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okay guys first I choosed mechagodzilla 3 because Godzilla had a hard time destroying him i watched the movie tokyo and aganist and Godzilla was getting fucked up buy mechagodzilla and third Kaizer Ghidorah was like a tough enemy too godzilla Godzilla allmost died! so i putted Kazier for number 1 and also i fixed the list because motra was not a big threat too godzilla
But who's to say Final Wars Godzilla isn't just as capable of destroying the world on his own merits? What about production crew from Final Wars stating the Godzilla in that movie was the strongest version of all of them? For that matter, who's to say Showa Godzilla isn't stronger than either one? See, it's these blind assumptions and over-analyzation that start the goofiest debates. For example the only thing I really agree with on your list is The Oxygen Destroyer. Everything else is hit or miss depending on how you look at it. I could make the argument that the Showa MechaGodzilla is his strongest opponent, but there's finite evidence to support one era of monsters is stronger than another. Just fan conjecture. (Which, I'll be honest, I part of the fun of fan forums, but I've grown tired of it, personally.)
i think 2 hours would be just fine for the movie. i dont believe they announced how long it is
I realize this is all opinion, but I think EVERYONE will be able to agree that the following list is much more accurate as to who Godzilla's strongest enemies are and why. So here goes.
Number One - The Oxygen Destroyer
Why? - This weapon, created by human beings, is the one thing that has killed Godzilla outright without him even standing a chance. Many will argue that it's not a true enemy because it's a device, but it's because it's a human made weapon that makes it Godzilla's most powerful foe.
Again, it's the only thing that's killed him outright and not one of the other Kaiju can boast that honor.
Number Two - Destoroyah
Why? - Because as was stated by DURP004, Destoroyah was able to kick Godzilla's ass for most of their fight even when Godzilla was at his strongest. If Godzilla was not in critical mass, he would have been killed without a doubt.
Number Three - Mechagodzilla II
Why? - Because this is not only the largest of the Mechagodzilla incarnations. It's not only the strongest. But this version actually came closest to killing Godzilla. Had it not been for Fire Rodan sacrificing his life energy to revitalize Godzilla's secondary brain, Godzilla would have been killed.
Number Four - King Ghidorah (Heisei)
Why? - This is the single largest enemy that Godzilla has faced, and to be honest I think that his capabilities in combat were downplayed in the film. At 150 meters tall, King Ghidorah easily trumps Godzilla in sheer physical might, and would not have so easily lost his fight with Godzilla had he been a monster in control of his own actions. The fact that the futurians were controlling him actually weakened him in my opinion because humans don't have any sort of knowledge or understanding of Kaiju thought processes. King Ghidorah would have fought better on its own.
Number Five - Spacegodzilla
Why? - This monster's ability to create and draw power from crystals makes it one of Godzilla's most enduring foes. Had Godzilla not had the help of Moguera to figure out where Spacegodzilla's power was being drawn from, he likely would have been defeated. Godzilla is powerful and has a lot of stamina, but he doesn't have a potentially infinte power source.
Number Six - Biollante
Why? - Biollante, despite being a cross between a plant and Godzilla, is one of Godzilla's largest and heaviest foes. At 120 meters, she's as tall as Spacegodzilla, Mechagodzilla II, and Destoroyah. Godzilla, still only 80 meters tall at the time, won the first fight against the rose form without too much difficulty. But later, against the larger and more powerful monster form, he got his ass kicked. He had both his left hand and his left shoulder sqewered by Biollante's vines, and only managed to really put a hurting on Biollante when he fired his heat ray into her mouth. Had he not done that, he likely would have been defeated outright.
Number Seven - Kaizer Ghidorah
Why? - Despite its ability to royally own Godzilla, the monster itself was, in my honest opinion, a very contrived and poory thought out character. The transformation from Monster X to Kaizer Ghidorah was nothing but a Deus Ex Machina in my eyes for Godzilla to begin really losing to make his final victory more dramatic. All of Godzilla's otehr more powerful foes beat him down without needing a transformation or some other kind of special power to force them to have the edge for dramatic effect. When they held the edge, they held the edge.
Number Eight - King Ghidorah (Showa)
Why? - Of all the monsters Godzilla faced in the Showa era, this is the one he was never faced with on his own. Every time he defeated Ghidorah, Godzilla had help and vey much needed it. Further proof lies in the movie Destroy All Monsters when Ghidorah manages to hold off Earth's monsters by himself and still put up a good fight. Had it just been Godzilla and one or two others, Ghidorah may have lasted even longer and fought that much better.
Number Nine - Mechagodzilla (Showa)
Why? - This monster was able to make Godzilla bleed more than any other Showa era enemy. Even Gigan, cool as he was, could not make Godzilla bleed as much as Mechagodzilla did, nor did Gigan push Godzilla to the brink as Mechagodzilla did. This monster is, and remains to this day, one of the Showa era Godzilla's most powerful foes.
Number Ten - Humanity
Why? - Because no matter what Godzilla throws at it, humanity always bounces back. It was humanity that created the Oxygen Destroyer. That brought King Kong to Japan to fight Godzilla. That beseeched the natives of Infant Island to convince Mothra to fight Godzilla. That caused the freeze which forced Godzilla into hibernation at the end of Son of Godzilla. That cuased the pollution that allowed Hedorah to grow and mutate to become a powerful foe that Godzilla had to defeat with the help of humanity. That woke King Cesar to help Godzilla face Mechagodzilla. That created the sonic weapon that helped Godzilla topple Titanosaurus after he dealt with Mechagodzilla again. That lured him to the volcano to lock him away (albeit temporarily) in Return of Godzilla. That created Biollante. That created King Ghidorah and Mecha King Ghidorah. That created Mechagodzilla II. That created Moguera who helped Godzilla face Spacegodzilla (despite being made to fight Godzilla himself). That created the Super X III which was one of the true heroes for defeating Destoroyah. That created Kiryu. That gave Godzilla Kaizer power to defeat Kaizer Ghidorah.
Humanity might be the bane of his existence, but it's also earned a spot on the list for its own reasons and endurance. As much as humanity hated Godzilla, they themselves posed one of the greates threats to his life on numerous occasions.
Many people might wonder why certain other monsters were not on the list. That's because I was going by monsters that pushed Godzilla to the brink, or should have been able to do so more than they were able to in the films. Most of the other Kaiju, cool as they were, posed no such threat to Godzilla as those on my list. Again, it's a list created based on opinion, but an honest one and one that examined the monsters on it critically before choosing them. If you'd like to argue, then make your own list and explain it thoroughly. If you just list monsters without explanation, we know you're just listing them because you like them. In my opinion, a biased opinion based on personal entertainment rather than objective analysis means nothing when creating a list like this.
And for GMAN2887, Kaizer power Godzilla in Final Wars could only access his red spiral ray after the power had been transfered. Critical Mass Godzilla could have destroyed the world in either an explosion or his meltdown. No matter which way you look at it, Critical Mass Godzilla is far more powerful and dangerous than Final Wars Godzilla, even with his Kaizer power.
Stupid thing posted twice so ignore this post.
The problem with making these lists is which version of what monster are we talking about here? And then of course that's typically measured by its battle(s) with Godzilla and no one agrees which one is the most powerful. Who is to say the Heisei Godzilla at critical mass is any stronger than Final Wars Godzilla with his Kaiser powers? It'll never have a definate answer. (And truthfully, they're debates I grow weary of after all these years.)
Destroyah should be much higher on this list, arguably in the #1 spot. He took on Godzilla at his strongest and still was winning the fight until Godzilla hit critical, and was releasing so much heat that even his spines were melting. Take note that this was the Godzilla who's meltdown was shown to be so catastrophic it could potentially destroy the whole world, and Destroyah was beating him till the very end.
You have every mechaGodzilla except mechagodzilla 2, which was the closest of all the MechaGodzillas, and any monster in general to killing Godzilla.
SpaceGodzilla isn't on this list even though it took both Godzilla and Moguera to beat him. He's the only monster in the heisei era that Godzilla needed help beating. Even though Rodan and Godzilla both fought MechaG they fought at different times so it's not the same, SpaceGodzilla 1v1ed Godzilla beat him, inprisoned his son then took on both him and moguera destroying Moguera in the process of getting beaten. He easily takes a top 5 spot for hardest enemies.
King Ghidorah isn't on this list either, and I shouldn't have to point out all the reasons as to why he should be.
Personally I don't think Megaguirus should be on this list, as he was just a basic enemy, nothing special when compared to most others, the same being said for Monster X.
1. Kumonga- I'm not sure how big of a fan following this monster has but apparently it's big enough to land her in 4 different movies. Giant spider it's just so unimaginatve and stupid it should have showed up once, but nope 4 times, and 1 time she actually gave Godzilla a decent fight. Should never have been a monster, to begin with but 4 movies with her was just ridiculous.
2. Kamacuras- This could be 1 or 2, between Kamacuras and Kumonga for the same reasons. Very stupid concept, easily beaten but still came back, I think every fight with him against any other monster lasted less than a minute.
3. Mothra- Just too strong. It's a stupid moth, but she literally never loses, and if she does die to make it more insulting the baby, that's right the caterpillar ends up beating Godzilla with string.
4. Ghidorah- I like this monster, but he appears way to often. A few less movies and he wouldn't make the list, but seems like almost every other movie Toho feels the need to include Ghidora, making him less of a menacing arch nemesis, as a basic enemy that gets beaten but never gives up. I'm pretty sure Ghidorah has been killed more than any other Godzilla enemy.
5. MechaGodzilla- Same reason as Ghidorah, a good enemy but just shows up way to often, and mostly in sets of 2. That's just too much MechaG to include especially when some of the series only include 6 movies.
I've always been different than most G-Fans in my opinions, so my list might actually scare some of you. Here goes.
Top of the list first!
1. King Ghidorah - This monster has a strong following, but in my mind he's not yet earned the right to be called Godzilla's "arch nemesis." In my mind, that title still belongs to Mechagodzilla as it's the monster who has come the closest to killing Godzilla. Had it not been for Fire Rodan in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II, Godzilla would have been killed if Mechagodzilla had finished its attack unimpeded. King Ghidorah has never been able to push Godzilla to the brink as Mecha-G has, and in all honesty despite how badass he looks, he's not in any way Godzilla's most powerful or most dangerous foe.
2. Hedorah - This monster also has a strong following in some respects, but I have never been a fan of its strange and overly thematic design. It's never been a strong contender for Godzilla's most popular or dangerous foe, but remains overrated in my opinion.
3. Gigan - This guy is just weird. Chainsaw chest. Meathook hands and feet. Swordfish fins on his back. Lizard-like tail. Cyclops' eye piece. Just weird. I've never been a fan of Gigan, and I think that most of his following is reaching when they try to describe how cool and unique he is.
4. King Kong - King Kong is an American monster, and was never in a position to challenge Godzilla for any reason at any time. The only reason that Toho went through with the movie in the first place was because of the popularity of both monsters at that time. Today, a rematch would be nigh impossible without forcing contrived and over the top circumstances to scale up Kong to Godzilla's size. Even for the original film, as fun as it was to watch, Kong should have gotten his ass handed to him in each encounter.
5. Mechagodzilla - As fond of him as I am and despite him still holding the title of Godzilla's arch nemesis in my opinion, I still think Mecha-G himself is slightly overrated which is why he's at the bottom of the list. A lot of his weapons and ablities are somewhat boring, and the limits of technology have almost never been applied to him save for a few brief moments in Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II and Godzilla against Mechagodzilla. The damage he received from Godzilla's attacks were minimal, and he almsot never suffered any serious damage phsyically or metaphysically from Godzilla's thermonuclear breath. Special coating or not, the concussive force would be enough to damage him no matter his armor.
So that's my list.
1.The Son Of Godzilla
2. Godzilla vs. Hedorah
3.Godzilla 1998
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I truely beleive mothra is WAY over rated in all of the movies.
I sorta wish this wasn't limited to Godzilla films so I could write Bagan's name 5 times.
But I'm happy Bagan isn't in a Godzilla movie and will never, ever be in one.
Otherwise, I don't mind any of the monsters in the Godzilla series really. I don't mind that Mothra, MechaGodzilla and King Ghidorah are overused, to me it just makes them "series regulars." I enjoy the monsters even in the weakest Godzilla films to some extent-- it's not their fault they were written into poor films. I don't know. Other than Bagan I harbor little to no hate for the Godzilla monster cast.
5. King Kong
4. Mothra
3. Mothra
2. Mothra
1. Mothra
I don't know guys I'm getting a bad filling on this now . The longer it takes the more it fills like the Godzilla that ran around NewYork :(
5. Kamacuras
4. Jet Jaguar
3. Kumonga
2. Megalon
1. Hedorah
1. Megalon 2. Megaguirus 3. Hedorah 4. Gabera 5. Gigan (hate him so much)
Similar to this equation no doubt....
Since I live in Washington I'd love to see some scenes in Seattle. I can just imagine Godzilla stepping on KeyArena and toppling over the Space Needle. Of course the Columbia Center would have to come down too lol. Maybe a scene in Vancouver, BC or Portland as well, let the entire West Coast feel his destruction.
I don't see this plan coming to fruition. Legendary, depending how well this upcoming movie does, will have rights for a while, and I doubt they'd go with a Hedorah style sequel.
That and Godzilla vs the smogmonster came out over 42 years ago with the character going through a lot of changes. To make a direct sequel to that movie with all the time and movies between them would be a joke.
I still dont get his body being purple and he,s not going too resamble as barney But dark purple is okay
So Godzilla is going too get help Hmm i guess Godzilla needs help sometimes
The name is not Deathla, HE IS A SCRAPPED IDEA. Banno said the name was Hedorah, not Deathla. Learn to read.
Better than the shit I draw XD
Okay so he is going too be dark purple
@KYERO, Hmm very good points, ultimately he isnt as powerful as what created him, but shouldn't he be at least close to it? If he is supposed to be a force of nature, and in the end, nature can't be controlled, I thought he should devastating beyond measure. If he isnt as powerful as a nuclear bomb, does that mean, using one will kill him? Or should kill him?
Hmmm... I think Banno is a little too attached to his Hedorah creature.
Godzilla vs. Hedorah in 1970 was an interesting flick, but even Ishiro Honda told Banno that he had "ruined Godzilla" with that movie. It remains a very entertaining piece because of the effects and suit acting, but otherwise remains one of the worst and least popular Godzilla films to date.
I think Banno should give the Hedorah thing a rest already. The toxic pollution of our world has been well established since long before his time and it's not going away anything soon. We know the consequences of it already. Nothing he can do with a sequel to GvH is going to add to our sense of impending dread.
Godzilla's atomic breath is his ultimate weapon, but it's far from being a "mobile nuke."
The attack is nothing more than a concentrated beam of radiation. Deadly? Yes. Mobile Nuke? No. That beam is capable of almost instantaneously overloading the biological systems of anything living that it comes into contact with. If they stay true to the original, it will also have incendiary properties because of the extreme heat that it generates. Given that fact, it will have the effect of a bomb because the explosion will help spread the radiation beyond the point of impact. However, let's look at what the original nuclear bombs were capable of.
The first nuclear bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, Japan on August 6th 1945. It's total vaporization area measured about one half mile in diameter. Total destruction was within a one mile diameter. Severe blast damage was as far as two miles in diameter. Within a two and a half mile diameter, everything that was flammable and not vaporized immediately ignited and sent blazes running to about the three mile diameter range. Nagasaki was bombed a few days later on August 9th, but received almost identical treatment.
Here's the scary thing though. Physicists estimate that the bombs only used about 1/10th of a percent of their respective total destructive capabilities.
As powerful as Godzilla is, he's nothing compared to the weapons that created him.
The movie will, hopefully, do well and capture his destructive power. However, there is nothing that even the most creative minds can do to alter the fact that the bombs which created Godzilla are infinitely more powerful than the monster himself is. So, this is why his attack is far from being a "mobile nuke," but I understand what you were trying to convey even if it was a little out there.
I definitely want to see an awe inspiring and massively destructive Godzilla as much as anyone does, as I'm one of the most hardcore G-fans out there. But we need to remember where Godzilla's limits are as well because if we lose sight of them, then the monster becomes underwhelming when we see him on the screen. If you compare him to a nuclear bomb, whether you know it or not, you're setting yourself up for disappointment when he makes his debut on screen on May 16th, 2014.
I became a Godzilla fan after watching several movies. My favorite was Godzilla X Destotoyah, which was double sided with Godzilla X Spacegodzilla.
lol i know he,s head is pruple weird
Purple!? he's GODZILLA not barney,he better be charcoal black the color he's always ben.
i think he may have a crocodilian origin (by the way im new here. nice to meet you all)
Listen my brothers I have scene the new teaser trailer and let me tell you HE. HAS. RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Godzilla looks amassing he is taller than he has ever been and his roar is "sniff" "sniff" "sob" beautiful. I say the leaked teaser tralier and let me tell you it was incredible. Trust me if there is a tralier for godzilla for hobbit and is a pretty big IF then must go see him in all his glory. Because he is back and gareth Edwards has given him an image worthy of his roots.
P. S. if you don't believe me look at the site that had the godzilla tralier on it, it's not there any more but just look and you'll see if I'm telling the truth http://www.movieweb.com/movie/godzilla-2014/trailer
i found their website. they are huge
