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Yeah I see that
No if you look close at the lower claw you see there is no other finger and also his claws are white so even with the smoke you would be able to see it and you cant
Sorry I did not see that other thread
No he doesnt, its just the way hes putting his fingers that makes it look like it, and also theres alot of smoke around him too which makes one of his hands obsecured
I am very very very very very shocked that MUTO resembles the Cloverfield monster as much as it does. I am not saying this is a bad thing, it's just an obvious thing. Creature design takes months for a film like this. The process is slow and the creators take great care in all the aspects of a monster. MUTO's design is CLEARLY taken directly from what Abrams created Cloverfield, a movie that is very much still fresh in he minds of people who fancy themselves on giant monster movies.
They could be fixing them for re-release. I'm not sure it's possible.
Movie title: Godzilla
Not Godzillas.
I think it'd be a really generic idea and it would come off as uncreative to the general public.
Quote: I personally think these early screeners are talking about The Muto monsters. Remember the toy leak came "after" this 20 minute screening. I think that these people were just wowed with the BIG Muto in the 20 minute clip, since they had no idea what it looked like including 99% of us at that time. The key to remember is the 20 min screening was "before" the toy
-Then why were they asked to keep it a secret from Gareth Edwards? The embargo itself will end on the 17th of this month, as the pictures from Sunday were only leaks. It makes no sense to treat such a thing like a spoiler if we already know that Godzilla will be fighting other monsters, let alone when the toy embargo ends in about a week and a half.
When they said they were sworn to secrecy about things my first thought was they were protecting the identity of Godzilla's main foe. I know we've been ove rthis a thousand times - there aren't any other classic Toho monsters in this film excet Godzilla - but I'm starting to think that's not true and we will see modern re-imaginings of some classic monsters. We've already seen a good candidate for Rodan diving into the ocean so...yeah...I think when they jump in they're going to get an up close and personal look at Rodan for the first timeas he takes on Godzilla.
Considering we are starting a new fiscal quarter, this is totally natural.
I'm sure if you searched other toys on other places you'd notice the same thing.
Don't wanna be a jerk, but Ifukube never intended Godzilla's theme to be even called Godzilla's theme. It has anohter name-- and Ifukube's music is not suppose to be used anymore because of his retirement/death.
Do I wanna hear the actual ifukube music in the new movie? Yes. Its like hearing the Robocop theme in the new Robocop movie, it helped it quite a bit. Just that little bit of nostalgia can go far, but I'm fairly certain there will be no Ifukube music in this film.
As far as music in films, I find if you're going for scary ambience, its best to have no music at all. The original Alien had no music and it is, still in my opinion, probably one of the best creature films ever made-- and I think Prometheus could have benefitted from toning the theatrics down a bit. I'm not saying take all the music out, but for real suspense, true suspense, music is not needed.
Too many sound tracks feel like they are holding our hands, telling us what to feel at any one moment in the film-- I have a problem with that. But then again, in other areas, I love good music during fight scenes and such-- just not during 'suspenseful moments'.
Its all subjective and I'm sure people will disagree with me, but I do feel like hollywood hams up the music thing a bit too much.
thanks for the feedback guys!
i wouldnt say that i'm as good as matt frank though haha LOL :D
Looking at it, design-wise, I don't know if it's just me, but the way I'm seeing it though, it's like, elements of different creatures. Take the "hands". The way it supports itself is very Orga, yet slim-line like the aliens from Independence Day with the multiple appendages, and the way it's arched over is rather Cloverfield...anyone see where I'm coming from?
I personally think these early screeners are talking about The Muto monsters. Remember the toy leak came "after" this 20 minute screening. I think that these people were just wowed with the BIG Muto in the 20 minute clip, since they had no idea what it looked like including 99% of us at that time. The key to remember is the 20 min screening was "before" the toy
Guys, we already have a thread on this exact scene and the red smoke right here:
http://www.godzilla-movies.com/community/forums/topic/32157
I'm not going to close this one because there's already plenty replies to it, but please be mindful of where to put your thoughts and when its necessary to make a new thread. Just because you have a new idea on a past thread doesn't justify making a new one.
Just a reminder that we're trying to keep things a little more organized and a little less cluttered around here. Thanks.
Its a theory bro... He can speculate if he wants to. If there is a major spoiler involved (which there is), it is obviously more than just showing Godzilla or not.
^Exactly. Michiuru Oshima never remixed Ifukube's Godzilla theme and fans tend to cite that as one of the most perfect themes for Godzilla. Desplat doesn't need or have to imitate Ifukube in order to succeed.
HARGER - I disagree. Ifukube's themes have been left out of plenty of Godzilla movies and they all did just fine. One of the most famous examples is Return of Godzilla, or Godzilla 1985 for those who don't know that they're the same movie. Ifukube had nothing to do with that film, yet it remains one of the best Godzilla films in the entire franchise.
Desplat described his score as "non-stop fortissimo, with lots of brass, Japanese drums, and electric violin."
For those who don't understand music terminology, "fortissimo" means "very loud." Basically when they're pounding the crap out of the drums, drilling the strings with the bow on violins and cellos and such, and basically doing what they can to play as loud as they can. Japanese drums and electric violin is kind of interesting, and the electriv violin especially has caught my interest. I can't say I know how he'll make use of it, but we'll find out!
I think the score will kick ass!
AGGRESSIVEKAIJU45 - We actually DO know what color his atomic breath will be. It's been confirmed by more than one source, including the toys, that it's going to be blue.
The only two reasons behind that glow are either fire, or a flare, as stated by KAIJUFALL3 in the main post.
The last quote means absolutely nothing as far as what the final scene depicts. All it says is that the teaser trailer gave us a glimpse of Godzilla for the purpose of giving us a glimpse at Godzilla. Nothing more. The teaser trailer where we see Godzilla during the Halo jump is obviously made only for that teaser, and the real scene will show something different.
It truly is as simple as that RF.
What you're doing with these quotes is you're trying to force your own desires and wishes to see something that you consider awesome like a Godzilla vs. Godzilla battle into them, and you're misinterpreting the information that's being provided. It's a very common mistake. Also, quotes aren't facts. They're quotes. Facts are literally "indisputable" pieces of information, and a quote can be disputed all day every day.
Observe! (please ;P)
"We also learned a plot point that makes the film 400% more awesome." That's an opinion, and it's got absoutely no meaning whatsoever except to say that the person who it comes from thought the movie would be 400x more epic than they originally expected based on what they saw in the footage. Does that mean there's another Godzilla? Absolutely not. Where you're getting that idea from? I have no idea.
The second quote simply states that Gareth asked them not to talk about the monsters, but this has been the case since the beginning. Ever since the 2012 comic con, details about the Mutos have been hidden and asked to remain confidential. It's nothing new.
The third quote also says nothing about another Godzilla. All it says is that in Gareth's opinion, watching a movie with a monster like Godzilla, most people want to see it fight something other than humans. That's all it says. Gareth believes that most people want to watch monster vs. monster. However, what else exists in the movie besides Godzilla? Muto monsters. There is nothing in that quote to say that there is another Godzilla in there.
The fourth quote, as I stated already, simply states that the teaser trailer's Halo drop scene is different than what's actually in the final movie. That is nothing new. Lots of trailers show scenes that don't make it into the final movie. Again, there is nothing to say that another Godzilla is in the movie in that fourth quote.
The picture you posted just shows a big, flat, red claw/spike of some kind. Does it bear a resemblance to Zilla's spines? Yes, but where are the rest of them? Given the angle, if it were Zilla or another Godzilla, then you would have to see the rest of them since there is a bit of symmetry to both creature's spines. There aren't any other spines/spikes in that picture. The chances it's Godzilla are pretty much zero.
What's strange in that flare scene is that you hear the flares, but that's it. When a 350 foot monster's that close, you hear it. 100% convinced it's for the effect for tthe trailer, and the movie will be different with sound added in...unless Godzilla's wearing sneakers? :)
Hmm... I don't think that's what's happening, but allow me to please explain my opinion.
Godzilla isn't the type to 'chase' an enemy. I think that night scene with the flares is just the soldiers trying to figure out what the hell Godzilla is. I think that this scene is probably part of the 1999 sequence and is his first major appearance on land after swimming between the ships and causing the tidal wave in the trailer. The soldiers are likely just trying to light him up so everyone can see him in the darkness and figure out what he is so they can start working on trying to bring him down.
That's my opinion anyway.
I don't believe Godzilla is going to 'chase' the Mutos. There has been no confirmation that there is any kind of deep link between the two outside of the metaphorical. Honestly speaking I doubt Godzilla will share any relations with the Mutos whatsoever, and that the 'link' between them is, in my opinion, nothing more than the idea that they possibly share a point of origin in the nuclear realm. But outside of that, I doubt there's going to be any significant link between them that would cause Godzilla to 'chase' the Mutos.
But again, this is just my opinion on the matter.
Fixed ;) and is a really good sketch, I like the tail.
I think the winged Muto is the smaller of the two. The 8 legged Muto is apparently supposed to be the brute in this case
i think he's saying since the muto glows, the red flares the soldiers are shooting are trying to imitate the MUTO's glow, so its basically a Godzilla and muto chasing eachother to bring attention to one another
godzilla and slattern are of probable equal size. Striker eureka is screwed. godzilla would beat slattern from the atomic breath.
wow!! just as good as matt frank!
slattern is only like what around 5,000 tons or something like that? Godzilla has been over half a million tons and has slapped around monsters bigger than himself, king ghidorah comes to mind. however slattern takes up more space than godzilla, in fact the new godzilla is only about as tall as raiju, and yet he weighs a hell of alot more. simply put, Godzilla is incredibly dense and strong, slattern wouldn't be able to budge him! and then theres durabilility, which goes to godzilla, duh, and of course his nuclear abilities. godzilla would win without even trying!
I'm not talking about him glowing re I'm just saying that this might be what happens in the movie
It's been speculated that the 8 legged muto isn't the big boss monster for a while. It's the flying 1 that is getting all the attention, and is thought to hold that title. A lot of Godzilla's most popular friends and foes are flying(Rodan Ghidrah, mothra) so a homage would most likely take form from that monster.
godzilla has given us times to cry in the 90's era. i wouldn't be suprised. makes for a better movie at times.
Well they did say something along the lines of Godzilla fighting SOMETHING. And that is why I have doubts about the big surprise being the 8 legged Muto, because we already know what it looks like
Godzilla farted over a fire and POOF! there you have it....
i'm definetely gonna see 300 2. dark horse comic movies are awsome.
I think the 400x more amazing quote could mean a number of things, but I'd put it more along the lines of a potential very close homage to an old foe rather than 2 Godzilla
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i think it could be his nuclear breath. He has had red fire in the 90's and 2000's eras.
good speculation. but it looks like you've told the film's plot. Hopfully the awakening comic will be a prequel to this and just as good.
Quote: ok, I totally agree that it could be Godzilla. However, I just can't see how that it being "Godzilla vs. a Muto" would be such a highly-secretive plot point. After all, the reviewers ARE talking about other monsters, so the fact that Godzilla is going to be fighting them can't possibly be "400% more awesome". After all, just about EVERY Godzilla movie ever made (exc 1954 & 1998) have him fighting other giant monsters.
-You know, that is actually a a pretty good point. I have thought about this when reading descriptions of the 20 minute sneak peak, and it seemed too late to go as far to call a fight with the Mutos spoiler material. If it was the bigger Muto that Godzilla was fighting, then why would it be so "spoilery" considering how the embargo date ends in less than 2 weeks. Hmm... interesting
Well, we all know that Gareth is referring to the world around Godzilla and his adversaries in terms of "realism". It's just that us fans like to speculate on how we can formulate "realistic" explanations for the creatures themselves. It's just supposed to be fun and thought-provoking, but often times, fans will try and take it too far.
Personally, I've come up with theories that to me are quite realistically plausible in terms of explaining various aspects of what people consider the "unrealistic" aspects i.e. Godzilla and his foes and their individual traits. I just like to do it because it makes me appreciate our hero a bit more, you know? Some people try and state it as fact, I like to state it as plausible fan-fare.
