vs Man of Steel or.... Godzilla vs the Avengers?! What possible crossovers do you see happening?
"By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people."
I don't see any crossovers happening. Zach Snyder and company already have their hands full crossing over Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and those other DC superheroes to also include Godzilla. The Avengers are owned by companies that are direct competitors with WB and Legendary.
And yes, I know that Gareth Edwards and Guillermo del Toro were mulling over a Godzilla/Pacific Rim crossover, but I think it has been well established that the mood and level of realism for each are too different, and the backstories for each fictional universe are so mutually exclusive that they couldn't crossover even if they wanted them to. As an aside, "Godzilla vs. Pacific Rim" is really weird wording.
The biggest chance of a crossover would be another King Kong vs Godzilla, and that's very unlikely. I'm pretty sure the Pacific rim crossover was a joke, and no way he'd be in a crossover with DC/Marvel characters.
You want Godzilla to be successful yet want crossovers with Superheros. Do you truly want crossovers? Godzilla vs Pacific Rim would also be outrageoulsy dumb, let's be honest, folks.
Funny you should post this question. I'm in a middle of writing a script/story for a Godzilla sequel involving Mecha-Godzilla. I'll post it here on the forum when I finish.
As for a cross-over, We might possibly, Though very unlikely see a Godzilla vs Pacific Rim cross-over, Or given the fact that legendary will from now on co-produce alongside Universal, A King Kong vs Godzilla crossover is as likely as ever, Though still very unlikely.
I believe that since the release of Cloverfield a few years back, internet users have been wondering who'd win in a fight between Godzilla vs. Clover!
There will be no crossover. Americans think monster vs monster battles are silly, which is why they tend to flop in the US. No way will a studio spend $200 million dollars on King Kong vs Godzilla when there is a 95% chance that it would lose 10s of millions. Think about it, no Godzilla vs monster movie has EVER done well in the US. We enjoy his battles, because we are Godzilla fans, but the general public think they are so cheesy. Other than the horrible Godzilla 1998, which grossed about $150 million in the US, the biggest grossing Godzila movie was Godzilla 2000 which made about $10 million.
You're not factoring in the inflation of ticket sales when you say 2000 was the largest grossing. King of the monsters grossed 2 million and king kong vs Godzilla grossed roughly 1.25 million. 10 million in 2000 isn't as impressive as the other 2 movies grossed for their timeframe.
I hope there is no Godzilla vs Pacific Rim... This won't work as good as Godzilla alone and would make it cheesy.
I don't think Pacific Rim is a bad movie, but I had high expectations and was really disappointed after watching it in the theatre.
It wasn't a bad movie overall, there have nice CG effects, big battles and huge kaijus, but the story was really worse, the actors played (in my opinion) like it was their first movie ever and there were so many cheesy things which made the movie not so serious.
I didn't like the intro (the first years of the kaiju attacks and all the beginning were rushly shown in a few minutes, that's not how a good movie with good story starts...) and the fights were more like a some drunk bullys fighting outside a bar. Shortly said: Pacific Rim is unrealistic, little bit cheesy and the complete oppositve of Godzilla 2014.
Godzilla is completely different, there is dramatically and human acting, the story (will) be more interesing and the monsters & fights (hopefully) will be more epic and realistic (as realistic as it could be in a Sci-Fi-movie ^^).
AND: Godzilla is a god. He would smash all Jaegers or use his atomic breath and blast them away within seconds :)
To be honest, Godilla 2014 should NOT do any crossover with another movie franchise. That would destroy the new serious, dark and realistic line of Godzilla because it would get ridicilous...
Just my opinion :)
I would also like to add that one of the reasons why the MUTOs are shown in the European and Asian trailers, but not so much in the American trailers, is because showing a flying monster to Americans immediated provokes snickers, unless they are dragons in medieval movies. The studios wouldn't know how to market another Godzilla movie with more monsters. This is it! There won't be another Americanize Godzilla for a long time.
@Chelgri To be honest, that's kind of the point of Pacific Rim. Glorifying the crazy awesome yet equally cheesy nature of giant monster films of old that encompassed the 60s and 70s. Those were the days people could just enjoy their monster films. Now, this isn't putting down the serious daikaiju flicks, but that was kind of the point with all those cliches and supposedly horrible writing for that love-letter of a movie.
Basically, there are two kinds of kaiju movie. Serious flicks that invoke emotions that can't be replicated by any other serious mediums, and then there's the fun stuff that you like to see for its action, and not hate because the story and characters are SUPPOSED to be kinda ridiculous.
I agree a cross-over for the Godzilla film sequel is problematic and should be avoided.
However, just because it won't work on film does not mean it won't work in other medium too. Comics, video games or novel might work. Those medium have greater creative room and flexibility.
To cite an example, look at the Alien vs Predator films. Both of those AVP films were crap in my opinion. But the video game was fun to play and some of the comics wasn't too bad.
^ you dont know that. people saw pacific rim right? well that movie did pretty good in the box office. look at the trailers monsters vs robots all over the place. If this movie does great"which it will" we will get sequals and godzilla will be like the new batman in popular status!
Godzilla vs Kong wouldn't work either. Kong's way too small. and making him the size of Godzilla wouldn't make sense either.
@ZaffZilla
"Pacific Rim" did not do well. It cost $190 million with another $175 million in distribution, marketing and advertising. Box Office Mojo has it making about $400 million worldwide. Which means it cleared about $35 million. $35 million is chump-change to the stock-holders. Shares only increased minimally. With such little profit, you can be sure that there won't be a "Pacific Rim 2". And there will most definitely not be a Godzilla vs Pacific Rim movie. Imagine how stupid the trailers would look.
There are rumors of a Gamera movie coming next year. I would really like to see a Godzilla and Gamera crossover.
To be honest, the Asia trailer made me think of other campy Godzilla films when they showed the Muto flying by the building and towards Godzilla.
Americans don't really accept monster vs monster films, as stated above.
I honestly would have been fine with Godzilla just by himself in the film. As a matter of fact, I remember being incredibly angry during pre-production that there were word of a kaiju in the comic con trailer. I just want people to take this movie as seriously as possible. I don;t think americans will take it as seriously as the film would like to be.
Why are we comparing Pacific Rim to Godzilla. Yeah they're similar movies but that's not what matters what matters in name association. Why do you think there are superhero movies that blow others away, it's because of the superheros getting used have different levels of fanbase and spotlight to compare Godzilla to unnamed new monsters and robots is like comparing a movie with Superman in the title to one with Micron(this is another DC super hero for those who don't know)
As for this crossover, monster vs monster not doing well is laughable. Freddy vs Jason made more than any movie in either franchise before it, and if that's not monster vs. monster enough, Alien vs Predator did well enough to get a sequel because of the profit it made despite almost every1 hating it. Name association is what matters. Pacific Rim made a profit with no names or prior fanbase. Godzilla has both marquee value and a long history that spans worldwide. Even the english trailers show other monsters, it's not like some1 is watching the trailer sees a muto and goes, "oh 2 monsters fighting? Not interested in that movie anymore."
^Nail on head. On all accounts.
@Durpoo4:
I understand where you are coming from, but as an ex 20 year marketing exec of a major movie studio, you are not quite correct. Freddy vs Jason is not considered a monster movie, it is consider a horror flick. Horror flicks always do well, even the most stupid ones. They don't cost that much to make and they have a ready-made teenaged audience. Predator vs Aliens is considered to be horror/sci-fi. Horror/sci-fi movies may not do as well as straight horror movies, but with a title like Predator vs Alien it already has a built in audience. Quick, how many monster vs monster movies have we seen other than the Godzilla franchise (which has never done well showcasing Godzilla vs another monster)... The only one I can think of is "War of the Gargantuans" which I saw way back in the 60s. Godzilla 2014 vs man would be the ultimate battle. And I think that's the fight that the majority of the public would want to see. Godzilla vs MUTOs might be fun for a good percentage of us, but it could just as well be a turn-off for all of those movie-goers who have never taken to the Godzilla franchise.
@Durpoo4:
I understand where you are coming from, but as an ex 20 year marketing exec of a major movie studio, you are not quite correct. Freddy vs Jason is not considered a monster movie, it is consider a horror flick. Horror flicks always do well, even the most stupid ones. They don't cost that much to make and they have a ready-made teenaged audience. Predator vs Aliens is considered to be horror/sci-fi. Horror/sci-fi movies may not do as well as straight horror movies, but with a title like Predator vs Alien it already has a built in audience. Quick, how many monster vs monster movies have we seen other than the Godzilla franchise (which has never done well showcasing Godzilla vs another monster)... The only one I can think of is "War of the Gargantuans" which I saw way back in the 60s. Godzilla 2014 vs man would be the ultimate battle. And I think that's the fight that the majority of the public would want to see. Godzilla vs MUTOs might be fun for a good percentage of us, but it could just as well be a turn-off for all of those movie-goers who have never taken to the Godzilla franchise.