Should we count the 1998 Godzilla movie

Answer: yes or no and why.

Sort of. As horrifying as it is, the 1998 movie is part of Godzilla's history. The movie itself is decent (to a degree), but it would be better if it was renamed Zilla. This movie can be used as an example of how NOT to make a Godzilla movie in america. Still, it is part of Godzilla's past, it sucks, but it deserves some respect. Not a lot of respect (it's still a piece of sh*t), but just a little.

Yes it's a new version of Godzilla but because it strays too far it's hated. People are always quick to criticise is special effects and bad characters, but will look past all of these in most other versions if toho's name is behind it. Were the characters bad? To a degree yes, none were particularly likeably, but there's a vast amount of toho Godzilla movies I could say the same for. Can any1 honestly say the characters from Godzilla vs Megaguirus were well done? Of course not. How about the stars of Godzilla vs Hedorah? No? Yeah the list could go on really, but bad characters and questionable story is a part of so many Godzilla movies it's unfair to single the american one out. Sure it would have been nice to see the invulnerability, or atomic breath, but all of that was corrected in the series that spawned after the movie.

Yes, it should be counted. It is a Tohoverse (don't know if that's the right term) movie. I view it much like a do the stand-alone Rodan movie, or any other Toho movie that does not have Godzilla in it. It's a spin-off. Zilla is a Toho monster, and belongs with the rest of them. There were Godzilla movies that were worse than 98', and there are ones that are better. However, it needs to be concidered.

It's part of the history of Godzilla/Gojira, so it should be remembered. I consider it as a prototype for an American Godzilla. Good looks and CGI, story was enjoyable, but the military was a bit dumb and the creature not Godzilla. Thanks to the lessons learned from it, we have a new American Godzilla that captures the origings of Gojira yet have a new and cool look (some seem to be inspired from the 1998 Godzilla).

I'm sorry but what a dumb question.  It wasn't really that bad a movie, and if u really look at most other Godzilla films, THEY'RE HORRIBLE.  They just made him look cool here and there.  These days every 14 yr old kid with internet access is apparently, a great connoisseur of films, even though they tend to join in casting stones.  Godzilla '98's design was meant to be a big departure from the baggy fat suits we'd seen, and it was still an improvement in my opinion.  Yes the story could've been better, but i'll still count it.  That doesn't mean that this new one won't stomp it into the ground.  Think if this version had been done back then: it would be horrible.  If u ask me, everything worked out just fine.

No. I dont care if its a part of Godzilla history, its history im going to try to forget. 

I talked about this is another thread, so I'll try not to repeat myself too much here, but basically YES it should be counted. 

I LIKED it as a Godzilla movie. Yes, it disappointed me in some areas, but it is still in my top 1/3 of Godzilla films.

Plot/Characters/Special Effects are all on par with what we've come to expect from the franchise, and even surpass it in several ways. 

The departures from the character (durability, lack of atomic breath) while unfortunate, still fall within the realm of 'creative license' when re-interpreting Godzilla. Do I necessarily LIKE those changes to the character? No, of course not. But it's not severe enough to warrant cutting the film/character depiction from the franchise.

the 98 movie is cannon in the Godzilla universe, but it is not a Godzilla movie because the monster isnt Godzilla.

No ammount of insulting original Godzilla or 98 Godzilla will change the fact that it is part of the franchise-- just because someone doesn't like something... doesn't make it any less acknowledgable. 

I do consider it apart of the franchise but then again, I don't. The 1998 film was a re-imagining. Not a sequal, not a piece to the story, no ties really. Just a re-imagining of the monster Toho created.

Nobody ever listens to what I say.

even in the film it was obvious it wasn't, plot wise it was named Godzilla from the scared fisherman when you really cant have another name for a giant reptilian sea attack. They only could name it what was closest to. 

If you find a large reptilian creature your first impression is something similar (dinosaur or something similar)

yeah it may not be a dinosaur but that's what you'd think in the beginning.

so a scared Japenese fisherman clearly would think a large reptilian swimmer would be dubbed its closest relation.

plus it was mentioned in GMK so it is a valid godzilla film. I enjoy and still watch the movie. I know these points as my facts which allow me to watch and enjoy it.

zillahater I know its in your character and you joke about it, but honestly the movie was not terribad

@AUDIOBRANIC.

Fuck u for one and dumb ass response. You fucking dick you look at Godzilla as a tipicall ass thats doesn't know shit and always hate on shit that you don't know.

@Mecha G, there is no need to attack someone like that. This will be the only warning. This is a public forum.

@Jordan Swickard

i appagized for that but if he thinks he would get away with calling me a dumb ass saying, u have another thing coming. I've been a G-fan for a long time, have all 29 movies, collect figures, and even video game too. So yeah I pissed off that my first discusion end up like this

Actually all he said was what a dumb question, he did not call you out like that, if I missed it please correct me. Welcome to the forums Mecha G. One thing to keep in mind is people like to voice their opinions here and debate, so don't explode when some people disagree with you. I'm a major G fan myself and so is pretty much everyone on this forum. Keep the discussions clean and everything will be good :)

No he said that I was a 14yr actally I'm 13, who has internet and thinks I'm a know it all "movie consular"

No he said that I was a 14yr actally I'm 13, who has internet and thinks I'm a know it all "movie consular"

Yes, it should be counted. Zilla appeared in final wars, thus making it canon. Also I like to think of zilla as a different kaiju opposed to gojira, because it doesn't capture the main look of godzilla. Maybe I am a bit nostalgic toward the movie, because I grew up watching it. All in all it's an entertaining popcorn movie. The original japanese movies however rule(for now).

Well my request stands, keep it clean.