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Good. I love the KOTM redesign. 

Looks about right to me.

What I said does matter. It’s why debate exists for a reason. But I’ll leave the topic to its original discussion then.

Well, the mice could win, given the right writer.

TheGman123 they better have a good explation for that though. Ghidorah was five hundred something meters tall in the last movie, and I’m pretty sure he could easily break iron chains. So the only way it could work is that he hasn’t fully generated and is a midgit at the time.

TheGMan123 Honestly, I kinda hope Ghidorah doesn't make a full comeback in GvK. I loved him in KOTM, but twice in a row feels repetitive.

There was some alleged leak a while back that proposed that the main villain of the movie would be a shapeshifting biomass made from an experiment with Ghidorah's DNA gone wrong. I honestly like that idea a lot better.

The Hooded Figure

It's subjective. MV Godzilla has been overwhelmed before. Serious Sam has lost many times before. MV Godzilla is semi-aquatic. We don't know how good a swimmer Serious Sam is. Hydrogen is lighter than Uranium. It's true, doesn't mean it's something that really makes a difference to the point of the discussion.

And I WOULD use different versions of Godzilla, but A. using a composite Godzilla would be kind of weird and B. we're specifically talking about Monsterverse Godzilla, not any of the other incarnations. It's one of the original parameters of this discussion.

Also, yes. That's essentially what it has devolved to, but at least giving actual claims and evidence than just saying it basically doesn't matter. Of course it doesn't really matter, that's basically the fun of it. I mean, does what you said actually help the original topic at all? It's also something we all know and recognize. So that's essentially like saying Sam and Godzilla would never meet. We know that, we recognize that. So what if they'd never meet? Even if they did meet, it would be completely fictitious and also probably non-cannon to a fictional story. And?

"Additionally, there’s quite a difference between making use of supporting evidence to back your claims instead of giving the same-answers-but-in-different-words responses."

And there's a difference between making use of supporting evidence to back your claims and saying a basic thing that has little relevance to the discussion and we all already know.

Anyways, back on topic, MV Godzilla would win. Sure, Sam could technically win, but Godzilla would win more times than not. The only Godzillas I think he'd stand more than a theoretical chance of beating are Godzilla 1998, if you count her as one, and maybe Showa, but even then Showa would win more times than not, and Zilla (and especially Zilla Junior) wouldn't go down very easily.

I dunno, I guess I just don't get these kind of vibes.

Ghidorah (likely still as a head and neck) in chains is just plain cool and a neat image to have after establishing he was the devil before. The devil has been chained up, but he's still tempting humanity.

If written that way, sure.

But Nexus and his meta-field that automatically giving him an advantage? Zero and his pretty much endless powers, including Nexus's powers? Max and the fact that his size has no limit? *squish* It's like pairing mice against Superman.

G.H. (Gman)

Well, technically the Godzillas could win. 

Because it is true. If the scenarios (or characters) are fictitious, there’s no limit to what a writer desires for the outcome to be. It doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy discussing the what-ifs or who-could-win regarding fictitious material, but in the case for this topic, the claims used here are just repeated back and forth and delve into nonsense rather than providing examples of additional relevance to the original claims.

For example, there are different versions of Godzilla to help build your claim against what the OP uses rather than limiting yourself to the MonsterVerse Godzilla. Additionally, there’s quite a difference between making use of supporting evidence to back your claims instead of giving the same-answers-but-in-different-words responses.

I really don't get the appeal of these deformed/Chibi type figures. I'd much rather have an accurately-proportioned figure any day of the week.

This is like a mix of Shin Godzilla, The Return of Godzilla, and Godzilla Raids Again all in one.

Gojifan2007 "Godzilla is not that small. how are they both able to stand there? It would probably sink. And is it just me or does Kong actually look taller than the big G?"

I think it's the perspective. A lot of people are saying that Kong is about a head shorter than Godzilla. My personal theory is that Godzilla is beginning to climb up on one side of the carrier, while Kong leaps at him from the other side. But we won't know for sure until we see more footage.

G. H. (Gman) If it's some kind of clone pseudo-Ghidorah, I'd feel a little better about it. But I agree, having him chained up like Ray Harryhausen's dragon from The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad just feels off.

I personally don't feel like they're trying to dumb him down to just a dragon, but I get where you're coming from.

Teacher: get your work done

Me: Shhh! i'm listening to this picture!!

Teacher: WHAT ARE YOU, STUPID!! You cant hear pictures.

Me: 

"Take that you dinosaur!"

Also me:

BRUH that's Glenn with pixel glasses XD

 Godzilla is not that small. how are they both able to stand there? It would probably sink. And is it just me or does Kong actually look taller than the big G? LETS GO GODZILLA>

Had this been Ultraman Nexus, Zero or Max, there wouldn't have been enough left of either Godzillas to fit in a contact case.

Sure thing. Can't wait for that. See you then. :)

This looks cool, but I wish that we got to see all of obscure and deleted Titans on screen instead of only in the lead-up to the film. I really do hope that happens in GvK.

Rodan The One Born of Fire,
There is no image. Just a leaked rumor that is now substantiated by the leaked footage here which also matches the rumor.

King Ghidorah shackled is great imagery if it's some sort of western dragon in a medieval movie or Game of Thrones or The Hobbit or something. But one of the things I've loved so much about King Ghidorah is that he was never treated like a dragon--And even when we saw him in "weaker" states he was never neutered (Mothra 3).

But the increasing tilt toward treating him that way feels very generic. And shackling Godzilla's arch-nemesis (which KotM only felt the need to emphasis every 10 minutes) who is supposedly the King of Terror with man made technology (especially chains - though I'm sure there's some catch to that -) feels horribly out of place for King Ghidorah.

But whatever. I don't particularly care for this interpretation of King Ghidorah to begin with. So I suppose they can nerf him how they want.

can somebody send me a link to the image of ghidorah in chains cause i was never informed of this in any way

You know, I've seen a lot of prominent individual G-fans being very vocal about how they don't like the connotations behind this clip potentially confirming the original Russian leak. I'm just here wondering why.

That stuff sounds AWESOME. Ghidorah in chains is incredible imagery, as is Godzilla and Kong going at it on a sunken aircraft carrier.

The Hooded Figure

Fair point, not the best comparison. Honestly that'd be good enough to fit r/murderedbywords. But I believe you miss my point. The point is that there's no real point to saying that. We all know that it's really subjective and based on whoever is writing the fight, but we still like to discuss it and give our reasons for why we think one would defeat another. There's no point in saying, "the winner is whoever the writer wants." Of course it's whoever the writer wants, but we just want to talk about who we think would or want to win. If you don't care about who would win or think talking about "who would win in a fight" is pointless because it has no meaning and is based on opinion, fine. If you don't really care, fine. I understand your reasoning and I partially agree. BUT, saying something like "the winner is whoever the writer wants" is about as pointless, if not more so, than the actual topic at hand since we already KNOW it's based on opinion. 

I mean, it's like writing a tiger v.s. lion fight. You want the lion to win? Go ahead, you can tilt it in the lion's favor and debate later whether or not it would actually win (as long as you don't pass it off as the definitive winner of every fight or that this is definite fact, of course. That'd be plain stupidity). But if you write the fight and realize "oh, I just want the lion to win!" and decide that since it's completely subjective, you just delete the whole fight and say "whoever the writer wants to win," that's even more pointless. Hell, if "whoever the writer wants to win" is going to be your answer for every fight, then what's the point? "I want Kong to win in GVK!" Well what's the point in wanting him to win if your answer is always going to be "it's whoever the writers want to win?"

For a better comparison, this is like if I asked "what if you were bitten by a care bear zombie, what would you do?" and you go "that wouldn't happen." Well of course not! The whole point is it's so ridiculous that it wouldn't happen! It's not like I'm asking you what would happen if you took a breath, I'm asking something ridiculous! If you don't care, fine! I'll drop it! But if you just go "that wouldn't happen though" over and over, then it's just annoying. Or if you hear someone nearby asking someone else that question and go "THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN THOUGH!" 

Basically, that gibberish paragraph would go something like this (skip to 2:59)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrHkb8U8ID8

Off toho kingdom.

Interesting. Where did you find this?

Also, there's something about Sam's face that kind of gives me a chuckle. It's almost like he's saying "Why am I in this movie? What's my purpose in all of this?"

I like the idea of forms like Shin had.

I'm going to have (Minor spoilers) legendary Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, and Ghidorah in my Godzilla x Symphogear story. Also Serizawa but whatever.

Lets go Kong.

ANGLE-SIDE-SIDE

The Hooded Figure,

Yeah, same here. Let's just wait for a better quality photo before assuming.

Not really a good comparison. Normally, (I’m assuming you’re referring to males) a tiger would emerge victorious against a lion as documentations have (unfortunately) proven such; however, a tiger or lion’s age, durability, experience, mentality, etc. are contributing factors. For example, a young and inexperienced tiger holds greater chance in losing to a lion who has experience. Or an abused tiger being forced to fight a lion (captive or wild), the tiger would surely die.

Reality is far different from fiction.

Gomi: Ninja Monster Or Warner Bros. decides to be really bold and kill both of them off.

But it's been stated multiple times that there will be a definitive winner, so it likely won't be that or a tie.

Personally the way I see it, there's no outcome that won't tick off a large portion of the fanbase. Either Kong wins and people get mad he won, Godzilla wins and people get mad he won, or they respect each other and people get mad they didn't have a definitive winner. So I'm planning on just sitting back and enjoying that this is happening in the first place, and letting whatever the outcome is be what it is, no sides for me.

The Hooded Figure Eh, to each his own. I'm personally rooting for Godzilla, but I hope that the two can come to respect each other as worthy opponents and fellow Alphas by the end.

"The winner is whoever the writer wants it to be."

God... damn it. Yes, that's definitely true, BUT that's like watching a tiger fight a lion in a zoo in real life (yes, cruel practice, but works for what I'm about to say) and someone asks "who do you think will win?" and you say "the people who orchestrated the fight" or "the zookeepers", "the zoo owners", or "the investors". Yeah, you're probably right... but still...

If it were clear, only one of the instances would be accounted for; rather, both are intermixed. However, the fault does lie with the film’s lack of explanation.

As for the news, Kong’s looking good. I hope he is victorious against Godzilla.