This maybe a little hard for some of you to understand, but the new and the original godzilla is NOT a mutated dinosaur

All true. Even though it's all been discussed at length elsewhere, but you did point that out in your defense.

I think the Godzillasaurus thing just caught on because it's so finite-- at least to the Heisei Godzilla. Some fans want every little detail spelled out for them and the Heisei movies do just that.

I also blame the Trendmasters trading cards from back in 1994, but maybe I'm the only one around here who remember those... :/

Well it's said Godzilla is a dinsaur, but the he also absorbed a huge amount of radiation, since we never see godzilla prior to his absorption of the radiation we can't say if he's mutated or not. He may not necessarily have been a Godzillasaurus, but chances are he's still changed from the original monster before being subjected to the radiation. Since the heisei shows a monster prior to the absorption most people associate it with that. 

So while I can't say for this new one I can say you could argue either way about his mutation since, as I said we never see him beforehand. 

@Durp004

Due to the vagueness of the original films theorizing and the idea that Yamane uses the dinosaur era as an example, I can see the assumption and argument made for Godzilla coming from some sort of dinosaur family. However, I don't recall him ever flat out saying he was a dinosaur, but specifically a, "cross between land and sea reptile" and that he wasn't necessarily mutated, but "awakened".

What shatters Yamane's world is that Godzilla survived being awakened. In conjunction with that the filmmakers designed Godzilla's skin in the original film to look "burned" or scarred from atomic fires.

Everything from there is just assumption. Maybe he was mutated. Maybe not. We don't really know for certain. But that's part of the joy of the original's origin. I tend to lean more torward Yamane though: Godzilla simply woke up and he absorbed the atomic energies rather than be mutated by them.

it also seems that gareth perfered the original's take on godzilla's origin, the big thing that ''in 1954 we awakened something'' is definatly similar to the originals take on his origin, which is still mostly a mystery. if you belive that godzilla is a muated dinosaur that's fine, but some fans have been bashing at non godzilla fans for either asking why does godzilla look like a dinosaur or if they call godzilla a mutant lizard

Well, either way, Godzilla is most certainly one of, if not THE, last of a species of ancient reptiles that were mutated and evolved with ample radiation to further bolster these mutations until it became naturally passed on through their own genetics. Access to a radiaoactive source adds to the natural radiation-augmented evolutionary process, only at an accelerated rate affecting the animal positively within its own lifespan.

Whatever creature Godzilla's species used to be was accustomed to both land and sea, with evolved gills to show for it, even though they'd likely not serve the original purpose of breathing underwater for necessity in the later generations of the species line due to their immense size and internal "reactor organ system" providing energy and other staple compounds needed as substitutes for direct intake from outside sources.

The more successful the individual creature, the more likely it is to grow into immense sizes and develop more powerful exotic abilities and adaptations, as seen with the beautifully powerful but possibly lone Godzilla. Sorta like the battle-scarred and very aged King Kong, but for giant monsters instead, with millions of years in mind.

True, just saying why I can understand how people are under the impression he is mutated. It's left in the air in the case of the original as to if absorbing the radiation changed him at all, the fact he got the radioactive breath which I can assume is from that, rather than having it to begin with is 1 mutation, but that's all speculation he may have had that from the beginning. 

As for him not being a dinosaur and being a cross between that and a marine reptile, true but essentially the only difference between the marine reptiles and dinosaurs is 1 lived in the ocean so saying he's a cross between the 2 is essentially saying a dinosaur that could live underwater, so it equates to pretty much that same category as dinosaur to me.

I love that my name is synonymous with 'aggressive'. Its not that I'm any more aggressive than anyone else on here, its just that the truth hurts. Fans treat their fandom like religion and like religion, there is a lot lost in translation-- by the time it hits the masses its been muddied to the point of absurdity and no one wants to hear their gospel picked apart by subjective or objective thinking.

A lot of fans act like the original film is this masterpiece they all watch every weekend, when in reality, most don't. Most fans probably haven't watched the original movie a handful of times-- and I don't blame them, its boring. Sorry, I said it, I don't see the same masterpiece that everyone else seems to idealize. 

Regardless, its that kind of unpopular opinion that makes people hate me-- I don't follow the hive-mind mentality that comes with being a Godzilla fan. I like what I like and I make no excuses for it-- and if I don't like something I'm more than willing to share my distaste for it in the same 'in your face opinion is fact' kind of way everyone else expresses themselves on the internet. I communicate no differently than half the brash people on here-- the only difference is; and I'm guessing here, is that I form sentances in a way that makes enough sense that it challenges people to think... which really seems to be the meanest thing you can do to someone on the internet... make them think. Either way, the time they spend trying to argue with me gives their weak arguments and points a much needed reflection, if anything I strengthen people's resolve. 

As for the Godzilla 54--

They never explicitly say Godzilla is a mutation in any of the showa films-- ever. They theorize he is a dinosaur-- that is it. Beyond that, most of the original film is more about a love triangle and the Godzilla aftermath, not explaining what godzilla is. 

@Akagi

Perhaps I overlooked a phrase on here, but who and where did anyone say your name was synonymous with aggression? I'm not sure where this whole defensive rant came from or why it was necessary.

no akagi i was saying I was aggresive towards you in an old topic which would take me a while to find becuase it is too buried underneth the new topics, in other words i'm apoligizing for being aggresive towards you on that topic about 'godzilla being decended from a crocodile''

Hive mind? I don't know what forum you visit but I see people disagreeing over things much more than people agreeing on this forum. I think it'd be fair to say every person in this thread has probably disagreed with 1 another at 1 point at least.

He is a dinosaur in godzilla vs king ghidorah they go back into to past before he was mutated watch the movie it will explain everything!

He is a dinosaur in godzilla vs king ghidorah they go back into to past before he was mutated watch the movie it will explain everything!

@Chriszilla45,

That only applies to the Heisei Godzilla. The original Godzilla did not have the same origin.

In the Heisei series, he is a mutated dinosaur but, I later figured out that in the 1954 version and the 2014 version was a creature awakened by nuclear bombs.

i don't need to watch GvsKK 91, i've already seen the movie about 4-10 times and i've watched the original about 5 times so i know the heisei's origins and the originals origin

i did a whole other topic about this but not similar to what godzillafan1995 is saying i also suggested that both the original gojira like this new godzilla is are both already exsisting creatures ;)

i did a whole other topic about this but not similar to what godzillafan1995 is saying i also suggested that both the original gojira like this new godzilla is are both already exsisting creatures ;)

Heisei is a mutated dinosaur and the mutant dinosaur story only applies to Heisei.

I've always thought of Godzilla as a mutated saurian lifeform. Yamane doesn't explicitly say that in the '54 original, but it's strongly implied. I also don't think the 'mutated by nuclear radiation' angle can be discounted, either, for a couple of reasons. One, no dinosaur, or prehistoric lifeform, could ever be that large naturally; it couldn't survive. Secondly, I don't think it's physically possible for any living organism to absorb large amounts of nuclear radiation without some form of alteration/mutation to it's physiology. Godzilla has atomic breath, FGS, how can that possibly be a natural ability?

@ AKAGI: I don't see how you could possibly see the '54 original as "boring", it IS a masterpiece. It's also the one Godzilla movie that the general public IS familiar with; it's been on television countless times, everyone's seen it. Gareth Edwards is accessing the tone and feel of the original for this new film, as has been noted before. To each his/her/it's own and all of that, but I hope you're not disappointed in this movie.

Ok i know what to call it Irradiated what ever it is ok perfect i dont think so but tell me what you think and The earth is radiated but what can we call him tho.