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Dinozilla0439Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@Kiryugojira

TOTALLY with you! Teaming up with Godzilla? Man, that would rock!!! Honestly, that's what I've wanted to see for years. I always thought seeing the two pair up would be not only awesome, but it might actually get Zilla a lot more respect if he was by Godzilla's side.

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Dinozilla0439Godzilla 2014 ForumWhich Godzilla Movie Should I Get?

@Brojoe

Wow, only a dollar? Where did you get it for such a low price?

@Something Real

A lot of people keep telling me I should get Gojira. XD So that's definitely the direction I'm now going in. Gman also tells me that Godzilla Vs. Monster Zero is awesome as well, so I need to get that one too. So many choices, lol. XD

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KiryuGojiraGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

Zilla is the one who introduced me to the Godzilla franchise, and to me, he does deserve respect. Heck, i think he is already having respect due to Rulers of Earth! I hope that he comes back, but this time, teaming up with Godzilla instead of fighting each other. Who's with me? =3

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Dinozilla0439Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@Something Real

Thanks! :) At first I was planning to come over here and post something like, "Zilla's a really cool monster and he deserves respect," but then I started writing and it just came to me. XD Now glad I posted it instead.

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KiryuGojiraGodzilla 2014 ForumWho is getting adult Jr cuz i know i'am

Oh yeah? If you think it's not an adult Junior, than what is this picture?

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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
DINOZILLA0439 - That's an excellent statement you've made. Very well thought-out and presented. Fantastic work. :)
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Dinozilla0439Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@Devianteist

Zilla, to me, is an awesome monster. Just like you, Zilla is the one who introduced me to the original Godzilla. When I was very, very young, I was a HUGE Zilla fan and I didn't know hardly anything about Godzilla. I know that no one will want to hear this, but originally, Zilla WAS Godzilla to me. I know much better than that now, that they're both their own monsters. Even though I kind of like to view Zilla the way Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin meant for people to view him- as a DIFFERENT VERSION of Godzilla.

You see, people hate him so much because they say he isn't anything LIKE Godzilla. But I find it interesting to think about, really. I know everyone wanted a movie true to the original (and they will get that come May 16th), and I understand why everyone was disappointed, but I find it interesting to see a version of Godzilla so.... different. It's like taking Godzilla and making a monster that is the opposite of him. To me it's an interesting twist, and honestly, it makes a cool monster, in my opinion, just seeing how different he and Godzilla are. I like viewing Zilla as a SECOND version of Godzilla. Not THE Godzilla, the TRUE King of the Monsters, but a DIFFERENT VERSION of him.

I guess that's why calling him Godzilla never bothered me too much. I fully agree with calling him Zilla, because that way you know that they are two different monsters. Obviously, they are in no way the same. But since I always looked at Zilla as being a second version, it never bothered me.

So as I said, I grew up with Zilla, and he was Godzilla to me until he managed to introduce me to the actual King of the Monsters. So he will always be a favorite monster of mine, and I will continue to believe that he is owed respect as being his own amazing, unique monster. This stands for both Zilla from the movie and Zilla Jr.

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Something RealGodzilla Fan Works ForumKaiju Stories
The story I propose is simple: it begins with a new and unknown life-form that came from far beyond the distant arms of our galaxy. The being is little more than a predatory organism that consumes anything and everything organic in its path. However, as it gorges itself, this life-form steadily gains in mass, eventually growing to an immense size. Not only that, but as the being consumes ever greater qauntities of human life, it steadily begins to take on a shadow of sentience. However, as the creature at last attains a truly massive size, roughly 250ft in height, it suddenly splits into two seperate beings - much in the same fashion as an amoeba. Yet, these creatures are vastly disimilar. One is possessed of the moral echoes left over from the minds of the countless men and women consumed by its progenitor, while the other is plagued by the fear, hatred, and greed that once existed within the thoughts of the individuals whose bodies compose its form. At this point, we have the story's main protagonist and antagonist: a pair of titans fashioned form Man's tissues and embodying the purist expression of Mankind's good and evil. Naturally, these fundamentally opposed creatures come into ferocious conflict, laying to waste vast swathes of land and cityscape in the process. Struggling to comprehend themselves and the burgeoning sentience growing within their minds, the pair of creatures can be likened to children attempting to come to terms with the concept of self-awarenss - and morality. However, at the end of it all, after they have caused incalcuable damage and nearly killed one-another, the pair of behemoths simply stop. Having at last gained awarenss in full, and the understanding of themselves that comes with it, the monstrous things simply gaze upon one another for the briefest of moments and then slowly to turn to part ways - never to join again. They have realized, in their fully-actualized sentience, that they are the purist personifications of Man's good and Evil - between which there can be no victor, regardless of how great it has become. This tale is known as "Disimulation".
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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
GODZILLA 2014 RULES - Yes, sweatheart, I'm a girl. Surprised? ;)
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kaijugroupie84Godzilla ForumShould I be embarrassed to be a godzilla fan?

@Godzilla Kid, If there is one thing I learned from high school, it is embrace who you are, who cares if people make fun of you.  It's your thing, even if other people don't understand.  People attack what is different....very much like Godzilla haha (bit o' symbolism for ya!)  I once thought like you, but then I came to embrace it and not care what people thought.  Eventually, people started to actually want to learn about Godzilla after I explained how he isn't just some guy prancing around in a rubber suit....sort of rambling here, but the point is, embrace who you are.

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DevianteistGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@KingKaiJugoJira- 1) Nice name. Had to look at it about 6 times before I spelled it right. 2) You used the fewest words to state a very overlooked fact. Zilla isn't a bad monster. No, quite not. His movie is just dreadful.

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KingKaijuGojiraGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I respect the Zilla less than Zilla Jr. from the cartoon series, but I do respect them. It's the movie I didn't like.

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DevianteistGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@Brojoe- Is there a reason you think this that isn't "Zilla sucks?" Also, why no mention of Jr.?

@Lacreoleman- You drive a fine point. It's surprising that so many well mannered people are gathered within this community [because, y'know, it's the internet].

@GojiJonesy91- You hold firm ground with Lacreoleman, and I like it. Also, of course I will read the replies. I made this thread so that I could figure out who's who on this site. So far, I've found mostly pleasant individuals such as yourself.

So far, I'm actually surprised this many people [though relatively few] have taken time out of their days/nights/lives to bother reading this. I really appreciate.

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GojiJonesy91Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I believe that zilla and it's progeny are important to the hiatory of the franchise, as it was an attempt to bring Godzilla to a wider audience, and despite whqt many may say about the quality of the movie it can't be denied that a generation was introduced to Godzilla through this and came to love an appreciate the original character. I knew about the classic Godzilla before seeing the movie when I was younf and want bothered by the film at all, though in my later years I can see why some take issue with it. 

back to the issue at hand, yes Zilla may have been a huge letown but there is no denying it happened and without the missteps taken we probably wouldnt have the film we are anticipating now. Those who love the character respect him and those who dislike the character should tolerate the fact that zilla and his son have a loving community just as he classic G doeA. Godzilla isn't better than zilla and vice verse, they are part of the kaiju culture just the same. While I agree some zilla fans need to show more respect to the original godzilla, I hope it isn't too much to ask for g-fans to tolerate the fans of zilla without berating or being condescending to them.

thsnk you for reading if you did. 

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GIYGASGodzilla 2014 ForumWho is getting adult Jr cuz i know i'am

That is not an adult jr. figure! Its just a regular S.H Monsterarts Godzilla 1994! 

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ゴジラ 2014 RulesGodzilla 2014 ForumWho is getting adult Jr cuz i know i'am

danzilla93 so i'am saying that are you guys going to get him and the diffrence is the teeth Jr's are shraper on the sides

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LACreolemanGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

My take on the Zilla dialog is simply that as a creature design it has some merit and tried to follow some interesting choices for its biology and how it acts/thinks.  But Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin are not patient people and they are well known for not being able to handle material that is based on other media or established source material.

My issue with Zilla was the fact that Emmerich himself never liked the original Godzilla and the script he and Devlin wrote reflected that.  Much of the 'character' of Godzilla was buried beneath chase scenes that work on Fast and Furious movies but a Giant Monster doesn't do chase scenes and he most definitely doesn't run from the army.  Even the worst of the kaiju films don't have your monster playing like its a 300' version of Arnold in Commando, running and hitting the people from out of nowhere.  The obvious problem of him missing his classic atomic breath could have been overlooked had they decided to make a good film that made enough money to warrant a sequel and then introduce his blue ray o' death there and all would have been forgiven then for the most part.

Edwards seems to have avoided the pitfalls of the Emmerich/Devlin version and is using the history and character of Toho's most famous product to build a film upon and not dismissing it entirely.  Zilla needs to be classified as less of a Godzilla and more of a Godzillasaurus that should have been given more time in the evolutionary Eazy Bake Oven™ to develop more and make him the Godzilla that we shouldn't have waited 16 years to see done properly here.

Zilla does deserve a measure of respect but only because others tried to clean up what Emmerich and Devlin messed up.

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Danzilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumNew Front View of Godzilla (2014) Revealed! (Messenger Bag)

Godzilla Himself:

Best TV show EVER!!!!

Am I nuts, or is there a resemblence?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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BroJoeGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I really think that Zilla deserves no Respect

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BroJoeGodzilla 2014 ForumWhich Godzilla Movie Should I Get?

The Very First Godzilla Movie Is The Best. I Bought It For Blu Ray For Only A Dollar.

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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

The cartoon series was definitely better than the actual movie which it was based on. Granted, I wasn't crazy about the cartoon and Zilla Jr, but at least it was watchable, compared to the crapfest that was '98.

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DevianteistGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@CoolGodzilla1234- Now that is an opinion I find much more agreeable. In fact, I find that I can only disagree with the indiscriminate hate on Zilla. Then again, that's not important.

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GIYGASGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I have respect for Zilla Jr. but I have none for Zilla. A large amount of the people I know make fun of Godzilla and say it is crap because of Zilla. I think of Zilla as undeserving for simpathy or respect but Zilla Jr. does . I respect your opinion. When I was a little kid, I had a DVD of the cartoon series with Zilla Jr. and I thought it was awesome! Zilla Jr. deserves to be more known to everyone.

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GODZILLA HIMSELFGodzilla 2014 ForumNew Front View of Godzilla (2014) Revealed! (Messenger Bag)

@DANZILLA93

im 16, and i got that refrence instantly, thats one of my favorite shows XD

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DevianteistGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@Something Real- Jumping on may not have been the best wording for what I meant. Hm. At the moment I am not quite sure how proper wording could be applied to it. You might be able to find better wordage.
Either way it goes, thanks. No one deserves a snip here. We just need opinions that don't attack anyone.

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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
GODZILLATHEKING123 - that's very big of you, sweetheart. Thank you. :)
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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

something real-Well I just thought its a bit disappointing that he has to watch a fake godzilla to realize a real godzilla exists. But apologies if I came across a bit harsh.

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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
DEVIANTEIST - This really shouldn't be about "jumping on" anybody. We should respect his comments. That being said, I've a massive dislike for anyone showing their backside in so blatant a manner - especially without provoction. You didn't deserve that snip. ;)
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DevianteistGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

@GodzillaTheKing- I used logic? Where?

@Something Real- Oh I love the deep end of things. I get to meet diverse people. Both pleasent, such as yourself, and not so pleasent.

Also, thank you for jumping on GodzillaTheKing for me. Couldn't think of anything to say. xD

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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
GODZILLATHEKING123 - SO you're saying that the gateway (Godzilla 98)through which he found the very thing you support (Gojira) is sad? I thought you'd be pleased for someone else having a love for Godzilla.
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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumWhich is the worse of them all: Son of Godzilla, All Monsters Attack, Godzilla vs Hedorah or Megalon?

Something Real:

I wasn't expecting agreement when I created this thread, so I enjoyed reading it, no matter the disagreement. After all, this can be a subjective issue.

I get the point Godzilla's Revenge was trying to make, standing up to bullies. But the way they executed the movie was ham-fisted. It just wasn't executed well in my opinion. I didn't need to involve Godzilla at all. It was like deception on the part of the producers. That's all I'm saying. 

 

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Godzillatheking123Godzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?

I respect your opinion, Devianteist, but your logic is faulty. You would not even know Godzilla without the '98 version? That's rather sad.

 

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Something RealGodzilla ForumZILLA: Respect or Tolerance?
DEVIANTEIST - glad you've done you homework prior to stepping into the deep end, sweetheart. :) Chin up! There's room for every monster on Monster Island.
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Danzilla93Godzilla 2014 ForumNew Front View of Godzilla (2014) Revealed! (Messenger Bag)

MUST... HAVE... THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a great frontal view too!  That brow makes him look a little like Earl Sinclair. :)

 

Look it up, kids.

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