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Had not updated this topic in a while since back when we used to use BBCode for the forums. Fun to look back and see what everyone's favorite games were. I'm still hoping Pipeworks deliver us another Save The Earth style fighting game in the near future but with the Monsterverse roster added in.
The A.I. notion is pretty vague. It seemed to have enough awareness to fortify itself into an entire city, but not to become battle ready. The main issue with the anime trilogy isn't the monster battles, or even the ideas, but the way it subverts logical storytelling for the sake of symbolism. I'm not entirely opposed to it, as it works for stuff like the ending of Shin Godzilla. But moments like those are tight and isolated for the audience to chew on.
The idea that MechaGodzilla is an A.I., in so far that it represents a sort of god to the bilasaludo that must be interpreted and sacrificed to via their own faith (in technology), leaves some logical holes hanging that an entire two movies had the chance to fill. It works for Urobuchi's themes though and the ironic parallels of the bilasaludo's technological practice and paganism isn't lost on me.
Also, I suppose it's better than lip servicing a shoehorned life-vs-artificial-life theme into a movie that had no A.I. Looking at you Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II.
I see what you mean. But similar but not super similar
for some reason this poster reminds me of some showa era kaiju posters.i dont know why
I will say, the kaiju they didn’t botch in the anime, is Godzilla himself. He had a very commanding screen presence
As I tried to say, the bilasaludo are doing what it wants, it doesn’t need to do all the work when others can do it for it.
What I meant with the artificial intelligence argument was that they establish that MG can think for itself, yet all of its actions are directly controlled by the Bilusaludo. It never actually thinks for itself, so what was the point of establishing that idea if they never use it?
I'll admit my statement of it "letting itself be destroyed" was a bit exaggerated, but at the same time both Godzilla and Haruo attack it and it barely does anything to prevent its own destruction.
Yeah good for them
HinikunaGoji,
The Exif work more as a cult than a religion. The Planet Eater has a literal "drink the Kool-aid," scene more evocative of Jonestown.
I always found that aspect fascinating, because they seem so convincing until their true motives rain down--Such is the way of most famous cults.
SasquaDash,
They established that the reason it was hiding, however, was so it could rebuild itself. I also think "allows itself to be destroyed" is a stretch considering Haruo opened fire on it, so it couldn't respond or propagate. The point that he finally landed on was that it might potentially be a grater threat to literal humanity than Godzilla.
I was with you until this point, “The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence?”
The artificial intelligence helped further the themes that Mechagodzilla presented in this interpretation. It not only showed nanometal as some dangerous thing, but giving it perceived intelligence. Giving a villain motivation other than, The plot told me to is always a good thing. And by making Nanometal/MG intelligeny, it can portray it more as a villain manipulating the Bilasaludo, which again is something new the anime provided into the godzilla franchise. The bilasaludo weren’t in control, they were pawns.
I’ve noticed some things people seem to get wrong about these films. The biggest one is the nature of the exif. People seem to think their all faith based, when in reality that is completely wrong. If you listen to anything Metphies says, then you know they can literally prove ghidorah exists with math and science.
As much as I say I don’t like the execution, I really do like these movies.
"Anime Mechagodzilla, Go Destroy Godzilla!!!"
As dumb as the whole "Mechagodzilla city" idea is, they could of done something unique and creative. They could have created something new and it could have been very memorable, the problem is that they didn't even try to do that, they just turned Mechagodzilla into a city for no reason and had it barely do anything. The other thing that bugs me about is that the movies build up the idea of it having an advanced artificial intelligence, yet everything that done by Mechagodzilla is directly controlled by the aliens. So what was the point of giving it artificial intelligence?
In my opinion anime Mechagodzilla is the worst interpretation of the character, because it barely does anything. It's built to be the ultimate defense against Godzilla, yet when Godzilla attacks and MG is sent to fight him, it just refuses to activate and gets destroyed by Godzilla. Later they find out that it wasn't completely destroyed and has been rebuilding itself for the past 20,000 years to become the "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon", only for it to turn itself into a city that uses a force field to hide from Godzilla. Then when Godzilla finds MG city, it just allows itself to be completely destroyed, barely attempting to fight back. "Ultimate Godzilla Destroying Weapon" my a**...
HinikunaGoji,
They seem to have been a loose homage to Terror of MechaGodzilla.
The false advertising of MechaGodzilla is definitely my most bothersome issue with the anime trilogy, but like the false advertising of 2014, it's been long enough that I don't care anymore. Both stand on their own story apart from the marketing pretty well.
Mechagodzilla City could have been cool. The buildings could have been mechs. seriously.
Exactly, the anime trilogy manage to do something I never thought was possible, make a confrontation between Godzilla and Ghidorah boring. Seriously, I've never seen a kaiju fight try so hard to be that uninteresting, every time something potentially cool started to happen the movie basically said "screw it, that's to much work" and bailed on the idea. People can say what they want about King of the Monsters (I love that movie, but I will admit that it had a lot of problems), at least that movie gave us some worthwhile fights between Godzilla and Ghidorah, heck, the brief confrontation between Godzilla and the giant condor in Ebirah: Horror of the Deep! was more of a fight than the one that they had in The Planet Eater. You want to see the fight from The Planet Eater? just look at the poster, that's pretty much the entire thing. The fact that they built up that "fight" for three movies, only to give us one of the laziest battle in Godzilla history is kind of insulting. And don't get me started on the fact that they heavily marketed Mechagodzilla for City on the Edge of Battle, only for him NOT to show up in that film (him turning into a useless city doesn't count).
I am late on this but the tail is 17 inches long. Thats like 1.5x longer than the actual body of the figurine.
I mean, the mask thing isn't really odd (to me, at least) because music videos can be kinda strange. Like the music video for Savior by Rise Against is just some people in animal costumes moshing intercut with the band playing. Or um...y'know...Black Hole Sun's...
This is pretty awesome. MV really needs an entire movie set in the Hollow Earth.
I feel that only applies to Godzilla Earth.
Long live the king....
that first image is actually kinda interesting...
L O O O O NG TAILED GODZILLA
The more I learn about Singular Point the more I love it
kinda looks like a hybrid between anguirus and godzilla
What I’m imagining is hilarious
Toho Godzilla in a few years:
d o u g *gratuitous sparkle emoji*
it’s an early design for doug
It looks like a spiky Doug
Biology irl is super screwed lol
it can be weirder than fiction. people always say that but it's because it's true
I disagree. The designer of Ultima wanted it to look like a actual living thing. The Legs would actually have to be that big to support its body, according to physics. Many animals with a similar body plan have tails even longer than that. So I don’t think it’s getting rid of biology at all. Biology would naturally get weirder the bigger something gets
I love how disproportionate it is. It's as if Godzilla's biology in Shin Godzilla and Singular Point simply doesn't give a damn. Whatever makes him a more monstrous wrecking machine, it's in.
i think it really looks like a little version of godzilla.
I like the less spiky version of this, but its better than the movie
I was trying to find a Godzilla Heratige Topic to comment on. Personally I love the designs but the movie based on the synopsis, seems to have had a similar concept to monarch from monsterverse. Another thing is that it doesn’t seem to retain the darker aspects of Godzilla, That I think makes the monster amazing.
Yeah true since it was mainly overshadowed by the MONKE himself
