If Godzilla (2014) is successful.....

I don't see any crossovers happening.  Zach Snyder and company already have their hands full crossing over Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and those other DC superheroes to also include Godzilla.  The Avengers are owned by companies that are direct competitors with WB and Legendary.

And yes, I know that Gareth Edwards and Guillermo del Toro were mulling over a Godzilla/Pacific Rim crossover, but I think it has been well established that the mood and level of realism for each are too different, and the backstories for each fictional universe are so mutually exclusive that they couldn't crossover even if they wanted them to.  As an aside, "Godzilla vs. Pacific Rim" is really weird wording.

The biggest chance of a crossover would be another King Kong vs Godzilla, and that's very unlikely. I'm pretty sure the Pacific rim crossover was a joke, and no way he'd be in a  crossover with DC/Marvel characters.

You want Godzilla to be successful yet want crossovers with Superheros. Do you truly want crossovers? Godzilla vs Pacific Rim would also be outrageoulsy dumb, let's be honest, folks.

Funny you should post this question. I'm in a middle of writing a script/story for a Godzilla sequel involving Mecha-Godzilla. I'll post it here on the forum when I finish.

As for a cross-over, We might possibly, Though very unlikely see a Godzilla vs Pacific Rim cross-over, Or given the fact that legendary will from now on co-produce alongside Universal, A King Kong vs Godzilla crossover is as likely as ever, Though still very unlikely.

I believe that since the release of Cloverfield a few years back, internet users have been wondering who'd win in a fight between Godzilla vs. Clover!

There will be no crossover.  Americans think monster vs monster battles are silly, which is why they tend to flop in the US.  No way will a studio spend $200 million dollars on King Kong vs Godzilla when there is a 95% chance that it would lose 10s of millions.  Think about it, no Godzilla vs monster movie has EVER done well in the US.  We enjoy his battles, because we are Godzilla fans, but the general public think they are so cheesy.  Other than the horrible Godzilla 1998, which grossed about $150 million in the US, the biggest grossing Godzila movie was Godzilla 2000 which made about $10 million. 

You're not factoring in the inflation of ticket sales when you say 2000 was the largest grossing. King of the monsters grossed 2 million and king kong vs Godzilla grossed roughly 1.25 million. 10 million in 2000 isn't as impressive as the other 2 movies grossed for their timeframe.

I hope there is no Godzilla vs Pacific Rim... This won't work as good as Godzilla alone and would make it cheesy.

I don't think Pacific Rim is a bad movie, but I had high expectations and was really disappointed after watching it in the theatre.

It wasn't a bad movie overall, there have nice CG effects, big battles and huge kaijus, but the story was really worse, the actors played (in my opinion) like it was their first movie ever and there were so many cheesy things which made the movie not so serious.

I didn't like the intro (the first years of the kaiju attacks and all the beginning were rushly shown in a few minutes, that's not how a good movie with good story starts...) and the fights were more like a some drunk bullys fighting outside a bar. Shortly said: Pacific Rim is unrealistic, little bit cheesy and the complete oppositve of Godzilla 2014.

Godzilla is completely different, there is dramatically and human acting, the story (will) be more interesing and the monsters & fights (hopefully) will be more epic and realistic (as realistic as it could be in a Sci-Fi-movie ^^).

AND: Godzilla is a god. He would smash all Jaegers or use his atomic breath and blast them away within seconds :)

To be honest, Godilla 2014 should NOT do any crossover with another movie franchise. That would destroy the new serious, dark and realistic line of Godzilla because it would get ridicilous...

Just my opinion :)

I would also like to add that one of the reasons why the MUTOs are shown in the European and Asian trailers, but not so much in the American trailers, is because showing a flying monster to Americans immediated provokes snickers, unless they are dragons in medieval movies.  The studios wouldn't know how to market another Godzilla movie with more monsters.  This is it!  There won't be another Americanize Godzilla for a long time. 

@Chelgri To be honest, that's kind of the point of Pacific Rim. Glorifying the crazy awesome yet equally cheesy nature of giant monster films of old that encompassed the 60s and 70s. Those were the days people could just enjoy their monster films. Now, this isn't putting down the serious daikaiju flicks, but that was kind of the point with all those cliches and supposedly horrible writing for that love-letter of a movie.

Basically, there are two kinds of kaiju movie. Serious flicks that invoke emotions that can't be replicated by any other serious mediums, and then there's the fun stuff that you like to see for its action, and not hate because the story and characters are SUPPOSED to be kinda ridiculous.

I agree a cross-over for the Godzilla film sequel is problematic and should be avoided. 

However, just because it won't work on film does not mean it won't work in other medium too. Comics, video games or novel might work. Those medium have greater creative room and flexibility.

To cite an example, look at the Alien vs Predator films. Both of those AVP films were crap in my opinion. But the video game was fun to play and some of the comics wasn't too bad.

^ you dont know that. people saw pacific rim right? well that movie did pretty good in the box office. look at the trailers monsters vs robots all over the place. If this movie does great"which it will" we will get sequals and godzilla will be like the new batman in popular status!

Godzilla vs Kong wouldn't work either. Kong's way too small. and making him the size of Godzilla wouldn't make sense either.

@ZaffZilla

"Pacific Rim" did not do well.  It cost $190 million with another $175 million in distribution, marketing and advertising.  Box Office Mojo has it making about $400 million worldwide.  Which means it cleared about $35 million.  $35 million is chump-change to the stock-holders.  Shares only increased minimally.  With such little profit, you can be sure that there won't be a "Pacific Rim 2".  And there will most definitely not be a Godzilla vs Pacific Rim movie.  Imagine how stupid the trailers would look.

There are rumors of a Gamera movie coming next year. I would really like to see a Godzilla and Gamera crossover.

To be honest, the Asia trailer made me think of other campy Godzilla films when they showed the Muto flying by the building and towards Godzilla.

Americans don't really accept monster vs monster films, as stated above. 

I honestly would have been fine with Godzilla just by himself in the film. As a matter of fact, I remember being incredibly angry during pre-production that there were word of a kaiju in the comic con trailer. I just want people to take this movie as seriously as possible. I don;t think americans will take it as seriously as the film would like to be.

Why are we comparing Pacific Rim to Godzilla. Yeah they're similar movies but that's not what matters what matters in name association. Why do you think there are superhero movies that blow others away, it's because of the superheros getting used have different levels of fanbase and spotlight to compare Godzilla to unnamed new monsters and robots is like comparing a movie with Superman in the title to one with Micron(this is another DC super hero for those who don't know)

As for this crossover, monster vs monster not doing well is laughable. Freddy vs Jason made more than any movie in either franchise before it, and if that's not monster vs. monster enough, Alien vs Predator did well enough to get a sequel because of the profit it made despite almost every1 hating it. Name association is what matters. Pacific Rim made a profit with no names or prior fanbase. Godzilla has both marquee value and a long history that spans worldwide. Even the english trailers show other monsters, it's not like some1 is watching the trailer sees a muto and goes, "oh 2 monsters fighting? Not interested in that movie anymore."

^Nail on head. On all accounts.

@Durpoo4:

I understand where you are coming from, but as an ex 20 year marketing exec of a major movie studio, you are not quite correct.  Freddy vs Jason is not considered a monster movie, it is consider a horror flick.  Horror flicks always do well, even the most stupid ones.  They don't cost that much to make and they have a ready-made teenaged audience.  Predator vs Aliens is considered to be horror/sci-fi.  Horror/sci-fi movies may not do as well as straight horror movies, but with a title like Predator vs Alien it already has a built in audience.  Quick, how many monster vs monster movies have we seen other than the Godzilla franchise (which has never done well showcasing Godzilla vs another monster)... The only one I can think of is "War of the Gargantuans" which I saw way back in the 60s.  Godzilla 2014 vs man would be the ultimate battle.  And I think that's the fight that the majority of the public would want to see.  Godzilla vs MUTOs might be fun for a good percentage of us, but it could just as well be a turn-off for all of those movie-goers who have never taken to the Godzilla franchise.

@Durpoo4:

I understand where you are coming from, but as an ex 20 year marketing exec of a major movie studio, you are not quite correct.  Freddy vs Jason is not considered a monster movie, it is consider a horror flick.  Horror flicks always do well, even the most stupid ones.  They don't cost that much to make and they have a ready-made teenaged audience.  Predator vs Aliens is considered to be horror/sci-fi.  Horror/sci-fi movies may not do as well as straight horror movies, but with a title like Predator vs Alien it already has a built in audience.  Quick, how many monster vs monster movies have we seen other than the Godzilla franchise (which has never done well showcasing Godzilla vs another monster)... The only one I can think of is "War of the Gargantuans" which I saw way back in the 60s.  Godzilla 2014 vs man would be the ultimate battle.  And I think that's the fight that the majority of the public would want to see.  Godzilla vs MUTOs might be fun for a good percentage of us, but it could just as well be a turn-off for all of those movie-goers who have never taken to the Godzilla franchise.

@Ratedrex

I don't know what being a 20 year marketing executive for a major movie studio has to do with classifying the genres of "blank vs. blank" movies, but as a current marketing executive, I can say it doesn't take being in that position to point out that you're splitting hairs.

You continue saying that the monster vs. monster template has never done well, but refuse to acknowledge King Kong vs. Godzilla was not only the most highly attended Godzilla movie in history, but one of the most highly attended international films of 1963. The Godzilla franchise thrived overseas throughout the 1960s and it wasn't until late 60s/70s it pittered off the grid due to leaps in effects with films like 1968's 2001: A Space Odessey.

Now if you wish to revise your position and claim that monster vs. monster films have not been successful since [blank] that would be more believable and true. But like or not Freddy vs. Jason and Alien vs. Predator (not Predator vs. Alien) are considered monster bounts and are typically lumped in the same category as movies like King Kong vs. Godzilla, Frankenstein Meets The Wolfman...etc...etc... Monster vs. monster does not mean "giant creature vs. giant creature". You might want to revise that as well if you mean otherwise.

Meanwhile, Godzilla 1985 got 40% less attendance than Godzilla 2000. That's a 15 year gap and an obvious rise in appreciation for the Japanese franchise even though the latter had a monster vs. monster rumble in it.

GINO made chump change in profit in 1998 and in a very smart ploy to avoid everything that movie did the Legendary film is adding what it lacked: A monster battle.

Man vs. monster may or may not be a more compelling template, but there is absolutely zero proof the the "majority public" want to see it.

@GMAN2887

"King Kong vs Godzilla" made $1.25 million dollars.  Considering inflation, that would be about $10 million in today's market.  Ten million in today's market would be considered a flop. 

I hope Godzilla 2014 does record box-office.  But I'm afraid that the monster vs monster thing, if overdone, will turn some moviegoers off.  I hope I'm wrong

BTW, I'm still in marketing.  I do it now for my own business.

Fuck all you guys! You guys are nothing but nay Sayers and realist. Grow some balls and hope! Godzilla will do good! It will make a shit load of money and be noticed! Their has been only 4 fucking movies shown in the us! And most were by or made by toho using suits! This godzilla is something great! And people keep doubting it! I'm sick of it! I'm going to see this film as a step toward some thing new! You can't compare it to horor films! Cause it's a monster movie! It's going to take off like a rocket this movie will! So watch out! And stop your wining and bitching I'm out!

@RatedRex In general, this is more of a three-way between Humanity, the Mutos, and Godzilla. Audiences got a taste of mech-vs-monster action with Pacific Rim, and it satisfied, but was only half of why people like daikaiju films. The other is the struggle of humans against giant monsters in general, whether or not they're fighting each other. No matter what, you can never make humans win without it not making logical sense in the perspective of the movie logic.

It's not a question of making it monster-vs-monster exclusively with a few humans thrown in. The movie is about humans thrown into the mash-up between forces they can't control, but still heavily involved when they shouldn't be. If it were a stand-alone Godzilla flick with no other adversaries of equal power, it'd be a pretty bad Godzilla movie to start off since it's been established that humans can't do a damn thing.

Basically, if you don't have really powerful superweapons or other equally powerful independent forces like other monsters, it's just humans losing to Godzilla without him having any challenge for him to struggle through as well as the characters, or the character being ruined by "realistic damage logistics" like the 1998 film. It's Godzilla. If he's not fighitng something worthy of a challenge, it's not really gonna work either way.

"Ooh Zaffzilla, what horrible language" (from the twins in "Ghidrah, the Three Headed Monster"). 

Hey man, lighten up.  Its just conversation.  Don't take it personal.  Nobody's doubting Godzilla.  I said that it will gross $800-$1 billion.  How is that doubting it?  In a couple of weeks we all will be telling happy stories about how great the movie was.  Even my 82 year-old-old father is going to go with me to see it.

Aliens vs Predator films was not well-received by the fans and critics. Neither the first one or the second one. Sure, the concept could have worked with a more talented director (Paul Anderson is lousy director in my opinion, he should stick to his Resident Evil genres). But thanks to how they ruined it, I don't think we'll see a AVP film in a long while, a decent one anyway.

Godzilla vs KingKong worked not because it was a cross-over but because the story had appeal.

You can just automatically say "cross-over" and expect the film to work.

Aliens vs Predator films was not well-received by the fans and critics. Neither the first one or the second one. Sure, the concept could have worked with a more talented director (Paul Anderson is lousy director in my opinion, he should stick to his Resident Evil genres). But thanks to how they ruined it, I don't think we'll see a AVP film in a long while, a decent one anyway.

Godzilla vs KingKong worked not because it was a cross-over but because the story had appeal.

You can't just automatically say "cross-over" and expect the film to work.

@RatedRex

Sorry to say this, but you seem to be crapping when you say: "King Kong vs Godzilla" made $1.25 million dollars.  Considering inflation, that would be about $10 million in today's market.  Ten million in today's market would be considered a flop. "

No offence, but are you sure ur a marketing person or even marketing for a movie production studio in the first place? Or are you just inflating yourself to appear more credible in your argument? cos if u are then perhaps you did badly doing marketing for other companies and ended up working for yourself? 

As far as movie production budgets versus box office takings are concerned, in order for a movie to be considered a commercial success today, it would have to at least generate twice the amount of money spent on producing and marketing the movie. 

If you haven't realized, King Kong vs Godzilla was produced in Japan at a budget of 5 Million Yen and its box-office takings in Japan was 350 Million Yen, which is 70 times over the budget. It was then produced in an English version which was distributed by Universal at the cost of $200,000 in America, where it earned $1.25 million dollars (6.25 times over the budget). So since when is King Kong vs Godzilla a flop ? So please get your facts right Mr Marketing Guy. 

And as for a different take in terms of marketing the trailers to the Asian region, you do realize that American audiences and Asians have different tastes? While Pacific Rim generated slightly over $110 million in the States, Asians pretty much favoured the movie which pushed the box-office takings for Pacific Rim well past $400 million. This is an indication that Asians are indeed warming up to the idea of monsters battling each other despite being unfamiliar with the characters in Pacific Rim.

And when Legendary takes Godzilla (a household name in the league of monsters) and does a marketing push for the movie, you can be sure they are going to concentrate more resources to the region because Asia is going to be the key to ensuring a huge box-office success for Godzilla 2014. 

Never mind what you think whether its Godzilla vs Man or Godzilla vs any other monster that's going to make a difference in the box-office earnings. The Asians love such monster movies. Period. And that's the region that would make or break Godzilla, forget the States. 

@Ratedrex and @Destroyah-X

King Kong vs. Godzilla made more than $1.25 million. The $1.25 million number is the result for the movie's theater rentals, not gross.

@Zaffzilla

This is the second time you've flown off the rails and used offensive language because you can't handle someone's differing opinion. If you do it again the consequences will be unpleasant. I promise. Play nice or you won't be playing at all. Capiche?

@Destroyah-X

Boy o boy, I must have really hit some nerves.  I didn't mean to upset you and Zaffzilla.  All I was doing was giving you my opinion on why I didn't think that there would be any cross-over, or sequels any time soon.  But I could be wrong.  If the Transformer movies can make $800 million, then, in theory, KK v G could do the same, if not better.  The problem is: it would be hard to come up with a script for KK v G that wouldn't morph into camp.  Would the public be ok with a campy KK v G?  That a chance the studios may not want to take, especially since it would cost around $200 million to make (break even for a $200 million dollar movie is about $400 million due to various reason).  I will say this:  If Godzilla 2014 does kick-ass numbers, then the idea of a KK v G remake (or any kind of sequel) is definitely enhanced.