
Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 4:46 AMThis will be my last discussion on this topic. I know that it has been done many times before, even by myself. Yet, I had never got the chance to really explain my side and thoughts regarding the realism to Godzilla in this new film. Forgive my hard-to-understand explaining, I tend to overthink as I write.
When discussing "Realsim" with this new Godzilla movie, It was never actually about Godzilla himself. Godzilla in this film will be the most "Realistic" adaptation due to him being portrayed more animalistic and as a real life creature. However, a 400ft or so lizard-creauture whom can focus radiation into a weaponary beam has no realsim at all. Atomic bombs do not just turn any living thing it touches into radiated behemoths. A creature that size couldn't even sustain itself(So we think).
When talking realism with this movie, I never meant Godzilla. There is no science behind such a thing, and forcing scientific reasoning to make Godzilla appear realistic is impractical. Its a monster, simple as that. When talking realsim, I mean the STORY, the REACTION, and most importantly, the AFTERMATH of something like this existing. The monster itself can never be real, and to focus on the monster being so, would take away from Godzilla as a whole. Godzilla is a METAPHOR for the atomic bomb. An atomic bomb is real, a creature like it? Never. But its the symbolism behind it that can make such a fantasy, a reality. The symbolism that shows how us as humans tampering with nature can end in the destruction amongst ourselves.
The realsim behind Godzilla lays in the horror, the sorrow of losing lives, the recieving of devastation, the reaction to seeing such a thing(Godzilla/Atomic bomb), the prolonged pain, the aftermath, and the hope to get through. Things that we as humans can relate to. Think about the bombing of Japan. That is what those people faced. Its the elements that SURROUND Godzilla that create the realsim, not the monster..But that is just my opinion.

G2K
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 10:53 AMNothing is impossible, after all you never know if its possible for a animal like it to be this huge. It may have to consume HUMONGOUS amoutns of radiation, but we dont know if its true or not. Not saying it is, but at the same not saying its not. Its probably able to sustain itself, its legs are strong enough as they are huge too. The only thing that aint real is the atomic breath. But evem to that, who knows?

Durp004
MemberBaragonJan-03-2014 11:16 AMWhere does it say what will and will not be portrayed as realistic? True the movie might focus more on the realistic side of the after effects and survivors of the attacks, but you can't have a serious realistic movie, and then have a monster totally in the realm of fantasy. They'll have to add realism to Godzilla, Edwards even said that concerning his atomic breath.

TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJan-03-2014 11:17 AMWell, we can debate the realism of the creature(s) any other day (BTW he is most certainly possible!), but you're right in that we need to see a realistic reaction and aftermath if such a thing were to happen in real life. "Some people cried. Most people were silent." It would be interesting to see Gareth's take on humanity staring at the very face of their own destruction (pun somewhat intended).

GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 11:29 AM@AKIO123, my thoughts exactly
king of the monsters

Duratok
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 12:16 PM@AKIO123,
This is possibly the most well thought out and intelligent post I've come across since I joined, and I agree on all points.
Prepare to have it go completely over people's heads.

GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 12:38 PMi know the feeling, ive said so many things like this and it never does stick. of course in the end a lot of it will probably be wrong, AkIOs post however looks like like its going to be spot on.
king of the monsters

Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 12:58 PMAs I said, I am not good at explaing my inner thoughts lol Im sorry if I had caused confusion. This post was my personal opinions of the realism behind Godzilla. I don't know what will be realistic in this movie or not, all I know is that it will be taken, "Seriously". But I didnt mean for this post to state what the movie WILL have..Just things that I thought made Godzilla realistic in the first place
@DURATOK and GODZILLA HIMSELF, I was hoping someone could jump into my head and understand where I was coming from :) Glad you did.

doggiezilla
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 1:30 PMi think akio123 that this movie will have realism and fantasy. you got a good point there.

Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 1:33 PM@DOGGIEZILLA, I hope that Godzilla and the monsters will still hold the fantasy, while everything around them holds the realism. I just never felt you could make creatures like this realistic no matter how much science is thrown into it, but that was never the point, you know? It is all within the human aspect.

Kyero
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 6:35 PM@G2K - Actually, a creature that size IS impossible. If you don't believe me, go get a degree in physics and you should begin to understand why. If you don't have the time or money, here's a brief breakdown: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/g_saga/kaijubiologyarticle.html
This little link will tell you exactly why a creature such as Godzilla could not exist. There is no such thing as "nothing is impossible." Can human beings fly on their own power? No. It's impossible. Why? Many reasons why including, but most certainly not limited to: were not aerodynamic, our bodies cannot produce lift, our bodies and seletons are too dense, we have no source of energy to propel ourselves into the air and sustain it.
"Nothing is impossible" is an extreme case of ignorance on your part G2K. Plenty of things are impossile. "Nothing is impossible" is just a phrase used to try and support or mentally empower individuals who are struggling to achieve a goal which they THINK is impossible though it is well within their grasp. That phrase has no truth to it when it comes to creatures like Godizlla existing.
As for the actual topic at hand, yes, the realism that this movie will portray will have to be of the reaction, response, and aftermath of the monster known as Godzilla. As I said, and as are the reasons for it explained in the link I provided our friend G2K, Godzilla could NEVER exist. However, the reality of what Godzilla represents very well does exist in our daily lives and still lingers on to this day. Even now the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945 are still fresh in the minds and hearts of all who live in Japan and have to live with the fallout which is still there today. Godzilla represents many things, all of which are realities we deal with today.

TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusJan-03-2014 6:46 PMKyero, that article also outlines how it MAY be possible, though not by regular evolution, that's for sure. Still a very much natural phenomenon in the article's sense, though with extremely unlikely probabilities that happen only once every few million times over several thousands or millions of years. And it's just a theory which I like and also discovered on my own back in the days of Pacific Rim's hype. But the fact remains that Godzilla is the personification of the destructiveness humans imposed on themselves when they decided to create not only the atomic bomb, but also pollute the world wiht our filth and population to such a degree that we're slowly pushing out every other species.

Akio123
MemberMothra LarvaeJan-03-2014 6:47 PM@KYERO, good points, i learned off my own post lol But its nice to see people who share opinions or can agree with me