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Gmkgoji "Funny, I don't like bacon. Never have."
YOU DARE CALL YO SELF A HUMAN BEING!?!?!?! How can you even live with yourself!?
Well, I mean...I like asain bacon (Pork belly) but not the thin, crispy strips called "Bacon"
I think the film is pretty good up until the Godzilla reveal, and you actually spent enough time with the characters to be tired of them.
Gmkgoji "Funny, I don't like bacon. Never have."
INFIDEL!
Funny, I don't like bacon. Never have.
That's really cool,JurassicKaiju14! I felt the same way when I did The Whited Out Stuff.
I don't remember much about it. I saw it on Syfy when I was little and it was actually my FIRST Godzilla movie.
I...actually liked this movie. More in a funny way than anything, but I do enjoy this thing. I remember when I'd annoy my dad by watching it back-to-back XD
Rain and night settings are used to hide CG flaws to this day. It was the same in the mid-1990s. Though Jurassic Park still had excellent daytime CG and visual effects that looked far more convincing than this abortion.
That said, since I have no real love for the film, I'll go the opposite direction and dig out something nice to say about it for a change.
I think the first act of the film is pretty solid. Everything before the setting switches to New York has some very dramatic and clever build-up, from the terror in the Japanese' fisherman's, "Gojira" to the dramatic reveal of Nick standing in the footprint, the movie was setting the stage for a terrifying force to come crashing on these characters. Unfortunately that power and terror never came and the first act's build-up feels more like red herring as a result.
Who's idea was it to have it be constantly raining almost all throughout the film?
If memory serves, I think CGI worked best in dark rainy environments like JP back then. Dry daylight seemed to show flaws. I could be wrong, but that is what I read and noticed about movies from that era.
Most hate the movie, but I thought it was a decent popcorn flick and it's nice you gave it a chance.
dk "There has to be a reason for the fights- and that's where humans come in."
See, that's another reason why I liked KOTM's story, at least conceptually. Unlike 2014, where both Godzilla and the MUTOs are awoken by pure accident or ignorance, and the ramifications of that weren't really explored, KOTM's crisis is caused by the direct actions of the human antagonists who arrogantly thought that doing so was the right thing to do for their own ends. But the situation ends up spiraling out of their control, and their efforts only make things even worse than the dilemma they were trying to avert. Even at the end of the movie, the damage has still been done, and there's no going back from that.
KingSalomonMMIV Thank you for taking the time to read this. :) And yes, I do hope that more Godzilla fans can understand this in time. I like a good monster fight as much as the next fella, but outside of mini-movies and animations on YouTube, I don't think any Godzilla movie should be only wall-to-wall monster fights.
Very nice, JurassicKaiju14! This is something that all Godzilla fans, as well as any fans of scifi / fantasy need hear.
humans are the real monsters. :)
That has always been a theme to me.
Very well stated JurassicKaiju14. All fighting all the time would get boring fairly quickly. There has to be a reason for the fights- and that's where humans come in.
G. H. (Gman) Well, thank you. And I have to admit, I never really thought of Katsura and Titanosaurus being related in quite that way before.
i think:
miami
hudson bay (canada)
kyoto
shanghai
somewhere in russia
NYC
excellent question, thanks for asking. I remember seeing an ad for kotm when I went to the theatres to watch the most recent how to train your dragon movie, and I realized I knew practically nothing about the monster (Not even how many films were in monsterverse) so when I got home I put "Godzilla" into the search bar. I was so enamoured I went to see kotm a week later. that's my story.
Godzilla is a lone warrior willing to protect kaiju and humans
I was born in Guatemala.
Bravo, JurassicKaiju14, bravo. Well said and dissected. I especially appreciate this excerpt:
"Whether Godzilla is an allegory for the Hiroshima bomb or the folly of Man in general, the humans are an essential part of driving those messages home; they’re the ones who are affected by the creatures’ actions. Without them, the movies would collapse in on themselves."
Indeed. A generalized point of monster movies has been to emphasize the monstrous deeds by humanity--From Frankenstein to Cloverfield. If there's no mankind, there's no sins of man, making the narrative existence of these creatures moot.
Another thing I want to add is that sometimes these monsters mirror the arcs characters are going through. Take Terror of MechaGodzilla, for instance--Katsura and Titanosaurus share similar trajectories. They're both gentle beings that have been exploited and transformed into killing machines. Both meet tragic ends for what others have done to them.
Asagi in the Gamera trilogy has a connection with Gamera--Making her a necessary link to humanity in order for Gamera to avoid unnecessary collateral damage. In the third movie, Ayana bonds with Iris, both feeding off one another's hatred for Gamera.
Even in the 2014 film, Ford and Godzilla mirror one another as two tired soldiers going through a journeyman arc. It comes to a head as they briefly lock eyes, both exhausted and injured by the film's climax.
We need these characters, not merely to spout exposition and engage cinematic themes, but to connect, empathize and characterize the creatures. The best of the genre is a marriage of monsters and men, entwined seamlessly into the story. The worst is normally what fans think they want--Just straight monsters wandering and fighting for two hours. (Snooze.)
Why guatemala? Just curious.
Gmkgoji Took the words right out my mouth.
1998 Godzilla was even Godzilla at all! I have both the Heisei and the Millennium movies(except for Godzillas Revenge and Godzilla vs Biollante) on dvd and the blu-ray of King Kong vs Godzilla and even those were better!
ThiccolasCage Welcome! It's an honor to have you on here with us.
Never seen Blair Witch.
Let's hope he does a better job on this than Death Note, or Blair Witch.
Okay,whatever floats your goat. Or is it boat? I not sure.
(GASP!)I didn't know that!
We already know that there are scenes being shot in Hong Kong, so that's pretty much confirmed.
G. H. (Gman) It didn't bother me as much as other movies I've seen. For instance, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom. I rolled my eyes every time they did stuff like "US President Questions Whether Dinosaurs Ever Existed In The First Place", or how one of the characters literally says "What a nasty woman", super on the nose stuff like that.
"I just don't think King of the Monsters crafted a very consistent story around it's choice of theme."
Eh, agree to sorta disagree.
Monster_Zero 2112 That's not politics. That's just the folly of man at play.
The politics I mean was the government trying to kill the Titans and taking the situation into their own hands, and then making it worse by killing Godzilla before he could finish Ghidorah off.
JurassicKaiju14,
The environmental themes are very politically charged. I think almost every movie these days has some sort of socio-political issue(s) to tackle, I just don't think King of the Monsters crafted a very consistent story around it's choice of theme.
NOOOOOO!!! NOT THE BACON! WHYYY?! What's next? Fruit Loops? I can't imagine a world without Fruit Loops. Or Pop-Tarts.
Monster_Zero 2112 Politics? What politics? KOTM was one of the most politics-free movies I've seen recently. The only thing that comes close to politics is all the environmental stuff and the folly of man and whatnot, but that kind of messaging has been a part of the franchise from almost the beginning.
I just hope that it really doesn't have a LOT of politics in it, because that was the only down part of KOTM.
Well said. Well said indeed.
