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@G. H. (Gman) I was wondering when did those sites say Smog Monster was in public domain?
Ok I've tried to do more research on the Godzilla (2014) & Kong: Skull Island DVD but I can't find anything all I have it an apparent release date and a DVD cover and 2 people saying it did come out but no pure evidence
So I'm calling it that it doesn't exist
Ok,this is hard to explain,but,EDB Season 2 is cancelled,sorry,i just don't have the time,i have to do some things in my personal life,i don't always have the time to make these things,and i hope that you understand,i am very sorry.
Ok peeps so after the discussion I have reached a verdict
You I wins against every Godzilla except
Hellwalker Godzilla
God Godzilla
Shin Gojira( still debating on that)
Hey, so why hasn't Eugene's description of the Cinema Expo footage been posted as a news story?
It certainly sounds more legitimate based solely on the original content not relying on references to the old material AND the poster's own background.
He's also clarified on details when asked by Kaiju News Outlet and has been retweeted by the likes of Gormaru Island.
I wonder if godzilla looks different
I really hope that it improves on the roster that was given to us in the other Godzilla game that came out for the PS4 in 2014/2015.
Also, which version of King Ghidorah are they using?
Also also, I hope that we can play as all versions of the MUTO (MUTO 1 and MUTO 2 from 2014, MUTO Prime from Godzilla: Aftershock, and MUTO 3 from 2019).
Oh boy, a chick fight. Lol :)
But in all seriousness, it depends on who is better in combat, but by themselves, I would say Miki, only because she was still alive despite being in very close proximity to the radioactive Little Godzilla in Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla and Burning Godzilla's nuclear meltdown (which should still kill a normal person due to just being in the vicinity) in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, and need I remind everyone that nuclear radiation is much more lethal than Mana, not to mention that Heisei Gamera almost died from the nuke that destroyed Sendai, while Heisei Godzilla survived blowing up all of the uranium deposits on Birth Island.
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If any of the mortal Godzilla was possessed by Amon from Devilman, than they surely could kill Goku.
I didn't really see anything weird
... Sounds too good to be true if it has Mechanikong.
Gmkgoji
Dont we all, but some battles You I just can't win.
The real question is who is better at brawling and close range combat?
To comics, yeah. You said ANY incarnation. Also, fire godzilla can't beat goku. For starters, if he just doesn't use atomic breath for some reason, he can't hit him. Second of all, even Vegeta before he went super saiyan could blow up the planet... so...
"Actively lying" tad harsh and untrue... JEEZ
" I've put up with a fair amount of BS from people who don't properly read context, narrative intent, and simple physics logic in debates. I've honed my craft in objective analysis, and it's just frustrating to deal with the likes of an argument like this where there's really only one clear answer." Once again, not a point.
"Sorry if I'm getting a bit flustered, but I hate arguments like these where it keeps going on and on and nobody wants to just give in." Yeah I agree, I'm just going to stop responding. At this point, we're kind of just restating the same points over and over again hoping the other person finally gets it.
As early as early Dragon Ball where Goku had surpassed Roshi, Goku would beat most forms of Godzilla besides the immortal ones like Hell Walker Godzilla.
Roshi could already blow up the moon with a superpowered Kamehameha, and Goku surpassed him a while ago.
Hmmm why use the 2014 godzilla? I hope they use the 2019 Godzilla
The lazy fish
I think fire godzilla could beat him. This Godzilla was able to shrug off all three of ghidorahs gravity beams and in the same scene killed ghidorah with only three blast.
The true shark boy.
I might create one when I have time maybe this weekend ^_^
Again, you're reading the wrong kind of context.
Without any actual feats that point to Showa G being able to effectively navigate a Category 6 hurricane (being "adaptable" does not count if said adaptability doesn't actually include a hurricane or storm), we can't say he'd simply adapt to it. We CAN say that he's adaptable to Earth-like atmospheres (going by the films' depictions being Earth-like), water, and space. That's it. That's what's confirmed.
I'm not saying he'd be thrown around or anything; just that it's NOT an advantage to him, because it's not an element he's known to be found. You also are literally lying about Monsterverse G not being used to it as it actively ignores the plot of him using the storms to terraform Earth and his simple age. It's more likely that him creating storms upon entering atmospheric conditions is an intentional biological trait the species uses to its advantage.
As for the flight speed argument, do bear in mind he was literally flying right above the ground AND wing-walking without proper lift; he was also just plain pissed off at the Alpha signal. In the air proper, he could match Rodan in an aerial collision course in speed and obviously moves with the storm at high speeds.
With regards to Showa G's Gravity Beam, do note he NEVER has demonstrated that he bothers to focus it down; it's not an observed behavioural trait, and indeed he displays the opposite with his wildly flailing heads. I'm not saying he CAN'T, just that it's not likely for him to do it simply due to the way he behaves on average. He hasn't displayed any intent or intelligence in doing this against ANY foes he's fought; not Godzilla, not Rodan, not Anguirus, not even Zone Fighter.
Going along with that, as demonstrated above, Monsterverse G went after Rodan once the latter had briefly retreated, and he obviously chased down Emma. He was also prepared to chase down Mark and the others when they were leaving Boston. He is more than used to chasing down his prey.
As for the absorption, due note that Godzilla had not displayed increased physical strength from his own absorption of the nuke. He still stalemates Monsterverse G in a collision, creating the shockwave like in Antarctica; it's bigger because the 2 Titans had greater distance and speed to build up momentum for the force of their collision. He even had a constantly glowing rack of backspines; Ghidorah didn't even retain his orange glow after absorbing Boston's power grid. Also note that Burning Godzilla is very specifically a state only attainable through Mothra; it's a unique symbiosis ability.
Overall, there's just a very poor argument to be made for Showa G's side. I've put up with a fair amount of BS from people who don't properly read context, narrative intent, and simple physics logic in debates. I've honed my craft in objective analysis, and it's just frustrating to deal with the likes of an argument like this where there's really only one clear answer.
Could Showa G win in maybe 1 specific circumstance? Yes, but even that's unlikely due to the overwhelming number of advantages that Monsterverse G has. He can't hit hard enough even with sustained ranged attacks to truly make a dent (sustained beam use can't even crack open Showa Godzilla's face), he can't keep up with the better agility of Monsterverse G who can simply swerve his necks out of the way, he can't intelligently plan out well enough to take advantage of his larger and superior counterpart's weak areas, and he just can't take any hits well enough from the overwhelming power of the Legendary Titan.
Sorry if I'm getting a bit flustered, but I hate arguments like these where it keeps going on and on and nobody wants to just give in. It feels like the answer should be obvious, and yet here we are still.
... Melee fight, Godzilla, because Goku would die from the radiation. However, if Goku were to fight from super high in the air, I think the only ones that could hit him would be Millenium or Shin Godzilla. Burning Godzilla would kill him from existing/meltdown. He'd have to spirit bomb or Kamehameha them hard enough to kill them, which he can do. However, if he's against comic Godzilla... comic Godzilla would probably win, I mean, he KILLED god and satan... while in DBS, Goku couldn't beat Beerus, a lower tier god. Comic Godzilla would stand the best chance.
Nice profile pic Shark!
One thing though... THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE PERSON WITH A MEGALODON PROFILE PICTURE AROUND THESE HERE PARTS!!!!!!! XD jk
Have you ever thought of making a fight scenario?
Buu saga goku destroys most versions of goji since he’s galaxy level in my opinion
Pretty good fight. My suggestion is Godzilla (showa or millennium) vs space Godzilla. If not how about monster x vs space Godzilla
Oh you haven't seen how weird these chapters can get. The next few chapters are more light hearted... then hopefully it won't be so weird afterwards.
This was a very VERY V E R Y weird chapter.
And I am more confident that monsterverse Ghidorah would use his own storms for surprise/stealth attacks kind of like how toothless hid in the clouds to repeatedly ambush the red death because he did fight in the sky when he was faced with aerial rivals specifically rodan and if you notice before he tried to drain Godzillas energy he flicked his tongues at him meaning he sensed something about Godzilla implying he could detect the energy building up inside of him and he was trying to drain it so Godzilla wouldn't have the strength to keep fighting or recover.
TheLazyFish actually Godzilla can absorb each other's atomic breath because they are bio atomic Ghidorah is not bio atomic so he can not absorb Godzillas atomic breath but he can vampirize his energy just like keizer Ghidorah did to final war Godzilla and like death Ghidorah did to mothra leo in rebirth of mothra and monsterverse Ghidorahs gravity beams could blast straight through several buildings in Boston almost like shin Godzillas atomic breath showa Ghidorahs gravity beams just blew little chunks off of buildings. Plus it was implied that showa Ghidorah was a pawn buy alien invaders then when his mind control was severed he would still attack but he would be disoriented and when he wasn't he acted more on brawn than brain monsterverse Ghidorah appears to take the place of the alien invader who orchestrates attacks destroy all monsters style with lesser kaiju almost exterminating humanity if not for Madison using the orca to make him think he was being challenged by a rival until Godzilla arrived to challenge him yet again.
Well, Monsterverse Ghidorah couldn't even keep up with Emma Russel's car, he had to gravity beam it to get the ORCA. Showa Ghidorah is definitely known to be faster than a car.
Yeah, Boston doesn't have as much energy, but the thing you're not thinking about is energy consumption efficiency. Ghidorah probably uses energy more efficiently than Godzilla, or else Godzilla would have had atomic breath feats much more impressive than the electricity coming from Ghidorah's wings. Also, electricity and energy are probably his primary food sources, and he could very well metabolize food very differently to us due to being an alien. How much he eats could affect his physical strength. Also, we do see radiation affect Godzilla's physical strength, because when he absorbed Mothra's radiation he went fire, and then Ghidorah's gravity beams couldn't even push him back or make him flinch. So his regeneration and his ability to pick up Godzilla could very well have been affected. Also, the electricity isn't what made Godzilla not fight back, it was because he was tired/was about to go thermonuclear and was leaning on a building and panting.
Actively using the storms is a bit of a stretch, it's more of a passive ability that follows him. Also, no, no he would not be used to it, because that storm doesn't follow him into outer space or anything, it just came as a result of him coming to Earth. And there are feats to back up Showa's adaptability, such as him being able to actually fly as soon as he reaches Earth, the Xilien planet, and Venus, despite them all containing different atmospheric compositions, temperature, gravity, etc. On Earth, he could move fairly easily in the water, despite never being in a liquid with the same buoyancy, composition, etc. Ghidorah can't even swim very well, let alone actually adapt quickly to such elements. I don't think a storm (not the same as a hurricane) that posed no problems for Rodan, the Monarch ship, and any of the jets flying around in the Ghidorah fight in D.C. AND Boston, then it shouldn't be much of a problem for Showa Ghidorah either.
Also, no, we never see him chase down and engage in melee. Whatever he fought always came to fight him in melee too. Except for Emma Russel, who was in a car... and he couldn't catch up... and he had to gravity beam her. He's not that good at chasing.
Monsterverse Ghidorah's "quirk" is quite different from Showa's. Showa's was not incredibly important to tactics, so he never bothered to keep them straight. Monsterverse Ghidorah, however, completely missed out, numerous times, a battle tactic that could have won him his fight against Godzilla. Not something that's even too hard too come up with, just what an average spammer in a multiplayer game does. But, as I said before, if Showa Ghidorah wanted to do it, he could, or else he would almost never hit his opponents. He just needs to aim for the heads. Most regular animals always go for the head or neck, or some vital area that will assure them the kill, so of course Showa Ghidorah would as well.
Also, just because you've done your fair share of V.S. debates, doesn't necessarily mean you're right. That's like saying because one person has done more debates than some other person, even though the other person knows much more about the subject, the guy who did more debates wins because they did more debates, even if they were wrong every time. Not saying that's even close to the case here, but just saying that it's not a point in the slightest.
