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Oh no I totally forgot about her why does she exist were you out of your minds Toho why does a cockroach have a human face
It censors C. Roach lol
uuuhh...what the heck is this book even
Godzilla becomes the Senate with his roach gf. Yes. Very nice.
@SquashaDash, that theory is weirdly similar to what I am writing and I didn’t even know what shinomura is. Also, we found another spam bot.
I definitely think it's pushing for the "fixed loop" theory of time, hence the message Yun is getting from the future. Kaiju definitely seem to be 4th dimensional beings in this continuity which explains their ability to see time and/or manipulate it.
I found a way to legally watch the show soo....
SPOILERS:
I'm actually gonna rant about Archetype and Godzilla being a singular point.
Archetype is weird. Not only is a strange material that can trap light without converting it to heat, but also refract it through time. THis itself creates a singular point, in which photons from the future and present are indistinguishable. The ability for Archetype to create these points is interesting and probably explains why Godzilla (a singular point) can manipulate it.
The Series seems to be toying with the idea that the future is fixed, and the ony reason it seems unpredictable is because we have no knowledge of it.
If time is not fixed the explanation for time prediction, via archetype and anguirus could be the other material that I forget the name of.
The show also offers an interesting view at what 4d life could look like. Because we are 3d beings, we are not ablw to see their fourth demension, Time. But the abilities of Anguirus, Archetype, and that godzilla is a singular point, where time is indistinguishable, suggests that they can be measured in time at all moments.
So I submit, Kaiju are 4d.
MAJOR SPOILERS:
It's now been suggested that Godzilla is a Singular Point. In the latest episode Yun posits that Singular Points do not come from our world. The closer Singular Points get to each other the more likely they are to offset a"prophesied" Catastrophe that leads to the end of the world.
This Catastrophe was seen by the scientist who discovered Archetype, via a "Super Calculator" used to decipher Archetype/Singular Points.
So it seems the kaiju do come from an alternate dimension, but how and why they got to our world is still a mystery.
Godzilla Awakening established that the bombings of Hiroshima woke a monster known as Shinomura. Godzilla sensing both the bomb and the Shinomura woke up and began patrolling the Pacific, hunting the Shinomura. Eventually the US government discovered Godzilla and the Shinomura after Godzilla had a run in with the USS Nautilus in 1954. The Government formed the organization of Monarch to study these monsters, believing them to be a threat (at least one of them was). After finding out that both Godzilla and the Shinomura were attracted to radiation, they decided to lure them to Bikini Atoll by using an atomic bomb, believing that the blast would kill both of them. When Godzilla and the Shinomura arrived in Bikini Atoll, the US detonated the bomb. The blast killed the Shinomura, however Godzilla was unharmed. With the threat of the Shinomura destroyed Godzilla returned to hibernation. Believing that they had killed Godzilla and not wanting to alert the general public, the US covered up the incident, stating that it was just another one of the nuclear tests that the government had been conducting for the past decade.
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It's also worth mentioning that Japan gauges the success of films off attendance numbers over gross. So how many tickets are sold will be a larger indicator for its success.
7amey,
($25.8 million, but that's splitting hairs.)
The difference is film and television piracy is taken a lot more seriously in Japan. I have no doubt some risk it, but it's much more enforced and doesn't normally effect box office receipts. Take Godzilla (2014) for instance. It was released in Japan two months after the world wide release in May. But it still made $30.5 million.
The main thing I see hurting it is COVID and the capacity theaters are running. I think it'll be lucky if goes over $30 million, but might just barely hit below it.
Of course there's always the unlikely chance of a Demon Slayer effect, where Japanese audiences hungry to go back to theaters blow up the box office numbers. Given how fickle it is, Japan will be an interesting place to see how it does. I'll be following it very closely this July here.
Ohhhh man! God dang it. Well, I’ll be using my theory in my fanfic because Im almost done with the chapter where it matters and I don’t want to restart it.
Being a bit pessimistic, King of the Monsters grossed $25,400,000 in Japan. Considering the fact that a lot might have seen Godzilla vs Kong on their phones, I expect the box office numbers to be below $20M.
He was awakened by the USS Nautilus in 1954. This is explained in Godzilla(2014). The Castle Bravo bomb test was an effort to kill him. The mission was codenamed "Lucky Dragon".
Sorry about some of the mistypes there, my windows 8 laptop hates me as much as I hate it.
7amey,
I expect an over-under of $30M largely due to how expensive tickets for Hollywood movies are in Japan.
http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/species/h/hovasaurus.html
ok so guys i just found this out ^
Hovasaurus was a reptile from the Permian-Triassic that had a LOOONG tail. And, even better, it was aquatic!
So yeah animal tails can be....long.
I like it. It doesn't make much sense, sure, but Godzilla films never made sense, did they? A kaiju film universe like the Monsterverse shouldn't restrain itself to realism.
Let's hope it'll take the box office numbers to another level.
Sorry it took so long, but hope ya enjoy it like we did Japan.
I like
Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee
Had not updated this topic in a while since back when we used to use BBCode for the forums. Fun to look back and see what everyone's favorite games were. I'm still hoping Pipeworks deliver us another Save The Earth style fighting game in the near future but with the Monsterverse roster added in.
The A.I. notion is pretty vague. It seemed to have enough awareness to fortify itself into an entire city, but not to become battle ready. The main issue with the anime trilogy isn't the monster battles, or even the ideas, but the way it subverts logical storytelling for the sake of symbolism. I'm not entirely opposed to it, as it works for stuff like the ending of Shin Godzilla. But moments like those are tight and isolated for the audience to chew on.
The idea that MechaGodzilla is an A.I., in so far that it represents a sort of god to the bilasaludo that must be interpreted and sacrificed to via their own faith (in technology), leaves some logical holes hanging that an entire two movies had the chance to fill. It works for Urobuchi's themes though and the ironic parallels of the bilasaludo's technological practice and paganism isn't lost on me.
Also, I suppose it's better than lip servicing a shoehorned life-vs-artificial-life theme into a movie that had no A.I. Looking at you Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II.
I see what you mean. But similar but not super similar
for some reason this poster reminds me of some showa era kaiju posters.i dont know why
I will say, the kaiju they didn’t botch in the anime, is Godzilla himself. He had a very commanding screen presence
As I tried to say, the bilasaludo are doing what it wants, it doesn’t need to do all the work when others can do it for it.
What I meant with the artificial intelligence argument was that they establish that MG can think for itself, yet all of its actions are directly controlled by the Bilusaludo. It never actually thinks for itself, so what was the point of establishing that idea if they never use it?
I'll admit my statement of it "letting itself be destroyed" was a bit exaggerated, but at the same time both Godzilla and Haruo attack it and it barely does anything to prevent its own destruction.
Yeah good for them
HinikunaGoji,
The Exif work more as a cult than a religion. The Planet Eater has a literal "drink the Kool-aid," scene more evocative of Jonestown.
I always found that aspect fascinating, because they seem so convincing until their true motives rain down--Such is the way of most famous cults.
SasquaDash,
They established that the reason it was hiding, however, was so it could rebuild itself. I also think "allows itself to be destroyed" is a stretch considering Haruo opened fire on it, so it couldn't respond or propagate. The point that he finally landed on was that it might potentially be a grater threat to literal humanity than Godzilla.
I was with you until this point, “The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence?”
The artificial intelligence helped further the themes that Mechagodzilla presented in this interpretation. It not only showed nanometal as some dangerous thing, but giving it perceived intelligence. Giving a villain motivation other than, The plot told me to is always a good thing. And by making Nanometal/MG intelligeny, it can portray it more as a villain manipulating the Bilasaludo, which again is something new the anime provided into the godzilla franchise. The bilasaludo weren’t in control, they were pawns.
I’ve noticed some things people seem to get wrong about these films. The biggest one is the nature of the exif. People seem to think their all faith based, when in reality that is completely wrong. If you listen to anything Metphies says, then you know they can literally prove ghidorah exists with math and science.
As much as I say I don’t like the execution, I really do like these movies.
"Anime Mechagodzilla, Go Destroy Godzilla!!!"
As dumb as the whole "Mechagodzilla city" idea is, they could of done something unique and creative. They could have created something new and it could have been very memorable, the problem is that they didn't even try to do that, they just turned Mechagodzilla into a city for no reason and had it barely do anything. The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence?
In my opinion anime Mechagodzilla is the worst interpretation of the character, because it barely does anything. It's built to be the ultimate defense against Godzilla, yet when Godzilla attacks and MG is sent to fight him, it just refuses to activate and gets destroyed by Godzilla. Later they find out that it wasn't completely destroyed and has been rebuilding itself for the past 20,000 years to become the "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon", only for it to turn itself into a city that uses a force field to hide from Godzilla. Then when Godzilla finds MG city, it just allows itself to be completely destroyed, barely attempting to fight back. "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon" my a**...
HinikunaGoji,
They seem to have been a loose homage to Terror of MechaGodzilla.
The false advertising of MechaGodzilla is definitely my most bothersome issue with the anime trilogy, but like the false advertising of 2014, it's been long enough that I don't care anymore. Both stand on their own story apart from the marketing pretty well.
Mechagodzilla City could have been cool. The buildings could have been mechs. seriously.
