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I personally really like this iteration of the character.

It fits with the whole different directions that the Toho reboots have been taking with the franchise. Plus, it looks exactly as alien as an alien war robot made of Applied Phlebtonium would look like.

It does sound wonderful. I would love to see that.

^sure! why not? Just something new other than the skull crawlers. The Skull Crawlers had its turn now make way for even bigger monsters.

I know right. I am so excited!!!!!! Btw, I mentioned it too a few comments back.

I am wondering if they are going to go back to their older style of suitmation or if they are going to do the same style as shin Godzilla. Anyway, I am so excited what this could bring to the table and what monsters could make a comeback. Personally, I want to see hedorah make a comeback in this series.

You mean like a fight between either Kong (or Godzilla) and an original dinosaur kaiju, similar to a T-Rex, V-Rex, or Gorosaurus?

But you know what's the most surprising thing? That nobody (except probably me and the famous Youtuber, Omni Viewer) knows about or has made a top news story about Toho's plan to make another shared universe. Something that hasn't been done since the Showa Era. It's that big, and yet, no-one is focusing on that here.

Am I right?

I would not be against it.

But the Big One is killed, and Kong killed the rest. There is nothing confirmed that there are more Skull Crawlers on the Island. As far as we know they are extinct.

But it wouldn't be hard to write that in there, to show off Godzilla or Kongs new strength and size against them.

However I think it would be more interesting to show a new monster on the island for them to fight. We already have scene the Skull Crawlers at their "biggest", it wouldn't be a big scene if Kong or Godzilla just simply stomped them out with their size against the Skull Crawlers. Give us something new.

@MinecraftDinoKaiju, No. Not anymore. Toho cant make anymore LIVE ACTION movies until 2021. This is Legendary's stipulation. But Toho found a loophole and made the Anime Godzilla movies. With Shin,(as far as I know) Legendary didn't have anything that forbade Toho with making another Godzilla movie. Plus making the Monsterverse a "thing" wasn't in the perceived future at that time. So Toho could do what they wanted.

But after the huge success with Shin, Legendary put a stop to that.

I believe one of the reasons why Shin didn't have much of a huge release in the US is because of Toho's uncertainty of success in the states and countries abroad. But when Shin released in the U.S. it made #20 at the box office and it was only in theaters for 2 weeks in very selected theaters! Toho realized its potential, and Legendary put a stop to it. That's why we wont be getting live action Godzilla movies from Toho anytime soon.

Honestly if Toho keeps going with the quality and direction of Godzilla movies like Shin, I would rather Monsterverse end in order to get movies like that again. I find Shin is a far superior film than G14.

But we have not seen the next 2 films yet so I may be putting my foot in my own mouth if they turn out to be amazing.

Plus it wouldn't work out for Toho in getting Godzilla movies that they make into theaters worldwide like they used to many years ago thanks to Legendary's stipulations. So they both really cant make movies like what happened between 2014 and 2016 now. So in order for one to keep going with ones movie releases featuring Godzilla, one must give up rights. We can see Toho found the loophole by making the Monster Planet trilogy keeping the iron warmed up until we get more Godzilla movies in 2019 and 2020. Then the iron is hot and they will probably want to do what they know makes them more money and control. Take back Godzilla and make their own films again. Its the smart thing to do money wise.

"I can see why Legendary doesn't want Toho to do that since it might confuse audiences about 2 different Godzilla series playing in theaters around the same time."

Isn't that what's going on right now?

Ok, fine. I meant that Titanosaurus' roar is annoying.

And I do agree that 70's Mechagodzilla is the best. I just hope that they give this Mechagodzilla some weapon as an homage to the 70's one, maybe even disguising it as another Godzilla. Something similar to this:

Who agrees with me?

You know, I'm reading the previous comments and I'm thinking, "Wait. Technically, the Skullcrawlers aren't extinct. So what if we get a scene where Godzilla, on Skull Island, fights and defeats multiple giant Skullcrawlers, ones that are similar in size to 'the Big One'?". Who else thinks this should happen on the big screen?

To be fair, Toho’s Godzilla movies are mostly just played in Japanese theaters whilst the monsterverse is released around the world. so I don't think Legendary would have much of a competition. If the movies are spaced out enough from each other so they don’t overshadow each other, I think it could work out for the both of them.

^No I didn't hear about Toho's plan to do a shared universe. That's very interesting. I would love to learn more about any details about it.

I would just hope that Legendary lifts those restrictions on Toho to limit making more live action Godzilla movies if Monsterverse continues after 2020. I can see why Legendary doesn't want Toho to do that since it might confuse audiences about 2 different Godzilla series playing in theaters around the same time. But I don't think anybody would mind honestly. Who wouldn't want more Godzilla movies!?

According to Monarchs timeline, a team does go back to see what has happened to Kong. Maybe they will use some kind of flashback sequence? Im sure there will be scenes with Kong on Skull Island. I hope they do travel away from it though. I hope the New York battle plot does really take place in the final treatment. This movie needs a big city battle sequence for the final showdown.

^agreed

nothing can beat the 70's Mechagodzilla. But this is an interesting design. My opinion will wait until I see it in action, but its cool so far.

Actually, I think that Toho and legendary might have a plan with their movies. If you look at the current releases for the Godzilla movies, they don’t BOTH release a movie in the same year. Legendary and Toho are sorts of taking turns with their movies. Godzilla 2014 first and until 2019 Toho is making movies to fill in that space. I am thinking that they will continue this as time goes on. That is just a theory though.

Btw, have you heard that Toho might do a shared universe themselves? They are basically doing the Showa series again. Unfortunately, shin Godzilla won't be part of it.

"Is that also ignoring the other monster in it, Titanosaurus (aka the worst noise ever heard in the Godzilla franchise)?"

Titanosaurus is awesome and Terror of MechaGodzilla is one of the best in the series.

Unless something big with Kong happens in G:KOTM I think they at least have to show Kong on Skull Island for some part of GvK

My speculation is that after King of the Monsters, Godzilla along with possibly Rodan and Mothra go to Skull Island to live peacefully and avoid mankind and wouldn't ya know it, there's a big gorilla that doesn't take kindly to strangers. 

At first I wasn't sure about the design, but now I'm kinda digging it. I mean, it's not my favorite look for MechaGodzilla but it still looks pretty cool. I'm liking the alien skeletal design. I like this look more than the Ready Player One design honestly. I didn't like the arms on that one. They just didn't look right to me. In any case, I can't wait for this movie.

I wouldn't be surprised if Godzilla vs Kong took us to Skull Island, even if it was only for a few scenes. It is Kong's domain, his kingdom. They gotta get him off the island somehow. We can't just have him showing up out of nowhere.

We need a bit of Skull island in the film to start, man can't force this Kong to do anything. He is a Greek God at this point. Godzilla may invade or Kong may see him swimming and get curious. Either way this movie ends in New York city with the empire state building being destroyed and Godzilla reigns supreme in the end. They better not cheap out on the destruction in these next films. Godzilla was only seen to manually destroy two buildings in 14 and both were on accident. Godzilla wins and we see cities actually get busted instead of a million ways to avoid the work. We got the tech and the time here, I hope they use it well. 

 "Terror of M.G. is one of my favorites!"

Is that also ignoring the other monster in it, Titanosaurus (aka the worst noise ever heard in the Godzilla franchise)?

I'm not a fan of this new Mecha-Godzilla design. It head looks more like an ant than a Lizard. Worst M.G. ever. I hope Godzilla smashes it up like 1975. Haven't seen Ready Player One yet but it's M.G looks sweet! Kiryu looked the best but I don't buy the oxygen destroyer could harm Godzilla so not a fan of its origins and no way it could win against the invincible millennium Godzilla. M.G.2 was awesome but harpoons would shatter on Godzilla's scales and electricity should only power him up. Rodan's death really pissed me off. The 70's is where it's at. The original M.G. was Beautiful and effective. Not a fan of the seeing Godzilla's blood, Toho biffed that but over all big G crushed that tin can well. Terror of M.G. is one of my favorites!

That's of course assuming mankind somehow is somehow deliberately responsible for taking him off the island. I don't want to assume anything as truth.

But if you think about it, wouldn't you agree it would now be impossible to carry Kong with modern aircraft through a storm that almost took down helicopters in the 70's?

It's only speculation. This is not confirmation that it takes place on Skull Island.

Nevermind.

Anyway, I feel like it's the only logical thing to do since honestly, how is modern technology going to go through the storm, capture Kong, carry him away, and take him to a city without getting damaged? It just seems ridiculous. So I'm actually glad it takes place on Skull Island.

MinecraftDinoKaiju,
The grand majority of these came right after the release. Seem pretty positive to me: Kong: Skull Island - Rotten Tomatoes

I meant the ones that came immediately after it's release. You know, the ones that came out during what you call the "honeymoon stage".

MinecraftDinoKaiju,
What do you mean? Most of the reviews for Kong: Skull Island were positive--In fact it practically got the same average scores from critics as Godzilla '14. Additionally, it made more money worldwide than Godzilla '14.

Godzilla made $529 million, Skull Island made $566.6 million.

"...2017's successful Kong: Skull Island..."

And yet, the funny thing is, if anyone seeing this looks online for the reviews on the quoted movie, most of them will say otherwise. Lol.

Who agrees with me?

And this is the same thing I was fearing for Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom when everyone started talking about what the Indoraptor design looked like, both before and when the trailers came out.

If anything, I might be one of the last few people on Earth at all that wants no spoilers about something until it comes out. Unless anyone else agrees?

I dig how "alien" this design is, especially since it's built by an alien race, but not as an exact doppelganger of Godzilla. I appreciate that the filmmakers are going in a different direction. My only concern is how it functionally works in the story:

ex: How do all the dorsal plates and all the pointy bits work for this? Are they aesthetic or functional? 

I'm also curious how it'll animate.

They could if they had the power in the first place to do that.

Shin Gojira made Toho lots of money. Toho can not make another live action Godzilla movie until  after 2020 due to Legendary's conditions after 2016. So if Toho wanted out despite the success of Godzilla's influence on Monsterverse, they can pull out of the monsterverse and start making Japanese Godzilla movies again.

Legendary doesn't want Toho to make another movie like Shin Gojira while they are making Godzilla movies here in the states. So both are in a tug-of-war battle with the same character right now. Toho wants to make more live action Godzilla movies right now while the iron is hot after the huge success in 2016. Waiting for Monsterverse to be over might take years and take away Toho's chance to make more money for themselves.

The 98 movie had little to do with Godzilla's resurgence in the millennium. Toho was going to make more Godzilla movies anyway, Toho had plans to make more Godzilla movies before the 98 movie was going to be made. The only thing different was to make them sooner so that everyone could forget about the 98 disaster. Im sorry but Zilla left a bad taste in the mouths of fans everywhere. Im glad some enjoyed the movie, but honestly the film ripped off of every trope the 90's offered and vomited it all up.

@riggzamortis86

I still don't get the argument with the rights expiring. of course, the rights expire after 2020. these first 4 movies of the monsterverse are very experimental and there is nothing confirmed YET for the future. so of course, legendary wouldn't buy the rights for Godzilla for longer than 2020 or they would waste money by adding years. if these 4 movies are successful (2 out of 4 already are), they could just extend the time until the rights expire. I do get the confusing with it though.

^Well "should" and "can" are the big "if's" in the Monsterverse. Kamoebas is a relatively unpopular Kaiju, and in America pretty much an unknown kaiju.  "If" Legendary wanted a to use Kamoebas like that in the Monsterverse they would need to buy the rights to it first. 

Now for the use of a licensed character to be shown for a brief scene would not be cost effective. Legendary can design a new monster for such a scene and not cost anything to them instead.

Now, Should Legendary buy the rights to a unpopular monster to almost recreate a scene from an unpopular Godzilla movie from the early millennium? My answer is... No. But as much as I would love to see Kamoebas in a scene in the Monsterverse, the likely hood is slim.

@ KaijuWorld, who knows. So far the rights to Godzilla expire after 2020. Im not sure if that also includes Rodan, Mothra and Ghidorah. But if it does it looks like these next 2 films might be all we get of a Monsterverse featuring Godzilla at least. The universe still would have star power with Kong in it, that's where I think other properties like Gamera, Gorgo and others would have a place in the Monsterverse perhaps. But I think it would dwindle out without Godzilla and friends around.

If only time travel was possible to prevent it. But then we wouldn't get the Millennium Era, at least as we know it. Right?