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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumHeisei series . . . kinda sucked

@NPinkham19

You're actually not alone with that sentiment. A lot of older fans these days really can't stand the Heisei series and their opinions mirror your own: Godzilla '84 and Godzilla vs. Biollante were great films, but Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah was a mess and the following three were bland if not downright terrible.

Godzilla vs. Destroyah seems to be a movie most fans wet themselves over because of Godzilla's burning state and Destroyah relating back to the Oxygen Destroyer. I join them in that pant-wetting, to be perfectly honest, but a lot of it is, admittedly, from nostalgia. Godzilla vs. Destroyah has just as many script problems as Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah and, contrary to some people's belief, is not one of the best movies of the series. I think this meme adequately describes most fans' feelings about Godzilla vs. Destroyah on some sub-concious level:

Now I don't think Godzilla vs. Destroyah is a bad movie. As a matter of fact it's still one of my more favorite films of the series. That said... this meme isn't too far off. (And to be fair I think it's a better movie than Revenge of the Sith.)

But now that I've spent time lamenting the problems with the Heisei series, I also want to say I don't think it's as bad as some older fans believe. Yes there's a lot of underdeveloped potential, some poorly realized ideas and messy storytelling, but the movies still work 70-80% of the time.

The ideas were still more daring than what had come out of the 1970s. The photography was outstanding. the lighting and shots were typically gorgeous. The Godzilla suits were, and probably still are, the standard for Toho suitmation. Some of the character arcs were intruiging and there's some fun battles in the first half of the series.

It's no Showa era, but I always felt it was an adequate, if not logical progression of the series.

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4KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer not coming on Feb 7th, but Feb 14th instead.

Thats fine with me I thought FEB 7th was to early and if FEB 14th goes by and theres still no trailer Im fine with that as well, cuz Im not really expecting another trailer till the 300 sequel comes out.

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4KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer not coming on Feb 7th, but Feb 14th instead.

Thats fine with me I thought FEB 7th was too early, and plus If FEB 14th goes by and theres still no trailer Im fine with that too, cuz I have not expected a second trailer till the 300 sequel come out.

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petedj06Godzilla 2014 ForumAnother New Godzilla DVD Set to Look Forward To... Godzilla: The Series!!!!

I remember watching this as a kid, and I liked it. Maybe I'll give it another go. I remember liking it way more than the movie, and as a kid, i liked the movie. (anything with the name Godzilla on it was "good" to me back then)

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petedj06Godzilla ForumHeisei series . . . kinda sucked

I respectully disagree. I get what you're saying, but I think that the Showa era was the worst overall, mostly because everything after Ghidora, the Three-headed Monster is too cornball for me (not that the later movies in other series were not corny, just not in the same way). I'm also not a fan of Millenium, 2000 and GMK were good, but that's it. 

Destroyah's my second favorite (after 54), but you are right, SpaceGodzilla (despite having my favorite badguy) is one stinker of a movie. Mothera's not much better. Biollante is one of my absolute faveorites though.

I agree that all three series start off strong and taper off. I guess I just disagree with your view on Destroyah, which elivates the entire Heisei era for me.

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4KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumHow will Godzilla 2014 die?

Probably the same way the killed him in the very first film.

But I would much preffered if he lived and the chaos still continued just like in Cloverfield.

 

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4KaijuGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer going too be On Feb 14?

Im pretty fine with that, I thought Feb 7th was too early.

but FEB 14 sounds great.

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King_of_ZombiesGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer going too be On Feb 14?

New trailer: 1:50 - 2:00 minutes.

Valentines day: 24 Hours.

I think we can do both things at the same time.

also, there are two kind of movies: the pink-girly-romantic-cliche film, where everyone goes just for kisses and stuff; and the good movies that we want to see without any distraction, Godzilla is the second one.

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MikeyNamezGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer going too be On Feb 14?

Were talking about like a 230-3 minute trailer lol.  if dudes are that desperate they can go into the bathroom and watch it at dinner or where ever they are at.  if the movie was opening on Valentines day thats a different story

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Danzilla93Godzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

As ugly as the Musukogoji (1967) suit is, I've always had a soft spot for it!  My pick is an odd one.  in 1974, an ugly as all get out publicity suit was created by Toho for public appearences.  It was neer intended to be used in a film, but as the 70s films got cheaper and cheaper, they were forced to utalize it in Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla and Terror of Mechagodzilla.  It can be seen in the Fake Godzilla vs Anguirus scenes and the first GvsMG battle before Mechagodzilla sheds his skin, and in the last scene of Terror of Mechagodzilla where Godzilla wades into the sea for the last time in the Showa series.  The suit just has this unappealing, somewhat disturbing toothy grin that always rubbs me the wrong way.  He looks like Gwynplaine from The Man Who Laughs. :/

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npinkham19Godzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

no doubt about it, Son of Godzilla but I also HATE mechagodzilla 1993. They reused the suit in space godzilla but refitted the legs and head better.

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Akio123Godzilla ForumWorst Kaiju?

Hedorah...Hedorah...HEDORAH! A walking pile of pollution with eyes?? Seriously? OMG I think that monster is dumb and so overrated..but thats just me. 

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GIYGASGodzilla ForumWill anyone miss him

Why did you post the same topic twice?

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Smaug The MagnificentGodzilla ForumA compromise for fans

@AKAGI

Yeah i love this kind of thing simply because it brings a new perspective on what we like to whatch

@DOGGIEZILLA

I understand,  but thats why these are called shorts arnt they?

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petedj06Godzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

Didn't like the Son of Godzilla suit, and I know I'm in the minority here, but I didn't like the GMK suit. In fact, I didn't like any of the suits in that movie. They looked like a bunch of old men with bad backs. Slouched over and awkward. I liked the movie, but not the suits. 

But yeah, almost any from the late 60's - 70's were not that great IMHO.

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dopepopeGodzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

Yea, I was going to write that same thing. That the suits in GxMekaG films were pretty similar to the GxMegalon suit, just not as cute and annoying. They actually looked really cool. And When MechaGodzilla was in his Godzilla skin costume, THAT Godzilla looked REALLY cool too!

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

Yeah, the Final Wars Godzilla looked a little weird. Too humanoid/skinny and the lower jaw looked too thin-- like it was going to break off or something...

And I'll take suit/design from Son of Godzilla over the Cute-zilla from Godzilla vs. Megalon. I'm glad they changed the head on that suit for the MechaGodzilla movies.

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Danzilla93Godzilla 2014 Forumgodzilla awakening graphic novel ready for pre order

It sure is!  DC and Legendary Comics.  I don't think it will be out until early May.

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Danzilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer not coming on Feb 7th, but Feb 14th instead.

Lord knows us lonely nerds need a reason to look forward to Valentine's Day.  Let's hope this trailer is worth it. 

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ArmageddonGodzilla 2014 ForumHow will Godzilla 2014 die?

A monster much larger than himself? So, if he fights a mountain-sized Kaiju, he'll perish? Not gonna happen, bro. Well, maybe. Who knows? Godzilla's power is inconsistent.

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dinoboy22Godzilla 2014 ForumHow will Godzilla 2014 die?

quite the contrary this has been talked about quite a lot in the past. i recently posted a topic on this myself

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Smaug The MagnificentGodzilla 2014 ForumHow will Godzilla 2014 die?

I dout he would die in the first movie but if he were to be killed in the sequel, it would probably be due to a monster much larger than himself.

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ArmageddonGodzilla 2014 ForumHow will Godzilla 2014 die?

Simple. He won't. If you remember Gareth Edwards' words, he said that the story is "Man vs. Nature". A fight you can't win. I imagine Godzilla swimming off to the ocean, to hibernate. Besides, if they kill him off, people will view him as Zilla's successor.(At least the non-fans)

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ArmageddonGodzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

I think that the Godzilla from the 1998 movie is the ugliest. Oh, wait. That wasn't Godzilla, that was Zilla!  But seriously, the Godzilla from Son of Godzilla looks like a turd. Also, I think the Final Wars Goji looks awesome.

 

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dopepopeGodzilla ForumUgliest Godzilla?

The GxMegalon suit always irked me. Looks too cute. Like a kitten face or something. And GFinalWars suit, the head was too small and bird like for my tastes. I definitely see what you mean with the Son of G suit. Strange positioning of the eyes to the other features. I kinda like it tho. 

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4KaijuGodzilla ForumWill anyone miss him
I'll miss Godzilla in his 50's for sure, but thankfully he wont exactly be 60 till November 3rd. so I got like 9 more months left to enjoy him in his 50's
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doggiezillaGodzilla 2014 ForumMy Rendition of the Muto kaiju

Good art work and you are a good artist.

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Daikaiju DanielleGodzilla ForumWill anyone miss him

*Ahem* 1954-20--

 

GODZILLA IS NEVER DEAD.

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godzillafan1995Godzilla ForumWill anyone miss him

what about 2004 fw, 54 and 55 godzilla, do they not count.

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MegaguirusGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Godzilla trailer not coming on Feb 7th, but Feb 14th instead.

As a girl in the Godzilla fandom, I've only found one other person who even remotely likes things related to kaiju. Then again, I'm too shy to go ask people, haha. The eternal dilemma. 

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