no your right with that, godzilla in gvsmegagirus is an alternate universe where the original godzilla were he isn't killed by the oxygen destoryer instead disapers for decades. so you are right

http://www.amazon.com/Godzilla-The-Official-Movie-Novelization/dp/1783290943/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1391907047&sr=8-3&keywords=godzilla+2014

Look... no other Kaiju besides Godzilla logo ... Bummer! which means no other TOHO monster then

Please cease with the name throwing and insults of other members/staff, it's against our forum rules.

There you go MADISON finallyyy, i totally agree with you, but to tell you, thats totally NOT EVEN a small reason why i even made this topic still

No, the other discussion was about what if a TOHO monster was to ppear at the end of the movie,  this discussion is about Legendary and Gareth's secretiveness for the Godzilla movie and that they could be hiding a TOHO monster from us and probably have lied to us about no TOHO monsters being in the movie.

Does that sound directly on topic with the other topic? And also yes i did mention a TOHO monster, but did i even mention it to be appearing at the end of the movie? No, cuz thats wat the other topic's about and this one is about something much different that i thought of myself.

And your saying I wanna make my own thread to bring up my popularity? Lol i find that funny because that is such a smartass move to think since you dont even know me. 

This whole thread was made to inform you guys about my opinion, and only IF any of you cared to know it, i had no thoughts in my mind about " Ohhh imma make a new discussion to get everyone on my side so they know me more ".

So get your f....... mind straight, you know nothing about me and stop being a smartass about what i do.

I generally would advocate consolidating topics to avoid clutter......however, the way this website is formatted, I can see why there is a need for duplicate topics. 

Topics get bumped down way too quickly. With only 5 slots on the main page for 'latest discussions' stuff gets buried quickly. 

And it's not as easy as it could be to find a topic you didn't already post in. Which means, after a topic gets buried, the only people who post in it 90% of the time are the people who are already there, no fresh blood gets added. 

If you want fresh blood added to a topic, you basically HAVE to create a new thread. 

In an ideal world, yeah duplicate topics would bother me. But until this site gets reformatted, it will probably be a necessary evil.

oh and in GvsM (megagirus) Godzilla 2000 is really 54 in that movie but if i'am wrong then i should watch the movie again

Well, it's good to see people either providing thought-provoking crticism, or coming up with their own theories. This is the kind of stuff I like to see!

i would rate it 7.5 out of 10 seems fair to me

I'll say this one time for everyone:

Do not trust Oleg's information.

He tried predicting the previous trailer as well as several other pieces of "leaked" information and failed on every single attempt. He incorrectly fed information to us for a good while, and his information is absolute crap.

Take nothing from this person as fact for any reason.

He's full of it.

really with IMDb good movies can get low ratings because the rating are based on users who can spam a good movie to bad ratings because of trolling and bad movies like V.A can be rated good becuase of the fan girls who are users, R.T is mostly based on reviewers which is more reliable.

GMAN2887 i get what ur saying about just putting things we wanna talk about into one similar discussion about the main point thats being talked about,

but i disagree about that thing u said where u think i clearly believe this subject is important. Cuz no, i dont think this discussion is important.  None of ours are important, only news are, but we all have the right here to talk about what we wanna talk about, even if we think its not important (but has to be about Godzilla).

Stop assuming shit please, i consider that as a smartass for the way you wrote it.  I dont exactly go on other discussions to say what i believe is true out of my own mouth, i just say my opinion but not in a way that i think its totally correct.  So keep that in mind.

IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes are tricky, because even the best movies can get a very low rating, and very bad movies can get a pretty big rating.

But for IMDb, id say 6/10 +/- is a plausible number.

for Rotten Tomatoes 5/10 sounds right.

But this information still fits into your thoughts on the subject of a Toho monster possibly or possibly not appearing in the movie. They fit in just as well and could've added more to the conversation there. Now you've just deluded the conversation by making a spin-off of the topic so your own thread can have some popularity. There's absolutely nothing you've said here that wasn't relavant to the other topic. At all.

I'm sure TOHO monsters could be rebooted in a non-cheesy way, just like Godzilla. 

But that's a step for a sequel, not in the original reboot. 

It's all about perception, getting critics and general audiences to see this movie. The more things are in this movie which are associated with the older films, the less the public will be willing to see it and more work/marketing will have to be out there to convice them otherwise. 

They have to make this movie seem like it's NOTHING like ANY Godzilla movie they've seen before. Adding TOHO monsters undermines that. Even if the TOHO monster is added in a non-cheesy way. 

It's not about whether or not a TOHO monster will make the movie cheesy....it's about whether or not adding a TOHO monster will make people THINK the movie is going to be cheesy, just like those other older ones, and then they avoid it at the box office. 

They need to get Godzilla off the ground by himself first, let people know this isn't the Godzilla of yesteryear, they need to make a clean profit, and after they have general public's confidence and trust that they know how to handle a Godzilla movie, then they could maybe add TOHO monsters in future films. 

Earning the trust of us G-Fans is easier than the gaining the trust of the general public. Additional TOHO monsters just creates more work for their marketing department...which makes it harder for the movie to make money, the more they spend on marketing.

Im even talking about something entirely different here, so why would you consider this a thread thats already being talked about?

I said here that its still possible a TOHO monster can be in the film but is kept a secret right now, i said nothing about about "Wat TOHO monster do you guys think will be in this movie?" or "Wat if a TOHO monster appears at the end of the movie?" as for those are already discussed topics

But GodzillaFan1995 is right. All you did was great a sub-topic that could have been easily discussed and maintained in the one they he mentioned and you posted in your very first post. It's exactly like the many discussions of Godzilla's size. I've seen discussions about how big his hieght, how long his tail is going to be, how big his spines are...etc... All of that could simply be consolidated into one topic. There's no need to waste the bandwidth and clutter the board.

Likewise, any discussion about Toho monsters in the movie or following movies could simply be regulated to one, single topic. No it's not exactly like the one you've created here, but it's an offshoot of a conversation that was started in the one you linked to and could've easily been spoken of there.

As for your need compulsion to explain what is and isn't an important topic, that's completely subjective. In my opinion this topic is one of the lesser important things needed to be discussed. Clearly you don't think so, but I don't gravitate toward telling people to stop saying something like you have here.

GODZILLAFAN1995 just to tell you, my topic here was not EXACTLY like the other one, so no i dont consider this discussion a direct copy from the other one, if thats what you were saying

Yeah I'm 95% sure Akagi is right.

I remember reading an article where they talked about cast calling for extras, and shot the scene with people running in front of well known restaurants and stores which are part of a recognizable beachside shopping plaza. 

The people interviewed in the article talked about how pride of having their stores and things included in the film. 

It's going to be hard to include those shots and then try and pretend it's another, less commercialized location

MADISON

Ok now first of all:  yes toho Godzilla movies are cheesy

But second:  isnt that why Godzilla's being rebooted?

Yes, and of course theyd never gave the reason of Godzilla movies being too cheesy and childish to say thats why theyre rebooting it, but they dont have to.  I already know theyre rebooting Godzilla because the movies are too cheesy, wouldnt u want to reboot it as well?

Ok now as for the toho monsters, they can be rebooted too.  Ur saying as the Godzilla movies were cheesy due to the toho monsters?  No, that is not correct.  Godzilla himself was part of it too? But importantly its TOHO that made those movies too immature and stuff.

So stop saying that putting a toho monster in the film will bring back the cheesyness and childness, anything can be rebooted to better, and thats exactly what Legendary can do if they have a hold of any toho monsters

What I would love to see (PURE SPECULATION AHEAD) is if Godzilla appears in 1954, and then disappears. There is a cover-up/people think he's dead/never knew it happened. 

But something he leaves behind, like radioactive particles, or regenerative tissue, or something like this is found by Dr. Serizawa (Ken Watanbe). Then Serizawa, using these Godzilla remnants either acidentally creates the MUTO's, or creates the technology/lays the foundation for the MUTO's to be born. 

The MUTO organization then takes this technology from Serizawa (against his wishes), and runs wild with it, tampering with it. A guilt ridden Serizawa goes into hiding, while the arrogant MUTO organization blunderingly unleashes the MUTO monsters on mankind. 

Then Godzilla returns!!!

Having studied Godzilla closely an older Serizawa (Akira Takarada) emerges and admits all this Cranston's character in order to redeem himself, and share vital information for how Godzilla may be defeated/driven away. 

I think, if it played out like that, all of young Serisawa's scenes would all be told via flashback to Cranston, after Godzilla and the MUTO monsters have emerged in the present. 

I'm sure the second trailer has been assembled and has been ready for a long time. I mean, let's face it, it doesn't take more than a week (maybe even a day) to cut up n' splice a trailer from even an incomplete movie. 

Godzilla finished filming before Comic-Con last summer. The trailers are in all liklihood ready to go. It's just a matter of when they will release them. 

I've never held my breath on any of these February dates. Those all seem more like wishful thinking to me than anything else. My bet is on March 2nd-7th (Tuesday is a common trailer release day, so anytime between that Tuesday, and the release of 300 is a solid bet). 

If we get the trailer sooner than that, GREAT!!!! I will love watching it! I'm not just getting my hopes up, because all the 'sources' on these February claims seem fishy to me. 

I agree, a longer scene of the airport scene showing more of wats going on there

GODZILLAFAN1995 hahaha yes i do know them, and dont worry about what you said.

why are you calling godzilla from G x MG godzilla 2000, and then calling kiryu a clone of godzilla 2000

1. GxMG and SOS has no connection with godzilla 2000

2. Kiryu is made of the bones and DNA of the ORIGINAL 1954 godzilla.

The sentimental person inside me wants to say Gigan. I simply like Gigan way more as a monster than Kiryu/MechaGodzilla. 

However, if I'm being objective, Kiryu would win. He has way more ranged weaponry, which would allow him to implement an effective kiting strategy. 

Furthermore, if we use their respective battles with Godzilla as reference points, Kiryu overall has been a much tougher opponent vs Godzilla than Gigan has been, implying that Kiryu/Mechagodzilla is higher up on the monster food chain.

I would have to say Kiryu.

2 REASONS WHY

#1: Remember in Godzilla against Mechagodzilla, Kiryu had the Absolute Zero Cannon, which I believe, almost killed Godzilla 2000 twice in the movie. I believe the cannon freezes objects and turns into a snow-like dust.

#2: Also in Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, Kiryu is a clone of Godzilla 2000.

I guess i wouldnt mind if theres no trailer next week, cuz really if u think about it, its too early for a second trailer for this movie.

Cuz what other movies had their second trailer to be released almost EXACTLY a month after the first? Not any for as far as i remembered, i only remember second trailers to be released like 2 or 3 months later.

Um, guys, why don't you discuss Kyero or whoever on a different thread?

Regarding the topic, the anticipation for something to happen is killing me, but I'm not dead yet! ;)

Yeah, this movie has to be VERY cost efficient with its marketing if it's going to be successful. As a general rule of thumb, a movie has to make 1.5x its production budget to break even. It usually has to make 2x its production budget to warrant a sequel (there are exceptions, but that's a decent guideline)

Godzilla 2014 in particular, will probably have to make slightly more than the 2x mark to get a sequel simply because TOHO will be getting a huge slice of the Japanese International profits, combined with Godzilla only being able to demand a 90%-75% theater cut for ONE WEEK of it's release in the U.S. (The X-Men movie will probably leverage down Legendary's cut on Godzilla to 66%-50% after that)

Long story short, even with merchandise and DVD sales to offset a weaker theater cut, Godzilla really can't afford to splurge on marketing if it's going to make money. Standard marketing budget formula, says that Godzilla has a reasonable marketing budget of $40-$60 million total if the production budget for the film is $160 million.

They can't go off and spend 10% of that on a Super Bowl ad. They just can't. If this movie was a surefire slam dunk, like The Hobbit, of the Phantom Menace (before everyone knew it was crap)...sure. But this movie is on the borderline of being profitable, so the marketing can't be lavish. 

I mean, they NEED to market this movie. It won't make money without marketing. But it can't be risky or expensive marketing. Super Bowl marketing is risky, and should only be done by movies who can afford the loss if it doesn't pay off. Godzilla simply isn't that movie. It must be marketed through more sure-fire and cheaper strategies.

lol

i'm sure what we get this month and next is a teaser trailer then the offical trailer (the big main movie trailer) will be in april.

EDIT: i'm sure what we get a teaser trailer this month OR next month, then the OFFICAL trailer (the big main movie trailer) will be in april. it will most likely be next month with the OFFICAL trailer being start of-mid april

no need to talk to gman like that, you even mention the forum that he was talking about here.

We are getting a trailer, and we're getting it soon. That's all I know.

COOLGODZILLA1234 dont worry bro, i wasnt steaming up or freakin out, just ignore the way i wrote my thing thats all, i was just highlighting the important things

The airport scene perhaps?

GMAN2887

I honestly dont remember any other thread that's about this topic, and what hell do u expect for a so-called new discussion? 

Yes i believe there are tons more different things we can talk about, but u wanna know the problem?  The topics that are going on right now are the more important, interesting, and even more concerning things to be discussed.

U want a discussion of something different like "What do you think Godzilla's ASS is gonna look like? And how big?" then sure, go for it, but thats not our concern.

Not saying youll do that, but why cant we ALL just be friendly on this website huh?  And yes ik i wasnt being friendly right now but ill definitely have to go Dick/Asshole mode when someone's being a smartass or dumbass.

If there will be a Toho monster (i'm not saying there will be or not) I would absolutely die if I saw Orga in the film!

Yeah, Legendary has NO good reason to put TOHO Monsters in this movie. Not only would would it make the more movie more expensive like Demplex mentioned, but it wouldn't gain them anything. 

The fallacy of your first statement is precisely why putting in TOHO Monsters would be a bad move for Legendary: The 98 Emmerich Godzilla is NOT what MOST people think of when they think of an 'American' Godzilla. In fact, MOST people do not distinguish between an 'American' Godzilla or any other kind. That's mostly something only us G-Fans do.

When MOST people think of Godzilla, it's A: Not positive, and B: they are usually thinking of the Showa/Hesei movies where a cheesy rubber suit lizard went all Power Rangers on a TOHO monster. 

I know Legendary says they want to make this movie similar to the original Godzilla, but it's a fine line. They also need to make sure people don't associate this movie with the cheesy older films if they want the general public to show up. In order to do that, they need to leave TOHO monsters out of it.

Sure, SOME of us G-Fans would like it if a TOHO monster made it in, but not all of us. And we only count for probably $20 million at the U.S. Box Office. Assuming this movie makes between $100-240 million Internationally (a reasonable assumption I think),

That means this movie still needs to make between $80-220 million at the U.S. Box Office to warrant a sequel. This movie is going to appeal to us almost by default by the nature of the fact that it exists. But where it's going to make it's money is by getting everyone else on board.

To do that.....people have to take it seriously....which means disassociating it from both the 98 American film AND Toho's other movies.....this movie really does have to be it's own unique thing to be successful. So yeah, including TOHO monsters is not just unlikely, it would actually HURT the movie overall if it happened in my opinion.

thats 3 smart-asses in this forum (altoght one of them hasn't been active lately) 1. Kyero 2. Durp004 (personal experience) 3. HANNIBALBARCA