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Which Alligator the new Godzilla came from.

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Gojira2K

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Is it just me or does this look like the new Godzilla?

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Maybe Godzilla came from the Chinese Alligator. What do you think?

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we can't just think straight away that he is a mutant crocodile/alligator, his scales/skin are probably is based on the crocodilia family but thats because that species has the toughest armour that nauture has shown. he still looks more dinosaur than crocodile

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I'm just saying if he was a mutant alligator I think this were he came from because it's body, including the belly, is completely armored just like Godzilla would have to be to withstand are weaponry. All i'm saying is that if he did come an Alligator this is probaply the one he came from.

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This Godzilla is going to be realistic and stick to the source material, meaning the behemoth you see in the movie is what he always was. He isn't mutating from anything, that would be unrealistic. Besides, he's most likely a dinosaur because of how he is structured. They took the strongest properties of animals, and meshed them together on Godzilla. 

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well 'if' (not saying he is) decended from a crocodila then i would say one from asia or maybe an extinct species.

also that chinese aligator does have 'some' similarities

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I agree with you True-Batman that he will probably be a dinosaur and yeah him mutating is unrealistic. I only made this because the Chinese Alligator looked like him to me and I thought this might be were he came if he was mutated.

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ok muatating may seem unrealistic but so is the hulk and NO one compalins about that being unrealistic, no one is really going to care if he is a muation or not, the muation thing is the only way to get a explaination on his size as no living creature can reach that size natually in this life time.

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wasnt godzilla always a mutant? i thought it was explained that he was a mutated godzillasaur

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Mutating in the way people normally think is usually quite unrealistic. There is another way though........I won't get into that one for the time being. The discussion at hand is Godzilla's crocodilian features. Really, that's kind of a more general evolutionary trait that lots of prehistoric reptilians going on crocodilians/dinosaurs had. If anything, either a crocodilian-esque dinosaur or early ancestral archosaur is the best candidate for origin species for Godzilla. As long as some form of radiation of the nuclear variety existed in some form to create it in the past from whatever period it came from.

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really if this new godzilla is not a mutant then therefore he shouldn't have the atomic breath, but we know he has so he must be a mutant. i don't think the mutation part will be the realistic part of godzilla, if there is anything this godzilla will be realistic will be its skin texture, i dont even think we will ever know his true origins in this movie, it will probably be scientific theories in the movie.

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I don't think he'll be mutated at all. I think he'll be an ancient creature. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.
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then how do they fit the nuclear radiation theme to the movie. and yess nuclear power and radiation is in this movie (fukishima allegory expected)

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Oh, he's a mutant alright. He just didn't start off quite well with those first few mutations due to radiation that naturally occurred. He may have even "died" a few times before those nuclear anomalies got it right. Whatever features from his previous existance worked better were readapted to fit in a larger and much stronger framework that could accomodate such enormous sizes that nature can't produce through mere normal evolution (as far as we know anyway).

Once such feature is something likely similar to the bony scutes across a crocodilian's skin, which several archosaurs and dinosaurs also had in some form. Others are a product of the reworking of the genetic code to use pure nuclear energy as a source of sustenance, weaponry, and the likes. Fukushima was a terribly bad nuclear disaster, rivalling the bombing of Hiroshima in an environmental sense, and also likely garnered a similar "dinner time" response from Godzilla back in 1954, similar to how many animals can tell when the season of bountiful resources to feast approaches.

And that is how Godzilla, his nuclear-created body, Fukushima, and the movie could possibly all factor in.

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Gman123; I want to know how you know for a fact he's a mutant?

 

Everything Edwards has said sounds like Godzilla is nature's 'answer', meaning that he's probably existed long before our medling. 

If you go by the possibly fake leaked script, hes not mutated, only 'changed' by the bomb. 

If you go by the earliest film descriptions on the internet-- they describe him as an ancient monster that awakens.

Not hinting at all that he is a mutation.

I could be wrong-- but thus far, I haven't seen one hint that he was a mutation. If I am incorrect, I'll be the first to admit it, but so far... nothing suggests this besides wild fan speculation and I'm going to trust Edwards' own words more than fan theories. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.
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i always thought that he was awakened and mutated. i think what they mean by "natures answer" is basically that we messed nuclear technology without thinking of what could happen if we used said technology and it backfires and creates something that in a way is natures wrath

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Dinoboy22

 

That is all fine and good, but until I know for a fact that he is a mutation, I'm going to go with the ancient creature assumption. He was only an ancient creature in the original film that was awakened by the bomb (and scarred) but not mutated. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.
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I think if Godzilla was a alligator he would have a longer jaw.

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You know what they say about the word "assumption" right AKAGI? Don't assume, unless you want people pulling out that "makes an ass of you and me" bit on you.

Anyway, as far as the whole alligator/crocodile thing, I doubt it.

Godzilla has never been confirmed to have officially been anything. Toho was deliberately vague on his exact origins and conception. The moment they say "he IS this" they demystify Godzilla. If that happens, he loses not only some of his mystique and awe, but it also opens the floodgates for people to say "that's just dumb."

If Legendary is smart, they will do the same thing Toho did and simply say "Here he is! You humans messed up and woke him up and now he's going to kick your ass!"

The less we know about Godzilla's exact origins, the better. Trying to identify what he is by comparing him to modern day animals is not going to get you anywhere, so my advice would be to leave it alone and just accept the fact that nobody knows exactly what he is or what he's supposed to be. The original creators and art directors of the original Gojira film were inspired by T-Res, Stegosaurus, Iguanadon, and the image of a modern alligator to blen their features and create something of a chimera, but even then that doesn't mean that he IS any of those creatures.

So yeah, just leave it be. Godzilla is simply Godzilla, and that's all we need to know.

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You know what they say about the word "assumption" right AKAGI? Don't assume, unless you want people pulling out that "makes an ass of you and me" bit on you.

Anyway, as far as the whole alligator/crocodile thing, I doubt it.

Godzilla has never been confirmed to have officially been anything. Toho was deliberately vague on his exact origins and conception. The moment they say "he IS this" they demystify Godzilla. If that happens, he loses not only some of his mystique and awe, but it also opens the floodgates for people to say "that's just dumb."

If Legendary is smart, they will do the same thing Toho did and simply say "Here he is! You humans messed up and woke him up and now he's going to kick your ass!"

The less we know about Godzilla's exact origins, the better. Trying to identify what he is by comparing him to modern day animals is not going to get you anywhere, so my advice would be to leave it alone and just accept the fact that nobody knows exactly what he is or what he's supposed to be. The original creators and art directors of the original Gojira film were inspired by T-Res, Stegosaurus, Iguanadon, and the image of a modern alligator to blen their features and create something of a chimera, but even then that doesn't mean that he IS any of those creatures.

So yeah, just leave it be. Godzilla is simply Godzilla, and that's all we need to know.

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Oh, Godzilla is definitely a mutant, but not in a traditional sense. And he's also definitely a product of nature, but also not in a traditional sense. There is such a thing as naturally occurring nuclar radiation, but it's in smaller concentrations and takes longer to mutate a creature. Of course, the creature has to have died from it first, be completely preserved by it, revived by it, have its entire genetic and structural build be reorganized for increased adaptability and self-induced evolution by it, and then finally be allowed to grow and become a Kaiju. Godzilla, obviously, is the prime example of a creature that cannot occur through normal evolution, but was also completely and naturally made from the forces of nature itself to create a force of nature in a living form. And human-produced nuclear radiation is much more concentrated and wholesome to absorb than that natural stuff, and so induces the creature's evolution further, thus resulting in the modern Legendary Godzilla.

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This is kind of irrelevant even though it's just assuming in case he was, but in the end he is not related to any crock.

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