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macumbaloveGodzilla (Toho) NewsBREAKING: Godzilla vs. Kong (2020) tagline and banner displayed at Licensing Expo!

They will fight and have a clear victor. Then they will team up against a bigger threat.

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GmkgojiGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Godzilla has a 43% on rotten tomatoes, but rotten tomatoes is untrustworthy

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TheLazyFishGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Ditto. The only critic I listen to (even then) is the Nostalgia Critic. Also the Angry Video Game Nerd XD

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JHTGodzilla ForumHow fast should monsterverse Ghidorah fly

I said this is about opinions i knew Monsterverse Ghidorah's speed this is just about what we all think about his speed and how fast he should be.And I think he should be as fast as possible in my opinion which in Ghidorah's case that is mach 4.

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fluttashift54Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

I just don't really listen to critics. I judge the movie for myself and I think I will enjoy this one for the action and kaiju fanservice. I love Godzilla and have been a fan since I was really young.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

fluttashift54,
And most critics do understand this--People who were once filmmakers and studied film get that not every movie is supposed to be an "Oscar winner". That's a cop out argument. They just expect certain movies to live up to their promised potential and for some it has not.

Look at John Wick: Chapter 3 or Avengers: Endgame for example. Neither are going to win big awards, but both were highly praised by critics for delivering the types of movies they were meant to be.

Now granted, there's some grey area with Godzilla since it comes from a Japanese franchise and there are many American critics that have not studied Japanese cinema. However, seeing as this is an adaptation of that franchise, rather than a cultural transplant or foreign film, that shouldn't be too much of a hurdle to get over.

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fluttashift54Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

I'm not saying it's their fault, but to me, they seem to bash anything that isn't up to their high, oscar-tainted standards. It's a movie about giant monster fighting not an award show designed "masterpiece". It's Godzilla not The Departed.

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TheLazyFishGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

It's not entirely the film critics fault, as some others on here have said.

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fluttashift54Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Screw film critics imo. They don't know a good Godzilla movie and King of the Monsters is looking amazing based on the trailers and t.v. promos. I'll enjoy it if it's kaiju action to the max!

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fluttashift54Godzilla ForumWhat Made You a Godzilla Fan?

Been a G fan all my life! Excited for King of the monsters and Godzilla Vs. Kong and can't wait to see if the Monsterverse continues. Hopefully, Toho lets them if the movies do well and maybe they could even join in on the creative front and help out!

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fluttashift54Godzilla (Toho) NewsGodzilla: King of the Monsters Blu-ray Packaging Revealed!

Got my tickets for me and my friend pre-ordered for friday at 7 in IMAX! I cannot wait!!! Been a G fan since I was really young and I love some good old kaiju action! Blu-ray art looks dope, love that shot of Godzilla! Breathtaking!

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GmkgojiGodzilla ForumHow fast should monsterverse Ghidorah fly

There already is an official speed

550 knots, or about mach 2

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TheLazyFishGodzilla ForumDo not go to YouTube and search King of the Monsters

Same, I'm going to see it tomorrow. No one else in my city, as far as I know, likes Godzilla. If someone somehow randomly spoils it for me... let's just say they'll have opened a fresh can of hell on themselves XD

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KingKaijuGojiraGodzilla ForumDo not go to YouTube and search King of the Monsters

Even if I don't search for it directly, I fear some clips might appear in my recommended videos. Thanks for the reminder though. I just need to hold out until tomorrow.

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GhostFaceOlkGodzilla 2: King of the Monsters ForumGodzilla King of The Monsters Predictions

I already have my tickets and I am taking my son and 5 year old nephew. I am afraid they are going to kill off Rodan! I hope they don't. Rodan and Godzilla team ups was something I truly loved as a child.

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Winston&LeeloosDadGodzilla (Toho) NewsBREAKING: Godzilla vs. Kong (2020) tagline and banner displayed at Licensing Expo!

I believe they can have a winner between the 2, and still appease fans of both Godzilla and Kong, whereby the 2 eventually team up against a new foe.

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TeratosmokGodzilla vs. Kong (2020) ForumGodzilla vs. Kong 2020 supposed plot leak April 2019

But I hope it isn't real, the plot seems ridiculous and Rodan is my second favorite kaiju behind Godzilla so having him get killed without becoming a major ally to Godzilla is stupid. Rodan has never died and when he did die, it wasn't treated as just another monster dying. Also, the World Destroyer seems crap especially when there's a chance to use motherfucking Mecha-King Ghidorah.

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TeratosmokGodzilla vs. Kong (2020) ForumGodzilla vs. Kong 2020 supposed plot leak April 2019

Stumbled upon this leak in the internet, thought nothing of it but since I already watched the movie. This leak raised a few red flags because during the ending


SPOILER ALERT!

 

 

 

 

 

 

>Rodan has a red scar, after having been stabbed by Mothra.

>During the post credits scene, Charles Dances character is looking at a decapitated King Ghidorah head.

This leaks mention that Rodan has a scar and mentions a Decapitated Ghidorah head. Coincidence? I think not, if you don't believe me, watch the movie yourself on the 31st because where I am from, the movie has been released. I originally thought the decapitated Ghidorah head was for Mecha King Ghidorah but apparently not.

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dkGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

We certainly have the power to make something as arbitrary as a "tomatometer" irrelevant, but apparently not the will.

For starters, we could just check out stuff that interests us. Or we can be mindless consumers and just watch and pretend to enjoy whatever comes out with tons of hype and nod heads , be happy and ensure being current for water cooler discussions. 

Do as you are told, buy your tickets,snacks and parking- and enjoy the block buster you are told to enjoy. It sold a lot of tickets so it must be great, right? Whatever. It is both your time and dime. Hopefully you will enjoy- the numbers say you should!

Yes, this is intentionally provocative. The intent is to encourage people to not get caught up in so called expert previews and reviews. 

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Godzillatheking123,
And as true as that may be, it doesn't make it right. Like I said, in 80s and 90s critics were reserved after audiences had seen the film. Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel even insisted on that kind of order. The former even wrote about the death of film criticism in the mid-2000s as publications were pulling word counts from newspapers and magazines.

When Rotten Tomatoes came into being it only belittled it further. Quantifying thought and analysis may be trendy, but it's not accurate. And in the case of film criticism, we as audiences that assimilate this kind of information have allowed it to happen by turning to RT's numbers.

We certainly have the power to make something as arbitrary as a "tomatometer" irrelevant, but apparently not the will.

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Peter D.Godzilla ForumWhat Made You a Godzilla Fan?

Saturday movies on TV from late 60's on...I watched all the giant monster movies, and loved 'em all.  But Godzilla...truly the king of them all.  And now my entire family loves him.  Such a huge geek-pride feeling when I took my oldest to see Godzilla 2000 at the theaters :)

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Peter D.Godzilla ForumWhat is Your favorite Incarnation Of Godzilla

Millennium if I HAVE to choose, but hey it's the Big Guy, so gimme all of 'em!

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dkGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Godzillatheking123 

 Everyone demands a number, a correlation and so on.

That's what I was talking about. I think if something sounds interesting, one should just check it out. Deciding whether to experience something like a movie based on metrics is a form of peer pressure. 

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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

G. H. (Gman): Well, it's true some critics just don't get Godzilla, haha. ;)

As for the rise of RT, it is part of the larger trend of the move towards quantification over qualitative analysis in society. You see it in sports, businesses and the academia. Everyone demands a number, a correlation and so on. No one cares about qualitative analysis anymore, sadly.

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PatzillaGodzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

"Too many monsters"

I see nothing wrong with this

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TheGMan123Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

At the end of the day, I think it's best if everyone tries to go in without anyone else's opinions informing their own, at least on the first few watches.

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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumGodzilla vs King Ghidorah 1991: Anti-American?

G. H. (Gman): Very good point. When seeing the film in isolation, it may be hard for some to understand why there would be allegations of Anti-Amercianism. But seen in the larger context of Japan's ambivalent attitude towards it's own conduct in WW2, then it makes a lot sense. 

And on that note, Americans sometimes don't realize that neigboring Asian countries were subjected to the worse of the Japanese atrocities in the war. The Koreans, Chinese and Filipinos in particular were the victims of heinous acts by the Japanese military. So when they see wishy-washy attitude on the part of the Japanese government towards owning up to it's WW2 behavior, you can't blame them for feeling outraged and angry. 

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

Godzillatheking123,
When people say sentences to the effect, "critics know nothing" and the like, it paints a picture that they aren't needed or don't understand the genre. That may be the case for some, no doubt, but that's not the point I was driving home. The point I'm making is that film critics need to be seen in a different light. Quantifying their reviews as mere numbers instead of reading their words does a diservice to them and audiences.

Critics may have helped to devalue their profession, but Rotten Tomatoes started the campaign. We as audience members don't help them either when we only look at a percentage to sum up some likely more intelligent words that might have been said--We're just as much at fault for keeping that website alive.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumGodzilla vs King Ghidorah 1991: Anti-American?

dk,
I think the issue was less that people were upset and more that the movie was framing Japan as victims of a lost war. This is a problem since Japanese history books have omitted much of WWII for a very long time. In 1997 the Prime Minister pushed for a movement called the, Japanese Society of History and Textbook Reform. It paints Japan's involvement in the Pacific War in a more sympathetic light and omits many of their own atrocities, including comfort women and the Nanjing Massacre--An event that even made the Nazis wince.

While the internment camps are a regrettable part of our history, at least they remain a part of our history books. Japan, on the other hand, seems to want to omit their war-time atrocities that make the internment camps look like child's play. A few Godzilla movies have taken sides on this topic through vague terms.

The scene in question may be a symptom of that kind of mindset.

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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumIgnore most of the reviews

G. H. (Gman): I don't think anyone here said point blank that there should be no film criticism. That was never the point. The point is that film critics themselves have devalued their own profession, which you yourself has now admitted. 

And don't look at the RT score? Too late now. People today want instant gratification, instant knowledge. They have busy lives and don't have the time and patience to assess a movie by going through and reading many critics opinion on it. 

And even if they do read critics review carefully, like me, I do find critics have less and less meaningful things to say about a moive these days. Which goes back to the degradation of the profession. And you have to admit, some critics do harbor certain agendas when it comes to film review. That tends to rub people the wrong way, especially us fans. Like what the OP, they already dismiss Godzilla before watching it. 

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Titan of WaterGodzilla ForumMy Godzilla Marathon

It definitely still has problems. It’s not even close to Biollante in terms of quality. What I was trying to say with a 4/5 rating was that it was good but not great.

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dkGodzilla ForumGodzilla vs King Ghidorah 1991: Anti-American?

LOL! People got upset over that? A few actors getting stomped in a movie is nothing to cry over compared to people of Japanese descent being held in internment camps around the same time. Some resentment is understandable imo. If people are offended, that is their problem.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMy Godzilla Marathon

Titan of Water,
The movie.

EmptyH,
I got you. I enjoy the flick, but it's not particularly as great as the fandom at large tends to see it.

Whenever you can't figure out who the main character is, you have serious problems.

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