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sonictiger,
Then ignore it.
G theorist,
None of this is really new. It's been going on with Godzilla fan forums since 1995. If some people don't like something there are inevitable clashes and in a lot of cases they were, much, much, much worse back then and in the early 2000s.
But you know what? Everyone landed safely. We survived the 1998 backlash, the massive headbutting over eras, death threats during the Millennium series and the division brought by Final Wars. People would get into flame wars and then land perfectly safe the very next week.
It's simply part of internet discourse. Always has been.
I know! I can be a real B sometimes... XD
Honestly, I still don’t see how this movie can do everything seen in the trailers in less than 2 hours
One thing I hate about this, Is the changing of opinion. No one should say things about a movie that they wouldn’t have said before, because people are squashing their opinions.
Don’t think I’m saying that I’m perfect and not doing anything, because that is far from true. Recently I’ve been trying to stop fighting
I’ve always loved the movie concept art style, I wish I could understand lighting like that
This is why I typically don’t share my opinion, I’d rather not have someone make a list to destroy everything on it.
I'm just quickly going to throw my own 2 cents into this discussion. Something I'll always say and will say again is that there is a difference between a GOOD movie and a movie you LIKE with this movie being a prime example of this.
Do I think this is a structurally and objectively good movie? No, far from it. The characters are a bit bland with motivations which don't make a lot of sense and which are for the most part pretty forgettable. You are supposed to care when the Mother (spoilers) dies, but you just don't care. There are likely other problems, but I'm just naming the big one right now.
But having said this you would probably think I either hate/dislike this movie or I think it's alright, but I love this movie. One of the main reasons being that this movie was clearly made by people who respects, understand and love this franchise and its characters. My mom who has never seen a Godzilla movie in her life can name the 4 main Kaiju and their individual personalities. When you watch the behind the scenes where they talk about the designs, you see how much thought went into every little aspact, making for some of my favorite/definitive designs.
I have so many fond memories from this movie. From the action with Rodan's awakening and the final battle to the beauty of Mothra's hatching with her original theme. I know it's fan service and there's a lot of it, but I've always loved that. This is the same reason why Ready Player One is one of my favorite movies from the last few years. Some my call it a cheap thrill, but little things like that make me feel like a kid again watching these movies for the first time.
To quickly conclude this, I love the Monsterverse and KotM specifically, but that doesn't mean they are "good" movies. Everyone will have their own experience and opinions and that's oké. For every terrible movie there will always be a person who likes it, it's discussing why they think that way which makes fanbases like ours. At the end of the day, if everyone had the same opinion, what would be the point of discussing anything?
@sonictiger , then you can DM him about it and talk. Arguments never solve anything.
Remember the days where people could just have an opinion without someone else raising pitchforks and torches? Yeah me neither...
This is actually what inspired me to change my signature (besides me just having a really jumpy attention span)
Yeah, everyone kinda needs to chill out. Even me, probably-
Honestly gman, it’s really annoying every time you decide to pound the MonsterVerse for being bad or “inferior to the other movies besides ‘98”
Any positive thoughts about these movies?
I try to keep it calm but some people (Gman) just trash talk about everything and it makes me mad.
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I'm just saying from experience when you get excessive with your passions people get turned off to the things you like, especially when you put down the spin-off or adaptation they like of what you like.
Like I said I tend to be an elitist when it comes to the Alien series when regards to that awful AVP movie directed by Paul W S Anderson or the Disney run of Star Wars or how the Terminator movies haven't been good since Terminator 2 or how people keep comparing Camp Cretaceous as being on the same serious level as the Live Action Jurassic Park movies, I personally find Camp Cretaceous to be very childish and flanderize many aspects of the franchise but that is a topic for another discussion.
It's like saying, "don't overkill your love for something" as well though. Some people get tired of hearing it.
"Its deja vu of 1998 all over again."
It's really not.
I'm not attacking your opinion. Its okay if the MonsterVerse isn't your cup of tea but don't overkill your disdain for the cinematic universe. It feels like no matter what hollywood does it can never please certain members of this fandom and a lot of new comers are driven away by like minded hardcore fans for liking the Legendary's Series instead of Toho's Series. Its deja vu of 1998 all over again.
Xenotaris,
Once again, you continue to misconstrue things you don't fully understand. For example, you're only looking for me hounding the Monsterverse at this point. If you've been paying attention, I've only been responding when asked about it and when I'm called into question (like in this thread). I'm even tired of talking about the Monsterverse as I feel I've explained why it's inferior in spades. No need to be a broken record unless asked--But we all are.
Thus, I will not refrain from stating opinions when asked and when the conversation is open to it. If someone asks, "Should the Monsterverse Continue after Godzilla vs. Kong," then that opens it up to those who don't think it should as well. If someone tells me, "Admit it's ambitious," and I disagree, I'm going to.
If you can't accept negative backlash, maybe don't ask the questions.
Grammarmonster
this is pretty neat
I was trying to make that segment from the perspective of muto prime herself
wait what? that is no fair!
not awful, but dang thats wacky dude
I would also try out Mothra (1961) and Rodan (1958) to get some backstory on those two monsters and maybe Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster but that one is optional
I might watch the OG and maybe 1962 kvg
When/if you do go on a Toho Godzilla marathon some of the latter Showa movies can be a drag to watch with all the stock footage you'll be seeing, mostly the reuse of Godzilla and Pals fighting King Ghidorah but its worth it because after the Terror of Mechagodzilla is the first Heisei Godzilla, I liked most of the Heisei series except for Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
I watched Kong skull island and I was confused on why Godzilla was featured in the post credits
and then I watched the trailer for kotm and watched the movie and I liked it
and now imma hyped for Godzilla vs Kong
your welcome sonictiger, the old godzilla movies will take sometime to get used with people running around fighting in monster suits it gets better in the Heisei series onwards since the suits get better looking (in my opinion anyways).
Yeah, I've started out as a huge Jurassic Park fan back in the early 90's. My first exposure to Godzilla was a cartoon called Godzilla Power Hour. Then my first live action Godzilla movie was Godzilla vs Monster Zero aka Godzilla vs The Astro Monster, only have seen Power Hour I was confused on the storyline but had fun watching it because it was a monster movie.
My second Godzilla movie was Godzilla1998, then some odd years later my uncle sent my the entire godzilla series he tapped. I finally decided to watch them to build up hype for Godzilla 2014 from Godzilla 1954 (well the King of the Monsters! verison) all the way to Godzilla vs Destoroyah (1995) I havent got to finish the rest of the series since my VHS player died after playing the first couple minutes of Godzilla 2000.
You realize their getting the movie before the USA
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Glad I don't live in India.
Again, THANK YOU
If you want to introduce younger/newer fans to the older movies you have to be more diplomatic and less snarky
THANK YOU Xenotaris!!
Gman, you are hating way too much. Be positive dude.
I don't mean to nitpick but lizards technically didn't evolve until the mid-jurassic
Gman you misunderstand me, I'm all for opinions but you constantly hound on why the Monstervese is inferior, I get it, I used to be like you and constantly hound how terrible AVP (2004) was compared to the rest of the Alien series. You can find my posts on this very website for that example
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Imma glad I live in the USA
Amazing
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Gabriel Salomon,
Louder for those in the back.
