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So a modern showa era. I'm ok with that. 

I hope that's not entirely the case. Changing up the design is part of what kept the Showa Godzilla series and Heisei Gamera trilogy feeling so fresh.

If we can anticipate for 2 years, the delay shouldn't be any different.

They probably might do some CG/Suit tweaks.

Thanks so much, Warner Bros. Now we need to try to not only reset the clock, but also try to hold our anticipation longer.

So if they are doing a cinematic universe, it’s unlikely that they’ll constantly change monster designs film-to-film, y’know, as they do lol. Very interesting to think we’ll get years of just ONE Godzilla design. Sure be a shame if it was awful..

^the answer you seek lies at the top of this page.

Ahh.... forget it I'll just quote Chris:

"According to a fresh report from Deadline, Godzilla 2 will now release on May 31st, 2019 instead of its original March 22nd release date."

So 70 days it will be that GKOTM will be delayed. 70 LONG GRUELING DAYS! Longer than when the great flood took over the Earth and Moses stayed on the Arc(not catholic by the way, just giving extreme examples of how long this wait is), longer than Lent. Longer than it takes to make a barrel of wine. Longer than well... you get the idea.

How much is this thing gonna get delayed?

I wouldn't be heartbroken if the Monsterverse ends. We got three solid movies that more rebooted the Toho series than anything else. The Monsterverse Godzilla is an amazing design and will go down as one of my favorites, regardless of how the next two films turn out. 

I just hope we got some sort of trailer or design reveals at comic-con. Legendary and co. had to have had marketing set up for the March release and you'd think they'd to start the hype train as soon as possible to get people talking about it. Beat Aladdin and Avengers to the punch. 

The Jurassic Bootleg,
Well, more the franchise of whatever movie, yes--Though there are anomalies. I wouldn't say the movie itself is completely dead since they still have to market it on home video.

On the other hand we may be making a mountain out of a molehill. Personally, I think the Monsterverse is over after Godzilla vs. Kong and we're guaranteed that movie regardless what Godzilla: King of the Monsters does. In the end, we may get the complete Monsterverse regardless what Godzilla 2 does.

If a movie doesn't make enough money then its dead it's simply dead. That is simply how the movie industry works.......If I'm correct.

I've been seeing a lot of posts on reddit, it seems like people on there have forgotten that Aladdin is a thing. No one seems concerned that one of Disney's biggest releases is coming out a week before Godzilla. Avengers is going to be one of the biggest movies ever and Aladdin will probably pull in similar numbers to other Disney live-action films. 

Godzilla could very well suffer the same fate Pacific Rim suffered here. Still, I just want the damn movie to come out. I don't even care if it's straight to DVD at this point. Hopefully this wait will pay off. 

"You cant S#!* on a movie that already was crap to begin with."

The Jurassic Bootleg,
"Well hopefully Avengers 4 or whatever it's in Disney's pockets doesn't soak up money from GKOM, money is what makes movies."

Agreed. We've seen this before with Iron Man 3 in 2013. The movie made so much stinkin' money over the month of its release, that other movies that month were suffering for it. Particularly Star Trek Into Darkness.

The Hood,
"I'm pretty sure that people would rather see KOTM than another terrible live-action remake in Aladdin and a monstrosity of Minecraft."

I've seen fans underestimate Aladdin a great deal so far, picking out any little issue they have with it to claim it's not a threat. It is naive to believe, Aladdin will not be a juggernaut despite any issues it may or may not have. Case and point:

Cinderella - $543.5 million worldwide
Maleficent - $758.5 million worldwide
The Jungle Book - $966.5 million worldwide
Alice in Wonderland - $1.02 billion worldwide
Beauty and the Beast - $1.26 billion worldwide

Godzilla '14 didn't even make as much as Cinderella and the rest blow both Monsterverse movies out of the water. Aladdin is a flagship franchise for Disney and Disney will have no problem playing on people's nostalgia to get butts in the seats regardless of the quality. It worked for Beauty and the Beast.

Maleficent and Alice in Wonderland weren't even well-received by critics and the still made an insane amount of bank. The Jungle Book was cited for having, "terrible CG" and everyone still came out to see it.

The problem is, like it or not, Godzilla is still a franchise in a niche sub-genre. Pacific Rim and Rampage couldn't bring in the numbers for this genre, so Godzilla will have to do it on name recognition alone. That's not much.

Disney's Aladdin could be complete garbage, but it will make a great deal more money than Godzilla 2--It's simply more popular and the people who grew up with it now have kids of their own they can take to see it. There's just no planet Aladdin won't do absurdly well.

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With that in mind, I bet Disney moves Avengers 4 up a week to give Aladdin some breathing room, which at minimum would be good for both Aladdin and Godzilla 2.

Well, WB did release the Suicide Squad SDCC trailer 1 year before the film's theatrical release if I recall correctly.

Making a movie exclusively for fans is a huge mistake every company can make and avoid. Godzilla fans(Or Kaiju fans in general) are very small compared to the mainstream audience, so our support isn't enough to help the movie.

^while I can agree with you on that 100%, there are small things that Dougherty has teased/added to this installment that only true fans would appreciate. For example(not confirmed but teased to all): a possible introduction of including the Oxygen Destroyer. Referring King Ghidorah as "Monster Zero", having Monarch file numbers reference dates that certain Kaiju films released in theaters(see Mothra for reference).

Just saying this movie is different. This is an American made monster movie that features 4 of Toho's most popular characters and giving them a whole new look and feel. King Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan have never been through a "Hollywood" treatment like Godzilla has.

Through a director like Dougherty, where he himself is a fan and knows the audience that he is always trying to reach with his films, he knows this is going to be special for Godzilla fans as well as the general audience. I just hope he knows how to balance this one out for both.

One on hand, having to wait longer for KOTM is terrible, but I'd rather have it polished over rushed.

I am a little worried about the competition though. I mean, Avengers 4 is going to steal moviegoers for 2 weeks before slowly dying down. After that John Wick 3 will earn decently, but I'm pretty sure that people would rather see KOTM than another terrible live-action remake in Aladdin and a monstrosity of Minecraft.

I feel that the opening will be ok, but it will slowly pick up after 2 weeks and finish strong. 

@riggzamortis86 "I can tell Dougherty really wants this movie to be for the fans." The stuff in this movie is clearly content fans will love and appreciate, but this movie, like the first two MonsterVerse installments, are design to appeal more to the general audience.

I hope he arrives on a scene by way of a hurricane at some point :D

yeah the vore pics are a little out of place.

I'd think it was more than likely that they already had something planned for comic con, if they wanted to make sure people were aware the movie was still coming it would be a good idea to release something.

^no pun intended? haha

I think they will at least give us a teaser for the movie. They said that this movie would be one of their blockbuster movies for the summer, so it would only make sense for them to give us something. Especually with Micheal Dougherty already giving us more teases, something bigger must be coming.

Well, if anything I guess WB is confident in this movie to push it back in a summer slot along with other big movies coming out around the same time. Although its a ballsy move and maybe in hindsight a poor judgment call to put it close to other huge releases to make it a summer blockbuster. I see this as a good sign despite having to wait another 2 months.

Well hopefully Avengers 4 or whatever it's in Disney's pockets doesn't soak up money from GKOM, money is what makes movies.

lets reset the clock again.

For crying out loud! They already pushed the movie back a year. 

Have mixed thoughts about this change. On one hand, that is over 70 days more of a wait for Godzilla 2. Man, that is a bit obnoxious.

On the other hand, that movie is being released on my birthday. Now I know, what I am doing for my birthday next year.

With that minor note being stated, how likely will the change in schedule affect Godzilla 2's representation in the june comic con?

Phew, man. The delay from 2018 to 2019 was one thing, but I wonder what caused this with a film that's already pretty far along. Maybe CG finishing touches? Maybe reshoots caused it. Funky funky.

Pushing the date back two months doesn't affect Warner Bros.' rights at all. The movie is still coming out in 2019, and Godzilla vs. Kong in 2020. Moving the release date of a film back by two months doesn't make Warner any more likely to somehow lose the rights to Godzilla before they release the last MonsterVerse film.

Well they have to release their movies by 2020. Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong could release one week after another, but so long as they release before their contract expires it's fine. It's now just a matter if the movies will be successful or not. 

From what I've read, my understanding is that Warner Bros. had a film scheduled for release that day, but it got pushed back and Warner wanted a film to release during the summer season and chose to move Godzilla back to fill the slot. If anything it shows Warner has some confidence at least in how this movie will do. It's iffy at best since it's releasing a week after Aladdin...

By the way, does anyone know how to reset that clock?

I do, but I think as long as they don't chose ugly/mismatching colors, it won't be so much of a problem. I do think that mural that was released last comic con is pretty indicative of what Mothra will look like, so as long as it looks like that, I think it'll all work.

Again, why are they doing this if they know their rights to Godzilla are going to expire in 2020? Just why?

For Rodan, yes. Just find a picture of a real Pteranodon, increase its size, add the parts that distinguish Rodan, and there you go. Lol.

For Mothra, though, I feel like she might get her wings changed a bit, like she did between the Showa and Heisei eras, and from her look in GMK to her look in the Kiryu saga and then back to her pre-Kiryu look in Final Wars. Plus her color pattern changes too, so one wrong color error, and it might get disgraced.

Do you see what I mean for both of them?

Warner Bros, you're smarter than this.

I think the reason their is so much discussion is because Ghidorah stands the largest chance of being messed up. Mothra is a giant moth and Rodan is a giant pteranodon roughly speaking. There's a lot of room to work with.

I think it just might be. I do think it'll do better in the States than Power Rangers did, but hopefully the international market will pull through like they did with G'14 and Kong. After Uprising though, I wouldn't be so sure...

I shouldn't find this hilarious, but I kinda do--If only due to how long the wait already is and the likelihood that this film's probably pretty far along by now. So now it's 4 weeks after Avengers 4, but 1 week after Aladdin (ballsy, Legendary). And if Gambit ever finds a director, Godzilla will once again find itself a week before an X-Men release date.

It seems far enough from Avengers 4 which will soak up everyone's money (Still--not wise WB), but 1 week after Aladdin? Ouch. Hope this isn't another Power Rangers scenario...