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JurassicKaiju14

I'm not too terribly keen on the idea of Godzilla fighting Kong. I don't hate the idea, but up until now, I just didn't think it was necessary. I'm not really interested in it as just a straight-up brawl. I'm more interested in how it fits into the MonsterVerse's overall story, and how it carries the universe forward.

I 1000% agree. Godzilla vs Kong has no place in the Monsterverse if it doesn't develope / carry the story (but I do love the idea of Godzilla and Kong fighting).

Well, this is the movie we're getting, and this is just me trying to brainstorm how to plausibly fit it into the movie's narrative, and the greater MonsterVerse story arc as a whole.

I actually kind of have the opposite opinion. I'm not too terribly keen on the idea of Godzilla fighting Kong. I don't hate the idea, but up until now, I just didn't think it was necessary. I'm not really interested in it as just a straight-up brawl. I'm more interested in how it fits into the MonsterVerse's overall story, and how it carries the universe forward. I maintain that this film's conflicts will be partially a result of what has gone down in KOTM, and the aftershock of all of that.

But who knows, maybe the movie will surprise me and I'll actually be on the edge of my seat more than I expect to be during their fights (fingers crossed).

October 20 would leave 18 days for Venom 2 and 16 days for Godzilla vs Kong before the Eternals for frontload audiences.

I really like your setup for Mechagodzilla, a man made alpha titan used to control the monsters to do our bidding, and that's how I think it will be in the film. This is something I would love to see in another Monsterverse movie, but I don't think Mechagodzilla in general will work within GvK.

I do like your idea, but in a movie titled "Godzilla vs Kong," I would like the movie to live up to that title, with the entire plot revolving around Godzilla and Kong's feud. A subplot concerning a machanical kaiju who becomes the main antoganist towards the end would take away from the concept of cinema's most iconic monsters battling each other (and I just overall don't fancy the idea of a team up). 

Ultimately, I would never ever put Mechagodzilla in my film if I were making GvK, but perhaps the makers have found a way to fit him in without creating a messy, bumpy subplot (fingers crossed).

Don't get me wrong, this is a great idea, but I would like to see it in another film, not GvK. 

in all honesty I hope they all do well, I’m rooting for GvK like the rest of ya, just thought this be funny.

@Jurassickaiju14

lol that’s pretty funny

GvK can't keep running away from the competition. I thought late November was a mistake from the very beginning, but its set now and I don't see it moving again. I think this move will hurt Bond more than GvK simply because Bond would have crushed in April.

Lol. Sure, why not?

1. so far, the only movie competing within the same time frame and the same general audience is james bond. Raya is more for younger families, whereas GvK and bond are more geared for teens and adults. eternals, while most likely going to be a success, is not likely to majorly impact anything more than two weeks after it's release.

2. The marketing for GvK can definitely turn this around. WB seems to be putting a lot of stock into the film and it's marketing, has a new expert on board that helped market the marvel movies, and WB has probably wisened up after their overcockiness in may/june with KOTM. Plus, GvK more than any other film can milk off of the US Presidential Election, which will definitely help it go mainstream

Such a shame I was looking forward to No Time to Die next month so much but I understand the reasoning behind the delay.

 Also it's amusing to see two of the longest running franchises, Godzilla and Bond,  sharing the same release month. I'm not sure that's happened before but again, amusing.  I've also found the two had very similar trajectories in their evolution and became very reflective of their eras.

Godzilla vs Kong was going to face an uphill battle regardless of what was placed around it, mostly because of expectations that come from the title alone. Even if it still had the March date the virus situation might have done considerable damage to it so if they decide to move GvK again I'll understand. 

I hope it turns out well for both films and i will be there day 1 for both. 

In the meantime, take care of yourselves people and stay safe.

I was very young and always a fan of dinosaurs and big reptiles and such. I don't know exactly when I was exposed or what the crystallizing moment was, but I that around 4-5 years old I was watching the Hanna-Barbera cartoon on Cartoon Network, the movies on Disney Channel* (mostly during their Triple-Feature Fridays; my Mom recorded a couple of those nights on VHS so we could watch them anytime, I particularly remember watching the Ghidorah triple of Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster, Monster Zero, and Godzilla vs Gigan), and a cheap knockoff Godzilla toy my Nana got me thinking it was a dinosaur toy. It's become family legend that I opened it (it was a birthday or Christmas gift) and when she said "I hope you like your new dinosaur," I put my hands on my hips and said "Nana, that's not a dinosaur - it's Godzilla!" I still have that toy.

With all of that, I think becoming a fan was inevitable. Now I have a room full of amazing kaiju swag and no money XD

*I'm pretty sure it was Disney. It might have been ABC or TNT, though. I was 4-5ish.

^

Oh, for f*ck's sake, and how could we know if there'll be anything to give it a similar level of competition in early 2021?

G fans will get pretty upset over this, whether it be the movie bombing at the box office or getting pushed back to 2021 due to NTtD (and there's a 99% chance that one of those will happen). This could be New Mutants all over again, lol. 

Oh, well.

It'll have to move again for there to be a prayer of breaking even.

Let's not be too pessimistic. Or optimistic, depending on how you view this movie. Who knows? Maybe things'll have improved by the time November rolls around.

We just can't catch a break, can we?

I would say 2021 would probably be a good idea at this point, even if it still has no chance of outcompeting whatever it goes up against then at least it will have some breathing room.

I'm dying laughing, because you have to appreciate the irony. China, once the Monsterverse's glowing ray of hope, is now a pain in the ass due to the coronavirus forcing studios to shuffle release schedules.

It would be best for the movie to just be released in 2021 now, but Legendary/WB would have to get that okayed by Toho based off what Shinji Higuchi said about their deal.

The release schedule was already pretty tight, but now there's no likelihood GvK could do well in November. WB will probably move it again, I'm sure, but the question is where.

Moldovan0731 I mean, the MonsterVerse didn't really have a singular set tone between the first two movies, so there's that.

Offhand, I'd like for the MonsterVerse to continue, because I feel like there's a lot of room for stories to tell in it. But if GvK goes the way I think it will, then I can see it as a good end-point from a narrative angle.

Well, this could pose pretty godd competition if most people didn't notice the wokeness in the trailer... I'm okay with the Monsterverse ending with Godzilla vs Kong though. I think the Monsterverse kinda fell apart/became inconsistent with KOTM/Michael Dougherty.

TheLazyFish

It almost deffinately won't, considering the title is Godzilla vs Kong. If it were along the lines of Final Wars, such as inclusions of several classic monsters, the film would be cheating the audience, and it would probably make little profit as a result. Also, fitting in an end battle between Godzilla and Kong with a definate winner amongst all that would be way too scattered, especially in a less-than 2 hour movie, so I don't think that will be the case.

Please don't let this be Final Wars

Due to the spoiler-filled toys that were leaked recently (from Playmates I believe?), it would appear that GvK has the potential of being very scattered, with too many subplots and and forced character inclusions (no spoilers). However, the makers of the film could have deffinately found a way to make it work. So in a ~110 minute runtime, the movie can go two ways: it could be a well paced, gripping, focused blockbuster, or a chaotic, scatterbrained, crammed disaster with too much on its plate... who knows ¯_('-')_/¯

Most Godzilla movies have a similar run time... but for the Monsterverse, I'm not sure. It probably will be a similar pacing to KOTM, which worries me a bit, but it's probably not going to be god awful like Final Wars. 

H E C C

Here's what I think: the Monsterverse Mechagodzilla is built around the bones of the skeleton seen in the opening of Godzilla (2016). The red-spined "Mega Godzilla" is what happens after they manage to trigger the cloning/regen of that Godzilla, and Mechagodzilla becomes more of a Cyborg-Godzilla, kind of like the Cybergodzilla from Godzilla: The Series. That big red, metal structure of spines is the artificial reactor and energy weapon system for the beast. This would let Kong "beat" a full, flesh-and-blood Godzilla without killing off the Big H himself, and could lead to the movie having this structure:

Kong v Godzilla: no winner

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla: Mechagodzilla wins

Godzilla and Kong v Mechagodzilla: G and K win

Godzilla and Kong v Mega-Godzilla: Mega-Godzilla beats Godzilla seemingly to death but is killed by Kong

Godzilla absorbs Mega-Godzilla's radiation, but doesn't finish off the injured Kong

Movie ends with Godzilla as the defacto Alpha, but both know Kong is strong enough to hold the position. Mothra will probably be involved, too, as will Rodan. Hopefully in more than appearing just to killed roles. 

 EDIT: Alternatively, "Mega-Godzilla" is what kicks the plot off. Bad guys manage to control/direct Godzilla using the red metal rig and Kong is either the first target as a rival Alpha they can't control, or as an attempt by Monarch to stop evil Godzilla. Kong wins, so Plan B, Mechagodzilla, is activated. Kong proves unable to beat the metal monstrosity, but then a "reports of my death were greatly exaggerated" Godzilla arrives and beats Mechagodzilla into scrap, maybe with an assist from Kong. This would also allow a loophole for Kong to "beat" Godzilla, but not kill him permanently. 

Though, personally I hope for a version where Godzilla wins. I think it would be appropriate to have Godzilla win in the US film where Kong won in the Japanese film. A gentlemanly tip of the hat to the other culture's greatest monster, and all. I guess we'll see.

I put those randomly at any time, place, and position for reasons beyond your understanding.

Gmkgoji Isn't this kinda the wrong place to put this?

so if its less than 2 hours it must be 1:59:59

Just a little joke

But for real less than 2 hours, they might go straight into the final battle quick.

Q : Titanus Qetzalcoatl.

Y'all know that old movie at least needs a "Q2".

Ooh, one more, Titanus Tetanus. Ouch!

~Rift Rat.

Sick toy!

Wait, Kong destroys Godzilla's dorsals to neutralize his Atomfire blasts? Excuse me.

YaAahghkt. Mnum-mih. Milmpf. Plerval.

Splork.

Looks pretty good, but best design ever? Including the movies? I still prefer the movie designs better, but this IS an awesome design. The head's a bit weird though.

JurassicKaiju14

That'd be fucking amazing!

I have to agree with lazy.It would be an interesting setup.

Monster X/Keizer Ghidorah was going to be my first answer but Gigan would be great if they introduce advanced alien civilizations. Essentially being a more advanced rendition of Mechagodzilla, being complete cybernetic with both synthetic and organic parts harmoniously blended together

TheLazyFish Or how about a war between different species of Ghidorahs?