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Hopefully, Legendary will announce s release date for these graphic novels. I always look forward to these to "fill in the blanks" between the movies.
I completely understand your thoughts on this matter and several of the points you made. I personally prefer the end battle of G14 mainly for different reasons, and I actually don't really compare the battles in terms of cutting away that much. However, I do believe the cutting away in G14 is more elegant and stylized than KotM's, and I'll try to explain why.
I completely agree that any Godzilla battle needs that tension between the monsters and the little humans running around below their feet. This is something that, in my opinion, is almost completely missing in both G14 and KotM because, let's face it, we don't really care about the humans. In KotM, I really didn't care when Vivian died (and neither did the characters, but that's besides the point), and I definitely did not care when Emma died. I did care about Serizawa, but he didn't even die in a battle, although I am happy he didn't.
In G14, like you said, there was that scene in the underground egg chamber that was quite long and far from the action, not really adding any tension between the monsters and humans. However, for me, this is what actually keeps me invested in the battle, believe it or not. We have two god-sized creatures throwing down in a city of ruins and fire. Put the humans directly in the battle, and what happens? We get dirt, rubble, and fire thrown at the the audience left and right, as well as ugly, awkward angles of monsters fighting directly above us. I know I'm sounding way to harsh and salty than I really should, but yes, I am referring to KotM's battles. Never once do we get to see these epic monsters in their entirety, throwing each other into buildings and stepping on each others bodies. Nearly every shot is as close to these creature as it can get, resulting in (like I said) awkward, jumbled shots, not to mention the shaky camera. Just once during the fight scenes during KotM, I wanted that beautiful wide shot of Godzilla and Ghidorah, or Mothra and Rodan fighting. This is what takes me out of the battles in this movie. Those shots in G14 that you said were too far away from the battles are actually the kind of wide shots I wanted in KotM, but unfortunately never got.
Sure, G14 definitely needed more of those monster/human interactions. The momentswhere the female MUTO takes notice of the humans are pretty cool, such as the bridge scene, right before the first atomic breath scene, or right before the second atomic breath scene. These parts are well directed and do have some tension, but once again, Ford is not a super emotive or special character, something that could really add some good tension to these moments. I do believe that it's a bit different during the actual battle sequences, however. Like I said before, putting humans between the feet of the monsters can go pretty wrong. Maybe having them be a bit farther away--still within distance of serious danger--and making certain wide shots to where the audience can actually see the both humans and the monsters clearly while also feeling a sense of danger and suspense... maybe that could work (and of course we still have to care about the humans). Overall, I prefer the G14 battle simply because of the direction, cinematography, and action in general... if there isn't a sense of tension between the monsters and humans, there is deffinately a sense if tension between the monsters fighting.
Also, just go gonna mention that this was very well written. You really elaborately explained your thoughts and compared the actual battle scenes in full detail while also staying unbiased, which I appreciate. This really helped me to understand why the KotM battles are better in your eyes.
Gigan! I love Gigan! I love his pincher beak, his laser and his famous and awesome buzzsaw, his hook hands and most of all his roar, he maybe evil but who ever designed him is a genius! I would definitely be him for a week of course fly around and using the buzzsaw too! It could the original or the one from Final wars thier both genius designs!
oooh I don't know which kaiju to choose there is so many cool kaiju to choose from. Toss up between Godzilla1998, Final Wars Gigan, MV King Ghidorah, and MVGodzilla
I became a fan because my brother passed down his figures to me and I just started to like Godzilla as a Whole, Even through the madness we call Zilla I stay with Godzilla and will continue to for as long as I live. Also My favorite Godzilla designs are 1954, 1964, and 2001 those are not it but that doesn't really matter. The First Godzilla Movie I've seen was Godzilla 2000 and that movie continues bringing back memories. I was 4 when I became a big fan and that's it for now.
Either MonsterVerse Godzilla or Heisei Godzilla.
And I know that this technically isn't one of the options, but Rulers of Earth Godzilla would definitely be a contender with MV Godzilla for my top pick.
Godzilla Earth.
I get to sleep all week while inadvertently terraforming a planet in my image. And who the hell is going to stop me?
Wrong forum, will be moved shortly
I would probably either be Gigan (Showa) because he's one of my favorites and I would also fly around in space and stuff, or Mothra (most likely Heisei) because if I come to visit some cities or something hopefully an entire army won't come attack me
Great opinions and comments throughout this thread. No doubt the two top dogs in MonsterVerse are Kong and Godzilla. Godzilla having more history and battles, Kong having an Island to tend to. The info on the internet regarding all plot leak type rumors are very interesting, as well as all the comments I have read. I feel the OP on MosterVerse coming to an end after this installment is over is unfortunately a strong possibility. Personally I hope not though. If this movie does well at the box office where a big chunk of money was made, then maybe it could lead to a possible “rematch” or other battle type scenarios. If there’s a descent storyline to lead the way, then MV may have another installment or two left in the oven. There’s other Monsters that have notable notoriety such as Gigan, Biollante, Destoroyah, Hedorah, Megalon, Gabara, Megaguirus, both Mecha’s and of course we can’t forget Gamera the flying Turtle! Lol Now wouldn’t that be fun to watch! So there are other candidates for a little bit more of MV if and only if this upcoming movie does well. Now it’s been mentioned that G vs K will be extended yet another year! Rumored to be in May of 2021 I think I read somewhere. Geeez!
Tbh, I don't really care if this'll be the last movie in the MonsterVerse. I mean, so far it's been fun, but imo neither K:SI or KotM are up to par with G14, or several of the other Toho movies for that matter. I could see the MonsterVerse becoming too mainstream, which would be a shame considering G's Japanese roots. If this were the case, I'd rather it not continue.
Hopefully Godzilla vs Kong is successful enough that the contract is renewed. Although I don't mind having to go to Toho Godzilla movies but some of my friends might not be interested in them.
Xenotaris With all that's gone down, I wouldn't be surprised i this was the last movie in the MV. And if I recall correctly, the original contract with Toho went up to this year, so unless something changes, this might be it. Might.
I'm just worried that Toho will not allow the monsterverse to continue beyond Godzilla vs Kong
I told you I saw the book on the Barnes and Nobel website!
I hope they do because I want to see more of Behemoth and Methuselah.
KingSalomonMMIV Interesting. It begs the question- if both Godzilla and Kong indeed die (doubtful), is there another creature to carry on such as Mothra? I think that would be too much for fans, but there lots of creatures in the Monsterverse.
Xenotaris, your wording made it sound as if the MonsterVerse won't continue if Godzilla loses, and his death would seem like the only possible reason for the universe not to continue (box office numbers aside).
I'm personally rooting for Kong. However, if I were making the movie, I would have him die after defeating Godzilla. This could help to develop the story in ways no one would expect (Godzilla is defeated and Kong would be dead, so the Titans and flora/fauna would be left without any ruler). Godzilla would still be alive, and this could make for a new, personal journey that he will have to go through; he will have to try to help save the earth while maintaining no domain over the monsters, figuring out how he can prove himself worthy of being king again. This is all just a lot of speculation, but I think it could be really interesting to see if they continue the MonsterVerse.
Sorry but it would be stupid if the writers/producers killed off Godzilla in this battle. And if in the future there’s any other possible upcoming Kong battle type movies, Kong will not be killed off either. Its only when he goes to NY to chase after his woman who’s atop the Empire State Building, will Kong meet his demise. It’s Godzilla that we have to worry about. Some other people (Not in this thread) misinterprets “One will Fall” as death. I’ve heard this before off of other forum platforms and you tube comments.
@KingSalomonMMIV
I never said anything related to godzilla's death, I said win.
It's possible Amazon jumped the gun in updating their release dates without permission from Warner Brothers. It's also possible it was a mistake. Time will tell!
I think the movie phrase “One will Fall” got interpreted as “One will Die! Lol I think a true champion has to experience defeat at least once right? Rocky lost to Apollo before claiming the title in the re-match. I personally just want to see a clean tough battle between the two. No one dies…no one is lamed. The one who falls will be the one who got defeated. That’s all. If MonsterVerse/Legendary does this right and this installment makes a decent chunk of money, then who knows what will come next. Just keep the mighty Godzilla alive ok! We all know how Kong will die. He just chose the wrong girlfriend! lol
As Emily Litella used to say on SNL Weekend Update, "Never mind."
Hard to say, besides getting new figures I gonna go with meeting the guest stars. I’ve only been to two G-Fests and I met Shinji Higuchi (Co-director of Shin Godzilla and Kenpachiro Satsuma (Suit Actor Hedorah, Gigan, Heisei Godzilla). They are really chill and awesome people. Currently I have my Shin Godzilla and Hedorah figure signed
Kong doesn't have to kill Godzilla to beat him. I'm not sure why so many people think that defeat = death.
Biggmonsterman666, apparently your wish just came true.
wtf is happening right now?
Kong better not win a second time! I sincerely hope the Monsterverse continues because I want to see more of Monsterverse Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, and King Ghidorah.
...well that just happened.
Yes it's been rumored that one will fall but the storyline portrays them also teaming up to fight some villain titans. It does appear that Kong will win based on substantial rumors, but I doubt he will kill off Godzilla. There are too many other battles the mighty Godzilla can pursue such as Destoroyah, Biollante, Gigan and or one of the two Mecha’s. I sure hope the upcoming movie redeems itself in the box office for Legendary. If it is a big hit and a money maker, then maybe another one or two movies could be a possibility for other battles? I wouldn’t say the last Godzilla:King of the Monsters was a flop though. Sure it fell way below Legendary’s desired $ figure, but after they tallied up the overseas amount it made, it actually didn’t do that bad. NOT GOOD, but definitely didn’t lose any money that’s for sure. Long live the King…And sorry…It’s not Kong!
I first liked Godzilla when watching Godzilla final wars at the time I was 7 years old and was in grade 1. At that time I was very bored watching shark and crocodile movie and finally my father bought a Godzilla VCD final 2 pieces. While I was watching I was very impressed with Godzilla.Has a very good atomic breath, strength, agility, and intelligence in fighting
@Monster_Zero 2112 I had already pre-ordered mine from Amazon, but the release date has since been changed to 2021. We can always hope for a change.
He looks really awesome! I like his design.
Sounds fun.
Um, I don’t know about that because I found it on the Barnes and Noble website and you’re able to order it. But I might be wrong or not. I don’t know.
This was one of my favorite topics and it’s kinda like this topic. Godzilla is not for Disney
True. It could mean that one of them will be defeated.
I saw the costume contest on YouTube and they looked really cool.
Probably delayed, so even the mild spoilers aren’t known.
Fall doesn’t always mean die.
